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Old 05-21-2005, 09:13 AM   #1
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lubing and cleaning valves

most people here don't know how to lube there marker correctly and have never cleaned there valve. they are basically the only things you have to do to maintain your marker besides cleaning it after gameplay.

first lets talk about lubing. now you do not want to use oil. you want to use DOW33. why? because it protects your bolt and hammer from scratches unlike oil, it creates a better seal, and oil causes rings 2 expand witch makes more problems and can destroy the marker to worked so hard to pay for. i will go threw the steps to properly lube your marker.


1st get some DOW33. you can get this anywhere



2nd take out your internals





3rd take out the pin



4th remove old DOW33 with a cotton towel. paper towels and newspapers will scratch the bolt and hammer.





should look like this when done


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Old 05-21-2005, 09:22 AM   #2
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5th take a few dabs of DOW33 and put a thin layer on the hammer and bolt. to much will make it gunch up and to little will allow it to scratch and slow it down.




should look like this when done



6th place the bolt on the rod, line the bolt hole up with therod slit and put the pin in.





7th put the bolt pin in the hammer hole



8th put the internals back in

first pull the sear release







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Old 05-21-2005, 09:28 AM   #3
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Yes, but try playing in cold weather using dow33, you will quickly find out how much fun it is to take your gun apart and ask your friend for some pmi gun oil and a rag to wipe off the dow33
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Old 05-21-2005, 09:29 AM   #4
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time for valves. valves normally aren't a problem but after a few months of hard use they start to get gunch on them. cleaning them is easy and it is hard to mess up. basically what you do is take out the internals and volumizer. so u can see in each side.









then you take of the trigger and there is a bronze colored disc with is Flathead slit. take a Flathead and start unscrewing it. the disc is a cylinder shaped screw. take it all the way out and knock out the valve with a squeegee. take it out and clean it with a cotton cloth. put it back in and alight the valve hole with the body hole and put the screw back in. (not as hard as it may look when doing it) then put the trigger back on and the internals along with the volumizer.
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Old 05-21-2005, 09:33 AM   #5
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Yes, but try playing in cold weather using dow33, you will quickly find out how much fun it is to take your gun apart and ask your friend for some pmi gun oil and a rag to wipe off the dow33
i use dow33 in 10* weather in the rain and it worked fine.
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:26 PM   #6
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Regular paintball gun oil won't swell the o-rings anymore than Dow 33. In fact, Dow 33 should swell them more.
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Old 05-21-2005, 09:09 PM   #7
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dow works very well on my evo and my 2 blackmaxxes. the rings stay perfect and with oil the rings went bad. and the techs at my field said dow was better and so did a few guys at PMI.
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:45 PM   #8
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err... gold cup oil works well for orings and internals. another thing you can do(and should do) to oil the internals is to put oil into your ASA and dry fire your gun(without the barrel so oil doesnt get on the inside) about 25 times.

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err... gold cup oil works well for orings and internals. another thing you can do(and should do) to oil the internals is to put oil into your ASA and dry fire your gun(without the barrel so oil doesnt get on the inside) about 25 times.

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i have seen ppl do that and it works fine on mech blowbacks. thats the old school way. if u have an electro i would highly recommend the dow though. and if u use a delrin bolt it is a must. and the DOW is better at high rof during long periods of time. just try it guys.
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Yeah, since delrin really needs lube. If anything, grease would just cause more friction. Oil is a little less viscous.
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:53 PM   #11
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Ya... derlin doesnt need lube. That would be one of the sales pitches for it... But.. The old skool way of oiling internals is tried tested and true, thats why I do it. Dow can get pretty gunky after a long hot day diving around and stuff, especially with guns with the open bolt in the back.
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Old 03-02-2006, 05:48 PM   #12
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So which is better, the dow33 or regular pmi oil, for my setup. I use only co2. And is shocker lube the only type of dow33......also I thought that you weren't supposed to lube up delrin bolts because they were "self lubricating" enough?...thanks for your time
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Yes, but try playing in cold weather using dow33, you will quickly find out how much fun it is to take your gun apart and ask your friend for some pmi gun oil and a rag to wipe off the dow33
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Regular paintball gun oil won't swell the o-rings anymore than Dow 33. In fact, Dow 33 should swell them more.
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Ya... derlin doesnt need lube. That would be one of the sales pitches for it... But.. The old skool way of oiling internals is tried tested and true, thats why I do it. Dow can get pretty gunky after a long hot day diving around and stuff, especially with guns with the open bolt in the back.
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Dow 33 (aka. Molykote 33 medim) is an industrial low-temperature bearing lubricant. I've transcribed the information below.

Speciality lubricants
Molykote(R) 33 medium
silicon grease
Lubricaitng grease for metal/metal, metal/plastic combinations involving slow to medium-fast movements and light load, especially over a wide range of temperatures.

Features:
High oxidation resistance
Wide service temperature (-73ºC to 180ºC)
Good low-temperature performance
Compatable with many plastics
Water resistant
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IMO oil works best for blowbacks, but for EP guns you need to use dow33 or a similar grease
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