Trilogy Facts - Page 5

Virus_Nyne · 05-05-2005, 12:50 PM

Don't know exactly.

Here's the link http://www.paintballtimes.com/forum/...12666&posts=16

I added it to the Electro part of the first post.

HyMy · 05-09-2005, 01:24 AM

Well, I found this on the Palmer's site. It's an LT Valve for the Autococker Trilogy. So I guess you could now upgrade the valve on Trilogys.

Virus_Nyne · 05-09-2005, 03:44 AM

Wewt, now there's only 1 thing you cannot upgrade on the Trilogy.

Virus_Nyne · 05-09-2005, 04:00 AM

Added 1 picture, 1 video as the last section on the sticky, with credits.

Changed ram information slightly.

Changed valve information slightly.

Changed trigger frame information completely.

Turns out there isn't a different valve on the Sport like I read, but a different spring. Stiffer, lengthier, I don't know. It's just different.

evilfreak · 05-09-2005, 07:04 AM

I slightly adjusted the LPR and Inline regs on my Pro, and it shot great. BUT, yesterday i played a game and it chopped at least once a game. It was not the paint and I was not short-stroking. So i lowered the Inline pressure ever so slightly, and it went down to 260 FPS, so I tried to increase the velocity and nothing happened.
Any Suggestions? Should i send it to Worr Games, take it to a local shop, or try to fix it myself?
PLEASE HELP!

ThaGodfatha · 05-09-2005, 11:10 AM

That is most likely a bad paint/bore match or a bad batch of paint, if ur using CO2 it can cause choppage due to sudden pressure fluctuations.

Virus_Nyne · 05-09-2005, 02:34 PM

Also, try retiming the cocking rod.

VooDooAddict · 05-10-2005, 07:02 PM

Going to be buying a backup marker for my dad soon. (Father's day)

He's just not into the electronic triggers. Been using the same Automag for something like 10 years. His backup spyder kicked the bucket almost 2 seasons ago ... I was thinking a Trilogy Sport or Comp sounds like a fun little marker for him. We both played with Mags through the Cocker/Mag wars of the mid 90's. We always were curious about the cockers, but didn't buy one. I've been reading up on the Trilogy and your sticky here. I hope I'm decently informed at this point, but please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

I’m leaning towards the sport for several reasons

The valve on the Sport is designed with CO2 in mind. This would run almost exclusivly on CO2 for an old school feel (and I've got two 20oz tanks sitting around doing nothing). They are NOT anti-siphoned. I’m not sure that my shop still installs A/S tubes; if they do … I’ll A/S the tanks later.

I was planning on using a good ol' Vertical Expansion chamber in place of the gas through on the sport.

I used to run a MicroMag when I was mildly competitive. So I’ve accumulated a fair number of barrels with Autococker threads. (Even some Carbon Fiber barrels that we helped produce long before Stifi was well known.) Fair number of bore sizes too.

Even have an old Proteam Red dot sight around somewhere.

I guess my main question then really is about the valve in the Comp. You mention that it’s designed to handle both CO2 and HPA. Is it just an all around better valve? Or for CO2 only operation would the Sport’s valve be preferred?

[Even though I'm a Mag and SP Guy ... I have timed 'Cockers and eFockers.]

Secondary question is related to the topic at hand ... but not centered on Trilogies: Any inteligent threads on a comparison between the Trilogy and some of the Mech 'fockers? I'm thinking specificly of the Psycho Ballistics stuff and the System X stuff that can be found new on eBay for under or at $200. Trying to search for "Trilogy vs" hasn't offered the best results.

Thanks for a great sticky... I'm sure it takes time and effort to maintain.

evilfreak · 05-11-2005, 05:24 AM

It sounds like you have done your research

Seeing as how I do not have either of those guns, i'll give it my best shot. If you are trying to run it off Co2, the Sport would probably be better. But, if you were going to A/S at least one of the Co2 tanks, the Comp would probalbly be the better coice. When I got my Pro(basically the same as the Comp, just a couple things added/changed), I ran it on Co2 for a game and it ran like

, It would cycle fine but it would freeze up and the velocity would drop and only shoot like 40 feet. But it was about 50-55* and cloudy outside, keep in mind this was without an a/s tank. Thus the reason I bought an HPA tank.
I dont know what the climate is like where you live, but I would reccomend the Comp ONLY if you could get the Co2 A/S, but i've heard the Sport works fine with any Co2.
PS- If you could aquire one, a macro-line hose kit reduces freezing

Hope this helps

VooDooAddict · 05-11-2005, 12:39 PM

Thanks for the comments on my post, evilfreak.

I've got some spare Macro line and fitting around. I'm just not sure why it would help prevent freazing other then the slightly increased volume.

evilfreak · 05-11-2005, 04:08 PM

From what i've heard it redices freezing because the plastic hose doesn't conduct cold as much as the metal braided hose does. It might just be a marketing gimmick as I have not used macroline with Co2 to tell if there is a difference. Even if it doesn't help with freezing, it kinda looks cool

evilfreak · 05-17-2005, 10:14 AM

I'm happy now. If you look back a little bit i had a post stating that my gun was messed up. well, I got it working again. turns out I was short-stroking due to my drop and not being used to it. well, thanks for you help!

BTW, yes, i an bored.

socomtrilogycom · 05-17-2005, 04:23 PM

when i screw my tank in and turn the on/off on it doesn't do anything. It doesn't make the noise like theirs air in the tank but there is. I took off a the hose connected to the back of the ram and took a shell out of it. I also loosened the ram and 3-way i screwed everything back in and put the hose on and thats when the problem started. Is it out of time? If not what do u think is wroung.

Tasty Squirrel · 05-20-2005, 04:54 PM

don't even think about posting something like that again. got it? -spyderman

Crede777 · 05-20-2005, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tasty Squirrel
don't even think about posting something like that again. got it? -spyderman

Trilogy bashing is sooo March '05.

Virus_Nyne · 05-21-2005, 05:25 AM

I missed it

xtremesnipr223 · 05-21-2005, 03:15 PM

I would advise Tasty Squirrel to not bash respectable guns he hasn't even tried (he owns a ProStock) when he's only been a member for a day.

I've been looking at some of his posts, and he's been doing a lot of bashing that's had to have been edited by the mods (spyderman, hsuve, etc...)

HyMy · 05-24-2005, 05:47 PM

I went to my pro shop today and I saw that they already had the WGP TAK Kits for the Trilogys. They haven't actually tried putting it on a Trilogy, but from what I saw I think you screw something onto the lpr threaded area, and that becomes the adaptor for the solenoid (im guessing here).

And for another interesting note, I also saw the new Worrframe. It looks like the ones on the 05 Superstocks...

Oni Gumo · 05-24-2005, 06:12 PM

I believe it replaces the black ring on the lpr, the one that has the two rings on it for the hoses. One day if I am bored and come up with the extra money, I may E-blade my Trilogy.

HyMy · 05-24-2005, 06:14 PM

I'm planning on doing it, since it's too expensive to switch guns and go electro with that gun. Might as well go electro now. And eblade-ing a Trilogy should be amusing..