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Old 12-15-2001, 05:12 AM   #41
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yes, i also suggest keeping the rebel, and most other people will tell you the same thing. your wife's in for a suprise when you start spending a couple hundred bucks a month to go play .

but my friend had a samuri (Brass Eagle) and it chopped balls like crazy, so he bought a raptor(brass eagle) that was okay until he started to shoot it for prolonged periods of time, also it was very very shiny and looked like a brick so he returned it (we play in the woods), and now he has a spyder 1, which he loves alot, he's put a new expansion chamber on it and is planning on getting a new barrel soon.

so i would say stay with the rebel, because you can get lots of cool stuff for it and no one will bash you for having a BE.
although i personally don't bash anyone no matter what gun they have, its the player that makes the gun.

oh and as for bps, the raptor is CAPABLE read* Capable of cycling 10 balls per second, but in reality the trigger pull is too hard to achieve any more than 4. while the rebel on the other hand, is known as having the shortest trigger pull of the low end blowbacks. 6 bps is what anyone can shoot with the rebel, i've been clocked pulling 8 (without a trigger job )



also, anyone else have a deluxe out there, and if they do, how hard is it to take out the pins in your trigger frame, for me its impossible, i think the only way to do it would be to put it in a clamp and beat it out with a chunk of titanium. when i try to use nails or allen wrenchs they just get bent out of shape.

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Old 12-15-2001, 07:13 AM   #42
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i say go with the rebel because brass eagle has the worst reputation of all paintball products. you can get a j&j or CP barrel for about $50, shocktech drop forward about $35, 6 stage expansion chamber with fittings for like $40. After that you will have a nice setup. I used to have a Rebel and I had a 12" Teardrop on it. It shot pretty well but sometimes it did mess up. It was never hard to fix it though. Now I have my IMPY!..... I say if you have to pick between the 2, go for rebel.
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Old 12-15-2001, 07:27 AM   #43
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Thanks...

Thanks for the advise. After all that I have read over the net I am going to keep both guns, but make the Rebel my main weapon. I am thinking of trading my Rebel in for a Rebel LE. Would that be a good choice?

Do the barrels that fit the Rebel fit the Rebel LE? I figured I could save some money by buying a gun that came with an expansion chamber and bottomline, instead of buying them seperate. Plus if I go with the LE I won't have to mod my gun to a rear cocker.

I was looking at buying a 6 level expansion chamber from 888paintball.com, along with a terminator barrel, but they don't sell a bottomline kit that I saw there. It looks like they just sell the parts to make a bottom line.

Should I upgrade my Rebel or get a Rebel LE and just buy a new barrel?

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Old 12-15-2001, 08:16 AM   #44
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yeah both the rebel and rebel LE have spyder threads, so they can take the same barrels.

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Old 12-15-2001, 11:40 AM   #45
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My friend has a rebel and it always seems to act up evertime we go to play. It will sputter every 5 shots even on a full tank in addition to chopping paint. Sometimes it won't even recock. My friends cousin got a rebel and it did the same thing. They brought thier rebels into the shop and they say the people there fixed them, and that they worked fine in the shop, but everytime we go to play thier rebels are always screwing up. Can anybody tell me what the problem is? Are all rebels like this? And have other players encounterd similar problems? Please excuse my ignorance I'm used to tippmanns.
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Old 12-15-2001, 02:34 PM   #46
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Oh you shoot Tippmanns j/k, not all Rebels are like that, just some, sounds like a sear/trigger related problem. Oh and what kind of Rebels do they have.
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Old 12-15-2001, 04:02 PM   #47
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My friend and his cousin both have normal rebels with bottomlines. No other upgrades.
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Old 12-15-2001, 09:12 PM   #48
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Hmm... Chopping with regulars and BLs dont usually happen so, make sure the feed plug is at the right place, and keep the gun oiled and the sear greased.
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Old 12-16-2001, 04:31 AM   #49
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Make sure you are using the right oil. double check and make sure you arent lubing your gun with DOW33. Use Gold Cup. My feild owner coated my rebels bolt with dow and it was screwing up. I dont have my rebel anymore.
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Old 01-28-2002, 02:24 AM   #50
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Does anyone have anymore questions?
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Old 01-28-2002, 09:59 AM   #51
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Impy, I'm thinking about selling my Dark Angel 2001, I was wondering, would a Rebel make a good replacement marker?
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Old 01-28-2002, 06:13 PM   #52
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Old 01-29-2002, 04:04 PM   #53
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Ebon, im gunna bunker yo *****! Im gunna call up the guy I sold my rebel to and bunker you with that! pahaha!
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Old 01-31-2002, 05:43 AM   #54
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Hey, I was wondering is there a speacial type of oil you need to use for your paintball gun/rebel? Also could you tell me a little about the stock barrel because i ordered a gun and it hasnt arrived yet but I would lke to no alittle about it, thanks. Would u recomend an upgrade? Also what oz. CO2 do you use?



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Old 01-31-2002, 07:08 AM   #55
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One More thing. Could you please explain the best way to oil it and the most effecient way please? Thanks


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Old 01-31-2002, 10:18 AM   #56
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The stock barrel is bad, better than a stock spyder/pirahna but still bad. I have two for mine, a Lapco Bigshot and a 32* Nightstix, the Nightstix is quieter and cheaper, the Bigshot though shots more accurate but it's a lot louder, I don't mind, I'm not a sound freak or anything. A friend has the 32* Precision 16' it's very nice and quiet but I find it kinda long for MY taste, he just loves it. CP's are nice too.
You can use any oil that won't eat the o-rings and will not thick under cold temperature, I use the good ol' 3-1, $1 for the little tin can It's the one that my gf uses for her sewing machine.
I think the nicest way to lube your gun it's to disamble it and oil part by part, you can put a couple of drops in the asa too, but won't lube the bolt nice (wearing the body more quickly) and if you have the delrin bolt the oil will reach it more easily. I use white lithium for the valve, but that's just me, I like to use white lithium in everything I can.
go to 32ice.com and download the manual of your marker, you will need it. Mine didn't have one, maybe the newer models have.
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1- New barrel
2- X-chamber
3- Nice drop forward (except in the R X it already has one) Psycho ballistics drop is sweet.
4- Delrin bolt

I use a 20onz in my Rebel X, but I will recommend a 16onz (short ones) with an smartparts on/off valve. Shorter tanks help you keep your marker closer to your body, especially with a PB drop forward, it balances to sweetly.
The best thing to get instead of the x-chamber and that you could get a small nitro tank preset 850, if you have the chance to get N2/Nitro fills go that way you won't regret it!
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Old 01-31-2002, 03:28 PM   #57
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Old 02-02-2002, 01:44 PM   #58
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My rebel is shooting SNOW!!!!! I need an expansion chmaber!!! Have any sugestions on them? I need one that will do the job. I dont need top of the line but an ok that will work. I can get a ACI 4 chamber for like 27.95 But its only the chamber it doesnt have the kit. I would like to buy it all at once PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!


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Old 02-02-2002, 02:56 PM   #59
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ThePaintballstore.com sells x-chamber kits
http://www.thepaintballstore.com/aisle30.html
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Old 02-06-2002, 06:48 AM   #60
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Well I do need some help!!! My Pt Xtreme(Which is so awesome!!) has a leak near the valve(The place were the 12 gram is punctured) or at least I think it is near there. But I have oiled the gun, took it all apart and checked all o rings and they were fine! One person told me that I might need to replace a cup seal! If this would help please tell me how if you can!!!! Or do I need a new valve all together???
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