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Old 03-15-2005, 06:35 AM   #1
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Post How To Install Flatline

The presentation includes:
Pictures and detailed descriptions of how to install, collaborate, and maintain a flatline barrel for the tippmann 98/98 custom, and possibly soon to be pro E which has the same basic frame design and may take the same flatline as the 98. (also it is the same flatline that was on a limited supply of wgp cockers back in the day)

THe Presentation comes in one version now: Flash

*note* everything in this presentation is an opinion, i am not a tippmann tech, I have just been working with flatlines since they first came out and have repaired and installed countless flatlines.

Special thanks go to Greedy for web hosting the original version, and itchy201 for hosting the 05 version in 05

And Coenen for stickying this, it wouldn't get far without a good mod, thanks again.

*Now in 2007 versioney goodness*
And without further a do:
http://www.zshare.net/flash/2012736b5103d3/



For other general info on the flatline check out my Review
it is the second highest rated flatline review on this site so it must be worth something.
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:57 AM   #2
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wow thats really informative!! i wish i had that when i was installing my old flatline.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:17 AM   #3
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:46 AM   #4
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Cool, I think I was first to see this. Im glad you changed a few things. Now it is better than the original. Here are a few more. I dont know if it is too late or not.

Collaborate=Calibrate Maybe Im wrong here.
Boar=bore
Equalizer=flash suppressor

Very nice though. Hopefully it is put right with the all of the important commentary about velocity, paint, etc.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:59 PM   #5
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First Stan sorry about calling you a ladie in the sniping thread
how do you stop a flatline from breaking alot of balls and keepin the paint flying straight
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Old 03-22-2005, 04:06 PM   #6
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did you watch the presentation? it should explain that.
for any other info on the flatline ask me here or pm me.
wow im like turning into the pbr flatline guru
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:26 PM   #7
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umm when i press either link for the presentation it says page can not be displayed. But when you just did the presentation i was able to watch the media player one.
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Old 04-02-2005, 04:35 AM   #8
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Something must have gone wrong with the hosting, i will talk to greedy
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:02 PM   #9
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That was a great flatline review, hitman. But I you said you didn't understand how the flatline is a gas hog. Well technically it can be. Here's why:

The backspin induced on the ball sucks up some energy. So lets say we had a regular barrel vs. a flatline both chronoed at 270fps. (I think thats max. for the flatty). Holding both guns level and straight of course the flatty will go farther. The energy in the form of backspin induced lift that allowed the ball to do this sucked up some energy. This means you'll have to turn the velocity screw higher to match the velocity of other regular barrel. If you put the regular barrel on the gun with the flatline the ball would go much faster (but not as far as the flatline). But I'd hazard a guess that you'd waste alot more gas cranking up the velocity and pointing skyward with a regular barrel to even try to reach 200+ feet. So yes, the flatline does waste gas comparitivly at any distance the regular barrel can reach whilst being held paralell to the ground. But once the regular barrel has to be pointed up,and wasting distance/energy in arch height, the flatline should actually be slightly more efficient.
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:13 PM   #10
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Flatline is about 16" long. the roughness of the inside will cause a bit more friction, but not anything noticeable for shot count as the same velocity (280's is optimal) would have been used with a normal 16". you will never see a dramatic change as mentioned in other reviews (which was my initial point) i do admire the thought you put into your post though, flyboy22

and of course from the stock barrel there will be a difference, as with another barrel of the same length. the stock barrel is almost half the size. giving you about 20-30 shots per tank more, but i was comparing to barrels of the same length.
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:19 PM   #11
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links dont work anymore.....
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:01 PM   #12
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Links fixed, got rid of PPT in favor of just the Flash.

I'll be cleaning out the spam this weekend as well.
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:14 AM   #13
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hi umm in the flash thing it doesnt mention at all how to remove the sight,? thats the main part that bothers me
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Old 05-07-2005, 10:54 AM   #14
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if you are talking about the back sight then u take apart the gun and take it out, colonel. now my question. I got my flatty a month ago and i see the part where it says to aline the equalizers aka porting. Well on my gun the equalizers are glued on from the factory , and i think they are not perfectly alined they are off too the side a bit. Will this affect the accuacy?
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Old 05-07-2005, 02:07 PM   #15
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I asked him the same thing when he emailed me the presentation before it was stickied. He told me yes it will affect accuracy. Since then I have found out that old 98 flatlines had the suppressor(equalizer) pressed on, but newer ones are actually tac welded on.
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:10 PM   #16
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yes, it will affect accuracy.

do you have a newer flatline as ghille said?

imo, worst idea ever for 98 flatlines to attach the equalizer to the barrel, you get morons at the factory attaching them in more positions than a corner girl.

try to get it off, if the portings are to one side then your gun will favor that side in a shot pattern.

someone should call up tippmann and say hey you guys are messing up the flatlines by attaching the portings crooked, if you are going to attach them at least get it right!.
(in theory it should help and make installation quicker but in theory we have somebody who knows what they are doing)


and about the sight (assuming it is the rear sight) just unscrew the screw in the back (that attaches the shroud to the tippmanns rear sight) and pull that bugger out of there.


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Old 05-07-2005, 09:18 PM   #17
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yes it is a newer flatline it was like a glued on there from the factory(i think). i tried to pull it off but it was pretty hard stuck on and i dont want to ruin it or anything soo.................... i dont know what to do, i dont want to have bad accuarcy or anything, its not off by much though. right about now the only good thing is the price and the range but i want accuarcy and i know i can get that out of my flatty. ps i got the flatty 100 dollars off thats why i like the price.

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Old 05-08-2005, 06:01 AM   #18
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OK do everything else in the presentation minus the equalizer part and test your flatline out and see if the accuracy is acceptable, if not try to twist it off, as far as i know the new ones are only glued on not welded.

if you are to afraid to twist it off call tippmann or email them and ask them if they could take it off or give you a new one and go from there.(or at least ask them what they use to bond it on to know if you can take it off)
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:45 PM   #19
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*edit* I was donated a new flatline for experimentation and the equalizer seems to be held on by lock-tight, And sure enough its on crooked, Now note that even if the equalizer is lined up with the barrel if you are playing with the shroud it still may be shooting crooked. therefore it is best to adjust your equalizer to your shroud and not your barrel if you are using it.
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:49 PM   #20
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just a little interesting bit of information

I bought my flatline (98) about a month ago, and i could easilly remove the equalizer from the barrel. There was some sort of goop on it (might have been loctite), but i required no effort at all to pull off.

Maybe Tippmann has gone back to the old way of doing it? Or maybe I got lucky
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