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Old 12-20-2004, 05:35 PM   #1
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Timmy vs. Shocker

which gun is better?
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Old 12-20-2004, 05:37 PM   #2
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One word: preference

I would take the timmy, but thats just me. Smart parts guns aren't all that great IMO
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:13 PM   #3
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High end timmy > Shocker
Low end timmy < Shocker

If you spend over 1200$ on a timmy, its better than most shockers, rule of thumb.
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i've never heard of an STD LPR. is it just a regular smartparts lpr with herpes?
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Freak Factory Impulse (Freak Barrel, Dye Stickies & Maxflo Tank)
Automag 68 Classic (Old Style All-American Barrel and Air America Raptor Tank)
Minicocker (Progressive, J&J Ceramic & Oldschool Nitroduck Tank)
P68 Stock Class (Ball count slots, dropout co2 slot, honed barrel)
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Halo B, Egg II, 2x Pre-BE Revvy, Profiler, Invision, Spectra, Dye/Proto everything. I have enough stuff to have 3 players ready to play... Too lazy to take pictures to sell stuff...
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Old 12-20-2004, 08:51 PM   #4
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I'd take any non-classic timmy with WAS/FRENZY/some other sweet board over a shocker. Timmies are much more efficient stock, more reliable in general, have better regs and better eyes, and are backed by a better company. I also like the clamshell frame and trigger on timmies. And 2k4 timmies are actually a bit lighter than shockers. Of course they are bigger and the regs are a bit intimidating to clean at first.

Shockers on the oter hand are smaller, lighter than pre 2k4 timmies (I think their lighter than empire timmies also), generally cheaper, and have a nice stock barrel, but they're gas hogs, not the greatest quality, and the vertical maxflo could use some work.
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:08 PM   #5
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Timmahs lets see.. Where do we start. Bareley ever work.. When they work they're jsut fantastic.. Timmys.. Let see everybody has em.. Non original..

Shockers lets see. Light. Faster than all ****.. Easy to mod. Easy to maintian and never break you do the math
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:38 PM   #6
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Timmys are much more reliable than Shockers. The weight is close to the same, the shocker is a bit smaller, the timmy is more efficient. Timmys are much faster unless you use an aftermarker board on your shocker. Timmys are better out of the box, also.
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i've never heard of an STD LPR. is it just a regular smartparts lpr with herpes?
Markers:
Freak Factory Impulse (Freak Barrel, Dye Stickies & Maxflo Tank)
Automag 68 Classic (Old Style All-American Barrel and Air America Raptor Tank)
Minicocker (Progressive, J&J Ceramic & Oldschool Nitroduck Tank)
P68 Stock Class (Ball count slots, dropout co2 slot, honed barrel)
Stuff:
Halo B, Egg II, 2x Pre-BE Revvy, Profiler, Invision, Spectra, Dye/Proto everything. I have enough stuff to have 3 players ready to play... Too lazy to take pictures to sell stuff...
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Old 01-12-2005, 02:51 PM   #7
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Dude if you buy a timmy out of the box you allway have problems with them.. You allways have to mod the board..

Lemme Break it down from experiance:
Shockers > Timmys
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:30 PM   #8
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Timmys need one or two parts out of the box, which costs a pricetag of around 40-50$. Stock Frenzy boards are great, unless you are somehow an exception to the human race and can pull beyond what is known as the humanly possible range. A vision shocker out of the box will need quite a few upgrades to compare to an Alias, but will function well out of the box.

I have shot both markers quite a few times, and I can vouch for timmies. My friend, his team, his dad, and his dad's team are avid timmy owners. They all own 1-3 timmys each, and only one of the Timmys had a problem out of the box. Keep in mind that they all have completely different Timmies every few months, so there must have been well over a hundred total that they've owned and sold. The reg was faulty on the one that didn't work, so they sent it back to Bob long and grabbed a new one to play with. They've had a few others not work, but they were bought used, and were easy fixes. Between them, two of them own shockers. I've shot TONS of timmies and about 4 shockers total. While they weren't mad upped, there were no doubts that the timmies were better.

They're both good markers, however.

And no, I'm not bashing you by replying to your posts. It's just that you've posted twice now that "The dm4 is a knockoff of the Matrix", while it is a Matrix, and "The proto matrix is just a dm4 and is a knockoff of a dm4". What you don't get is that Proto is owned by DYE, and DM means "DYE MATRIX". They are matrixes with cool milling, not knockoffs. If you want a knockoff, look at something like a spyder clone or a Pimp/etc...
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i've never heard of an STD LPR. is it just a regular smartparts lpr with herpes?
Markers:
Freak Factory Impulse (Freak Barrel, Dye Stickies & Maxflo Tank)
Automag 68 Classic (Old Style All-American Barrel and Air America Raptor Tank)
Minicocker (Progressive, J&J Ceramic & Oldschool Nitroduck Tank)
P68 Stock Class (Ball count slots, dropout co2 slot, honed barrel)
Stuff:
Halo B, Egg II, 2x Pre-BE Revvy, Profiler, Invision, Spectra, Dye/Proto everything. I have enough stuff to have 3 players ready to play... Too lazy to take pictures to sell stuff...
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:45 PM   #9
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i hate the stareo type all the n00bs give out about, o that kids gun is better than mine his dad must be rich.

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Evolve V2
carbon fiber trigger
max flo reg
toxic orange asa reg adaptory
15 degree NDZ reg adaptor
freak back with 3 inserts
freak front
dye sticky grips
low rise clampign feedneck
Flipped n Internally modded
Programmed and rewired board Reads each pull at 180,000 times a second
red shockteck rail
black shockteck on/off
Toxic Snatch grip

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Old 01-12-2005, 04:36 PM   #10
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Old 01-12-2005, 05:50 PM   #11
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Dude if you buy a timmy out of the box you allway have problems with them.. You allways have to mod the board..

Lemme Break it down from experiance:
Shockers > Timmys
Huh? What world are you living in? Intimidators have come stock with a WAS or Frenzy board for the last 24 months or so now. There's no modifications needed. I've owned four Intimidators and after lubing them after buying, I really can't speak of any major issues. I'm not going to get into a debate on the quality control issues of Shockers (or lack of quality control) but I can safely say that the Intimidator is one of the top two or three markers on the market right now. They're easy to maintain, all come with eyes, are extremely efficient on air and are upgradable and retrofittable to previous versions and they all RIP. All this stock.

Incidentally Bob Long's customer service is up there among the top in the industry. If something goes wrong in an Intimidator they stand behind it.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:36 PM   #12
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Old 01-13-2005, 06:06 PM   #13
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timmys have a bad track record with me and SP guns are always very easy to fix and take care of, especially the shocker. not to many probroblems with them now that the bugs have been worked out. a shocker and a bolt kit is what i would get.
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Old 01-13-2005, 06:57 PM   #14
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Timmy without a question.

Shooting a timmy feels like finding $100 bill.
Shooting a shocker feels like beating a metal pipe on a rock.

I know from experience, I own both.

Shockers don't work in cold weather, have a crappy switch, are terrible gas hogs unless you lube them before every game. The eye system is very outdated, and you chop, and get bolt stick.
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Old 01-16-2005, 01:38 PM   #15
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THE TIMMY


im a big fan of the timmy even thogh i have a knock of brand i must say it is beautiful shooting i took my gun right out of the box and started to rip

i was goin to buy a shocker and talked to many wise people and bowroed a shocker for a while and had lots of times ware first shot drop happend and you had to put just the right amount of lube on it or else it wouldent work to eliminate the first shot drop you have to get a HE bolt or a tadoo borde both lots of money
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:22 PM   #16
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timmy :top:
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Old 01-16-2005, 06:52 PM   #17
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Timmy easily takes it. Too many little problems with the shocker.
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:37 PM   #18
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Timmy easily takes it. Too many GIANT PROBLEMS THAT COST $100 TO FIX with the shocker.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:07 PM   #19
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Meh W/e he can go thru the trouble of a timmy
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i hate the stareo type all the n00bs give out about, o that kids gun is better than mine his dad must be rich.

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03 Vision Shocker
Evolve V2
carbon fiber trigger
max flo reg
toxic orange asa reg adaptory
15 degree NDZ reg adaptor
freak back with 3 inserts
freak front
dye sticky grips
low rise clampign feedneck
Flipped n Internally modded
Programmed and rewired board Reads each pull at 180,000 times a second
red shockteck rail
black shockteck on/off
Toxic Snatch grip
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:10 PM   #20
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Meh W/e he can go thru the trouble of a timmy
I think its quite the opposite.
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i've never heard of an STD LPR. is it just a regular smartparts lpr with herpes?
Markers:
Freak Factory Impulse (Freak Barrel, Dye Stickies & Maxflo Tank)
Automag 68 Classic (Old Style All-American Barrel and Air America Raptor Tank)
Minicocker (Progressive, J&J Ceramic & Oldschool Nitroduck Tank)
P68 Stock Class (Ball count slots, dropout co2 slot, honed barrel)
Stuff:
Halo B, Egg II, 2x Pre-BE Revvy, Profiler, Invision, Spectra, Dye/Proto everything. I have enough stuff to have 3 players ready to play... Too lazy to take pictures to sell stuff...
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