Regarding 3A Products - Page 2

Rotties67 · 03-10-2004, 07:15 AM

I was thinking of buying a 3A tank. But no more. I was wondering why they are always so cheap. Thanks again for the info.

BlueDragonDH · 03-12-2004, 09:31 PM

If you look at the things they bought of ebay alot are for rice crispie squares and caramel brownies

mlk3454 · 03-13-2004, 03:16 AM

as of saturday March 13, 2004 at 7:07am they have 1709 total positives with 1342 unique individuals leaving positives, 16 unique individuals who left negatives, and a whopping 25 positives left from buying recipies. So 1% of all of their positives were left from people they bought recipies from...so they buy personal things with that account, 25 out of 1709 is so minimal it doesn't make any difference. Also, to have 16 negatives out of that many isn't bad either. After buying you have 90 days to leave feedback so that would be plenty of time to test out what was bought. Some people have had good experiences while others have had bad but by looking at the ebay record there are a lot more that have had good.

RagingFuryBlack · 03-30-2004, 03:44 PM

so...how many employees does 3a have?

DaSpEcSter · 03-31-2004, 04:05 AM

I'll tell you all what I've been wondering...
You know that story about how the lady died from the tank coming unscrewed? I wonder if that was a 3a tank! Sounds like their shotty work. If it is, 3a should be ended. Abruptly.

Jaster · 03-31-2004, 06:54 AM

mlk3454, while I agree the record of good and bad may be true, it's the fact that they lied in the first place about their products, they continue to lie now, and do some off the wall things to get ratings up on themselves and their products. They've denied buying recipes/brownies... and have said they don't sell or buy on ebay. Obviously that isn't true and now they have a different story. I've been banned from their site twice for asking question about these claims. I got nothing but BS answers and banned. I was even polite about it. I just wanted to hear from them about the comments being made and give a chance to stand up for themselves. I even tried calling them and asking. I got sworn at and hung up by a guy who wouldn't even tell me his name and said he owned the place. I don't care if they lied once or a million times. They lied, fact. They could make the best products in the world, I still won't buy them.

mlk3454 · 03-31-2004, 07:15 AM

DaSpEcSter - it was a co2 tank, not a hpa tank

Jaster - I am not trying to stick up for their business practices as we all can see there is something up with it as well as other comps in the paintball industry lately...I guess all I have to say about 3A is that all the things that I have gotten from them have been plenty good and have not malfunctioned or broken. Granted I am not a pro tourney player that slams the stuff around 4 days a week but for the 2-3 times a month that I play and have owned 3A stuff for almost a year, I dont have a complaint about its quality.

Jaster · 03-31-2004, 08:59 AM

I've heard about a 50/50 on the actual quality of their stuff. Pretty much the same for everyone I guess, some love it some hate it. Glad your stuff works right. I'm just real big on customer service and company reputation.

ImpulseKid366 · 04-01-2004, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDragonDH
If you look at the things they bought of ebay alot are for rice crispie squares and caramel brownies

Isnt it just recipes?

Shivors · 04-03-2004, 01:07 PM

First I have heard of the bull**** they pulled here at PBReview.com. Seems very lame IMHO.

As far as their gear is concerned...my brother and I use their 68-4500 tanks and have had absolutley no problems. They shipped quickly in my instance.

I just ordered a 4+3 pack and will post how that goes. Got it for 14 bucks.... (shrug)

After reviewing this thread I will definately be looking for shady behaviour.

PB0900 · 04-03-2004, 01:51 PM

Is it just me, or do their barrels look like ripoffs of Kapp KXS barrels? I think especially the ones that come on their fockers look like Kapp barrels. Their fockers look like ripoffs of DYE cockers in almost every way. They have similar mill, the back block is cut the same way, and even the jewel is in the same spot. Hmmm...

mlk3454 · 04-03-2004, 06:45 PM

the stuff that happened on pbr was over a year ago so hopefully they got their act together about that, as for the barrels I think they look like a cross between an SP with some spiral porting and a Kapp but the ano style is their own (I personally like solid colors)...the cocker bodies are WDP bodies so they are genuine cockers

PB0900 · 04-03-2004, 07:02 PM

Hmm. Didn't know 3A used WGP bodies. I guess I just assumed they made fockers because of their reputation.

jonezin_nj · 04-05-2004, 06:09 AM

you guys all rock. i'm fairly new to the pb, and i was seriuosly considering a 3a invincible that i had seen on e-bay. there is nothing like explaining to the wife a $100 paypal payment for a pos marker. pbreview rocks.

thanks

smegle5 · 04-05-2004, 02:49 PM

this tread should b stickied

Shivors · 04-05-2004, 06:49 PM

Updating my previous post. I won the auction for the 3A 4+3 harness on the 2nd, paid via paypal, and they sent a tracking number today. Every step was verified via email. <shrug>

Will post again when the pack gets here and I will update as to the quality.

This is the item I won:

EBay Auction

FYI....I run a Jacko 3 pod for my rec ball but needed a larger one for scenario games. (sux balls to have to hump a 1/2 mile or more for paint)

As far as their markers....they look like evey other Spyder clone to me. Nothing beats an original Kingman product!

PB0900 · 04-05-2004, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Shivors
Nothing beats an original Kingman product!

Except a Piranha, but that's just me.

I hate to admit it, but from the pic that does appear to be a pretty nice pack. I'd like to hear how you like it and how it holds up.

jdolla · 04-09-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Jaster
I've heard about a 50/50 on the actual quality of their stuff. Pretty much the same for everyone I guess, some love it some hate it. Glad your stuff works right. I'm just real big on customer service and company reputation.

If you think about it, this is prolly a good reason NOT to buy stuff from them. Sure, it might work out and perform great, but it could just as easily suck. If there is that much of a chance for something to not perform, I wouldn't buy it.

Shivors · 04-09-2004, 12:35 PM

Well...the pack arrived today on time.

Nothing wrong with this pack. Same materials as my Jacko with what looks to be good stitching. The logos are 3D rubber and stand out well. The back of the pack is three layers and has a ton of elastic. The waist band is about 4-5 inches wide and looks to fit up to a 40" belly.

In all honesty the only thing I dont like is that the pod holders dont have elastic like the newer Empire packs. Seeing as I paid $14 + ship, I wont be complaining.

As far as other 3A products I dont know. I have purchased 2 68-4500 tanks and now 2 of these 4+3 packs. Everything went through as advertised with no problems. The only other thing I would consider is a barrel for my backup and a tank cover.(anyone have one to info me on?) . I run a Boomstick on my main and wont be giving that up anytime soon.

As I said before, what they pulled here on PBReview is crap and PBReview is right IMHO to not review their gear. I have had good luck with the gear I have bought and I would buy anything else I might want. (I have been eyeing their tank covers...look tight)

spyder freek · 04-20-2004, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by RagingFuryBlack
so...how many employees does 3a have?

to many?Lol

My Story ...i was going to get the barrel kit for 60 and i was like what could it hurt?....i l8r ran into a kid who let me use his.

WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP....it was what suposedly a ok paint to barrel match and it was breakin balls lefty and right...i would clean it and it would hook and i couldent hit a wall 30 ft away!(wasnt my paint ethier) they make it look flashy so noobs will buy it,,,and unfortunatly its working (not to mention pervs w/ that tank and shirt bs!)