Is the new viewloader any good?

[A-5best]

For looks

But in reality me buying one would depend on size and weight, just how much less does the Vlocity weigh? If it is like 3oz or so its not worth buying for me(being that i own a reloader b). I want manufacturers to really create a super light super small fast loader, something like a revvy that feeds 25bps would be great.....I can dream...

[papaintballer15]

Its suppose to be relativly close to the weight of the revvy ,if not the same weight. I also like the toggle switch.

[honda1]

Well I know it is lighter than egg2 so thats not bad. I have a smoke one sitting in my moms closet but I can't open it till Christmas

[equipmentcounts]

Originally Posted by papaintballer15

Its suppose to be relativly close to the weight of the revvy ,if not the same weight. I also like the toggle switch.

a revvy.... are you crazy..... a revvy......
you have so many more internals then a revy.... in a vlocity.....
well by the way how much do those new carbon fiber shells for halos/reloaders weigh...
just so you know this is about the 453245 time i have mentioned it but i don't htink you have picked up on it is the WASed halo has two sensors
it has teh eyse
plus a kind of sound activaiont(evs but i dont want to go into detail)
the work equally
and is your math really that bad?
a stock halo is 99.00 while a vlocity is 135....
so that means you pay 150 for a wased halo....
and a 170 for a wased halo w/ rip
vlocity doesnt have a ripdrive yet soo you gotta think about that
(didnt odyssey patent ripdrive...and let empire use it for a lot of $$)

[Uziel Gal]

While the HALO B is available with or without the Rip Drive, and all Reloader Bs have Rip Drive as standard, it was designed by Odyssey.

I suspect Empire are allowed to use HALO B technology in an exchange for Odyssey using sound activation in the TSA loaders.

[papaintballer15]

ripdrive really isnt necessary. Sure i got the reloader bc of sound activity, bc i know halo's have problems all the times, and i dont like the hopper running when theres no paint in it. Never needed the ripdrive, good added feature incase i did, never had to worry about batteries dieing since i have 12 rechargeables for it.

Just for the fact that the VL is lighter, uses 9 volts,smaller,holds more paint i think its a better buy.

[A-5best]

Trust me rip-drive is a very, very useful tool.

[equipmentcounts]

using 9 volts is actually a weakness you have less better life then 6 aa batteires
yes 9v weigh less however
a bone pack weighs less then 6 alkline aa but more than two 9v but will give you a hella lot better battery life and performance
but still 6aa is has better life and performance
bone>e2>6aa alkline>two 9 volts
and by the way you can also use 9v's on a halo for liek 3-6 bucks

[Uziel Gal]

One of the better 9 volt adapters for the HALO B/Reloader B - Code 242: -

[banderson]

You can slso buy those adapters at Radio Shack for fairly cheap. Just make sure you the right one.

[senghing27]

halo>viewloader...
i don't like the thing at all, i saw it at my proshop and was... ewwwww

[Uziel Gal]

Originally Posted by banderson

You can slso buy those adapters at Radio Shack for fairly cheap. Just make sure you the right one.

Most commercially available adapters place the batteries in series rather than in parallel. Either that or you get three 9 volt battery connectors that are just wired together - this is much neater.

[Uziel Gal]

OK, what with all the arguments breaking out, with little factual information to back them up, I have had to yet again plunk down my hard-earned (by the time these have been shipped to the UK and had 17.5% tax added, $156), and buy the item in question.....

The VLocity arrived yesterday, but there was no-one around to receive it, so I actually got it today (thank heavens that the post office was open on Christmas Eve!)

Empty weight is 412 grams
With two 9 volts on board, weight is 503 grams

Earlier in this thread, the weight was compared to that of a Revolution, so let's deal with that. The empty Revolution weighs 321 grams, and 413 grams with batteries installed.

VLocity dimensions: -

Length = 205mm
Height = 141mm (this does not include the feed neck)
Width = 110mm
Reloading port diameter = 69mm

I have posted the weights of the HALO B elsewhere on this forum, but for comparison, the dimensions of the HALO are as follows - length = 229mm, height = 140mm and width = 98mm, so a smaller target from the front, but a larger target from the side. Fill port diameter is 70mm.

Capacity is *not* as high as advertised. I was able to get 190 balls in to the loader rather than 200. This was with the loader filled front to back, top to bottom, with balls in the neck and the drive cone - there was no space left in the loader at all.

The front of the loader is heavily slanted, more so than on a HALO B. While this should make for better feeding, it also makes it harder to fill the loader to capacity unless tipping it forwards.

There is an external drive shaft projecting from the gear box, and out of the bottom of the loader. This could possibly be used to fit a Rip Drive style attachment.

The drive cone spring seems very stiff (compared to that on a HALO or Reloader B), which may cause problems with very brittle paint. I was unable to ascertain how far the drive cone turns under spring tension, because the tension quickly became too high for the motor/gears to hold, causing the motor to turn and the spring to unwind.

I have experienced one problem so far - the first set of batteries I tried to install were too long for the battery bay, and would not fit! Fortunately, the second type of 9 volt I tried went in.

I have run a few drop tests on the highest of the eight settings, and was getting free fall speeds of around 27bps. However, the highest torque setting may not correspond to the fastest drop speed.

[KAMIKAZE-FREAK]

now thats handy information
got pix?

[papaintballer15]

woot woot, so i was close on the weight of the revvy.

1 point for me.

[Uziel Gal]

This would depend on whether you consider 100 grams to be close.....

As for pictures, the loader looks very much like the prototypes, but what the hell?

You'll have to excuse the lighting, I can never get it right under artificial light in the evenings. If I wasn't spending so much on hoppers, maybe I could afford a better camera!




Side view - you can see how steep the angle at the front of the loader is.


Front view


External drive shaft output


Controls - left = force adjustment push button, centre = on/off toggle switch, right = LED

[papaintballer15]

well, i said that it was the same weigh of the revvy or close. I think someone said it was heavier then a egg. Or something like that, dont remember and not gonna look for it. And so i said its close to the revvy. It definatly is compared to other hoppers

[A-5best]

Originally Posted by papaintballer15

well, i said that it was the same weigh of the revvy or close. I think someone said it was heavier then a egg. Or something like that, dont remember and not gonna look for it. And so i said its close to the revvy. It definatly is compared to other hoppers

No, its is actually heavier than an egg.
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332711

Also it is a full 100 grams heavier than a revvy, and a Reloader B is a mere 40 grams more than it, so in my opinion not much improvement. Also its a 10 ball difference which is now negligable and also it will be hard to fill it to full capacity using pods when the ramp is so steep. Also i would rather have a longer haopper than a wider hopper. All in all with this real factualy information i would jsut stick with my reloader B, also im sorry im all for performance over style but that thing is butt ugly, and it isnt that huge of performance gain.

Also keep in mind the halo weights are not with batteries installed while the vlocity weights are, im aware but still i dont think it is worth it.

Weighing my Reloader B with a good amount of stickers in it, with a 4AA battery pack in it, it weighs 640 grams even. Keep in mind 1oz=28 grams if i remember correctly(♥ pocket ref,) so the Vlocity is a full 4.89 onces lighter, which is pretty significant. About 1/4 of a pound, but put it on a full setup and those 4 ounces disappear, so weight savings arent incredible but decently large.

The sad part is my coppertop duracell AAs, in a 4 battery pack weigh 104 grams or 3.71 ounces, sad i know, but if you really want to save weight you could switch to "the bone" or get a code 242 9v convertor.

[holman21]

20 balls does and can matter... it actually woulda been nice to have an extra 20 balls at my last tourny... we stalemated our first game in semi finals but they shot 4 of our guys and we only got 3 of theirs so we got knocked out. i was the last one and had NO paint and both of them were running up to do me but time ran out after about a minute of them shooting my bunker.. if i had 20 balls i coulda closed it. it does matter. also one of you said something about someing running tape and ur reloading off topic but practice reloading with ur gun up it helps a lot

[equipmentcounts]

it is ten paintballs not twenty

so the vlocity isnt as glorified as VL says it is...