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Old 12-25-2005, 08:17 PM   #1
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Upgrading

I currently own a Diablo Wrath and i am looking to upgrade to something a little better than spring return. Any guns in the 350-500 range? i am considering a Promaster or maybe a used Angel IR3. Or i could just put a t-board in my wrath. Can some1 give me any pointers?
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:27 PM   #2
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if u want to upgrade the wrath, get a t-board, delrin bolt, Delrin ram,and a reg like a CP, and of course compressed air. That is if u dont have any of that stuff. barrel kits are nice too .

If wanting a different gun though, id suggest looking into a pimp, or a highly upgraded used gun.
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:02 PM   #3
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:15 PM   #4
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Promaster or PM5.
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:18 PM   #5
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NEW Pro master, pimp, omen

USED proto ,intimidators, angels, e cockers


me would get proto, pimp, e cocker omen .i would have said pro master but i don't know much about them
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:32 PM   #6
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As mentioned before, delrin your gun up, then add a tboard. If you feel your stock reg isnt holding up, replace it. Barrel kits like the ones from J&J, Empire and Evil are all great options.

I'd be kinda silly to get a promaster since it, and the wrath work basically the same way. Plus with a tboard, you'll blow it away in a speed contest.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:08 PM   #7
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Promaster is uncapped Ironcorps so it wouldn't be blown away in a speed contest. I say used Timmy.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:53 PM   #8
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Tchipped Tboard are uncapped, and that uncapped rate includes 3rd burst and full auto.
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:36 PM   #9
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Actually the promaster and wrath do not work the same. The wrath is spring return with a 2-way noid, kind of like blow forward like a BKO for example and mechanically caps out around o...23 bps with a t-board. The promaster however utilizes a 4-way noid to allow a fully EP fuction. It is lighter and already has all the functions the t-board has minus the burst, and "seems" to be a better quality gun. A used timmy or proto...hmmmm a used timmy wouldnt be much of an upgrade from my Wrath i supoose...and a proto...hmmmm could be an option, but i dont like used stuff....any other ideas?
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:46 PM   #10
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:59 AM   #11
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IMO Save up until you have about 600$ because you could get a more expensive marker, or if you don't you will have some $$ to upgrade.

New:
Ion=280$

Promaster=350$??

Keep your gun and upgrade
-T-board=54.99-59.99 / virtue board=109.99

-Delrin bolt=29.99 around there

-Evil pipe barrel kit= 179.99



If it were me i would just get the ION if i wanted a NEW gun but getting a used gun would probably be a better choice...



Used..EBAY
-Older timmys/cheaper ones (2K5, D2)=around 400$ range

-Newer/more expensive timmys (Alias, Dark, A-bomb etc..)=500$-600$ range(One of your best choices)

-ICD FS7=around the 500$ range

-Proto=around the 500$-600$ range (one of your best choices IMO)

-E2'd cockers=around the 300$-350$ range(one of your best choices IMO)

-PIMP=im not positive but i think around thne 400$ range

-Vision shocker=around 500$ range
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:27 AM   #12
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For the price, pimps are the best bet i'd say. And considering all you'd really have to do to it is put on a clamping feed.
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:05 AM   #13
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I would say

NAME-----------weight/speed/looks/perforance----OVERALL

1.Alias Timmy ----------10/9/10/9=---------9.5
2.Defiant 2-------------9/9/9/8.5=----------8.7
3.Proto 05--------------8.5/8/8/9=---------8.5
4.ICD FS7--------------9/9/7/8=-----------8.3
5.E2 cocker ------------6/8/9/8=-----------7.9
6.Shocker--------------9/8.5/6/8=----------7.8
7.PIMP-----------------6/8/8/7=------------7.5

These are MY opinions you can't yell at me, I usualy don't like timmies but they perform very well.

I'm not biased because i have a E2 cocker. I've held every single one of those.
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:12 AM   #14
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Cockers cost way too much to get working good. Up in the 800 range.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:08 PM   #15
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how does a promaster compare to an NME or a D2?
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:14 PM   #16
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Personally I'd take the D2 over the Pimp, but that's because I don't like the size of the Pimp (one of the biggest electro markers compared to the D2). The Defiant 2 will be atleast $100 more if you are looking at buying new, so it comes down to preference.
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:19 PM   #17
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Cockers cost way too much to get working good. Up in the 800 range.
Thats not true at all( and when i said 300$-400$ i was talking about used cockers).

I bought a used 2k4 prostock with E2, Nexus kit, Freak barrel kit, Halo B, and a 68/4500 carbon fiber wraped tank ALL for 500$ american!!!

I can hit 18 BPS, sure its a bit heavy but its hot, comfy FAST!!! EFFICIENT!!And really nice

If you go on Ebay you'll find up'd cockers for like 300-400$$
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:02 PM   #18
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I would say

NAME-----------weight/speed/looks/perforance----OVERALL

1.Alias Timmy ----------10/9/10/9=---------9.5
2.Defiant 2-------------9/9/9/8.5=----------8.7
3.Proto 05--------------8.5/8/8/9=---------8.5
4.ICD FS7--------------9/9/7/8=-----------8.3
5.E2 cocker ------------6/8/9/8=-----------7.9
6.Shocker--------------9/8.5/6/8=----------7.8
7.PIMP-----------------6/8/8/7=------------7.5

These are MY opinions you can't yell at me, I usualy don't like timmies but they perform very well.

I'm not biased because i have a E2 cocker. I've held every single one of those.
A d2 is lighter than an Alias, the list isnt that bad tho, altho every one of those guns should have a 10 for speed, there is no way anyone could outshoot one. Anyway heres my suggestions, skip everything else everyone said and look at
A) a Proto(used)
B) a Timmy(used)
C) a D2
D) a Shocker
E) Any other gun over $600 hold them all and see which you like best.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:38 PM   #19
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ive been reviewing prices and i have come down to either a Evil Pimp(used), System X NME(used), and Promaster(new)???? Between those three...they are all in my price range.

P.S. A D2 might be included in my options.....
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:48 PM   #20
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Pimp, since u wont have to put money into it on upgrades. And its backed by the greatest warranty ever.
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