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Old 05-23-2006, 12:29 PM   #1
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Ion Boards

I have seen alot of threads floating around asking about "what board this" and "what board that" and see it always end up in an argument about which is the best. So, here is a thread with info so that hopefully these questions won't have to be asked, and in effect stop some of this arguing about "which board is the best". I am only going to put boards in this thread that are ALREADY ON THE MARKET. So if one isn't up and hasn't been produced yet I don't want to see any post saying "what about board-X". Enjoy.

Stock Ion Board. Smart Parts.
The stock Ion board is a board capable of 17 bps, ramping, 3-round burst, full-auto, and can be adjusted in the RoF and Dwell settings. The board is capped at 17 and only has adjustments for dwell and RoF (recharge).
Pros:
Comes Stock
Fully Tourny Legal
17bps (2 over most tourny rules)
Cons:
Difficult Power Button
Difficult To Change Settings
Capped (athough for the more paint-conservitive this might be a "pros")

This board comes stock with the Ion.

The Blackheart Board. Smart Parts.
The Blackheart is a board made by the guys at Smart Parts as an easy drop in upgrade for their teams playing in tournys. It was made so it could be installed and on the field fully legal. This board has gotten a bad rap as being "even worse than stock". The Blackheart was specifically made for tournys and is a great board in that role. However, for rec-ballers and woods ballers alike, the Blackheart just isn't very appealing. The 20bps cap being one of the reasons why.
Pros:
Made By Smart Parts (won't void warranty)
Can Be Put In As Stock From Smart Parts
More Adjustable Than Stock
-RoF
-Trigger Debounce
-Sustain Rate (ramping)
-Shots To Enter Advance (ramping)
-First Shot Drop Off (often called ABS or anit-bolt-stick)
-PSP,NXL, And Millenium Legal (all adjustable)
-3 Shot Burst
Has A Low Battery Indicator
Speaker For Power-up And Value Changing Indication
Cons:
Price
Capped (20 bps)
Not As Adjustable As Other After Market Boards

This board can come stock if ordered and added from Smart Parts. The Blackheart sells at SP's site for $125.00
http://www.smartparts.com/Store/defa...1-2CB347A929F7}

The T-Board. Scenario Dreams.
The T-Board is one of the most popular boards on the market today. It is very adjustable, very reliable, and best of all (compared to other boards) very cheap. Quite possibly the best well-rounded board available. Not to mention the well-respected company that makes and backs this product.
Pros:
Cheap (relative to similar boards)
Uncapped
Very Adjustable
-Dwell
-Debounce
-Eye Delay
-Ramping Speed
-Ramping Activation Speed
Variety Of Modes
-Semi
-RT
-3 Shot Burst
-Full Auto
-CFOA (Capped Semi)
-PSP
-NXL
-Nitro
-Shot Q'ing
-Ego-Style Training Mode
Software Debounce
Anti-Bolst Stick (ABS)
Solderless DM Membrane Adapter
Eye Test Setting
Multi-Colored LED
Re-Programmable Micro Controller
Free Lifetime Warranty Against Defects
Lifetime Software Updates
Ability to self update (Link: http://ion.chiumanfu.com/index.php?main_page=page_7)
-PBReview Link: http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372870
Cons:
Some LED Blending problems on the older boards.

This board can be purchased from Scenario Dreams for $54.99 w/o solenoid and for $79.99 with solenoid.
http://www.scenariodreams.com/produc.../iontboard.htm

The Rampage Board. APE (Advanced Paintball Electronics)
Sorry guys, ran outta room. See second page for details.

Lucky Stage 4
The Lucky Stage 4 is the first aftermarket Ion board that offers a choice of solenoids, not
to mention it is also just as flexable and adjustable as any other board on the market. All
of this combined with the service, quality, and innovation that is associated with the Lucky
Paintball company and you have a product that is hard to beat.
Pros:
3 Different Boards for Various Price Ranges
Uncapped
Very Adjustable
-Dwell
-Anti Bbolt Stick/First Shot Drop Off Dwell
-Anti Bolt Stick/First Shot Drop Off Time
-Eye Sensitivity
-Ramp Activation Time
-Ramp Activation Shots
-Ramp Disable Time
-Mechanical Debounce
-Electrical Debounce
-Dbounce Mbounce Limiter
-MROF With Eyes
-MROF Without Eyes
-Quickstart Modes
Variety of Modes
-Semi
-PSP
-CFOA
-NXL
-Millennium
-Response
-Full Auto
-Training
-Demo
-Breakout Semi
-Breakout Ramp
-Ramp
-Burst With Saftey Shot
-Full Auto With Saftey Shot
Auto Eye Fault Detection and Recovery
15 Minute Power Down
Energy Save Auto LED Dim
Instant Power On
Tournament Lock
2 Milion Scans Per Second
Superior Eye Logic
Membrane Adapter
Choice of Solenoids
Choice of Board With or Without Solenoid
8mhz Chip
Cons:
Ummm, if you find any out let me know

The Luck Stage 4 can be purchased from Lucky Paintball for $119.00 for the Mac noid version, $99.00 for the stock noid version, and $79.00 for the board w/o noid.
Mac noid version: http://www.buyluckypaintball.com/servlet/Detail?no=196
Stock noid version: http://www.buyluckypaintball.com/servlet/Detail?no=195
Board w/o noid versoin: http://www.buyluckypaintball.com/servlet/Detail?no=194

The Raider. Tadao Technologies.
The Raider board comes from a well respected company in the paintball comunity, Tadao Technologies, and is based off of their popular Musashi 7 (M7) software. The software is extremely flexable and its quality has been proven in many other aftermarket boards for many other markers on the market today. The board comes fully assembled and tested with a full solenoid and quality hoses, barbs, seals.
Pros:
Musashi 7 (M7) Based Software
Uncapped
Very Adjustable
-Debounce
-Total Dwell
-Loader Delay
-AMB (anti-mechanical bouce)
-ABS Dwell
-Fire Mode Max Rate of Fire
-Eye Mode
-CPF (cycle percentage filter)
-Ramp Start
-"Gangster" Mode
-Pulse Dwell
-Dwell Percentage
Variety of Modes
-Semi (uncapped, adjustable)
-PSP (auto-response, mild ramping, max ramping [with adjustable ramp start], z-burst)
-NXL Full-auto
-Auto-response
-Mild Ramping
-Max Ramping
-Z-burst
-Full-auto
8Mhz Microcontroller
2 Million Scans Per Second
"Gangster" modes
Power Efficient Software (15 minute idle power down)
Non-volatile Memory Storage For Settings
Instant On
2 Eye Modes
Low Batter Indicator
Plug In Port For External LED
Plug In Port For Membrane Pad
Even Comes With A Grip Panel Settings Reminder Sticker
Cons:
Price
Not as good of a design as other Tadao boards
The Raider can be purchased from Tadao Technologies for $140.00.
http://www.tadaotechnologies.com/pro...3&idproduct=25


Edit: Due to a current ban, not all boards will be able to be shown. (Just one for now. Let us hope it stays at just one.) If you would like the info I posted for this particular board you can e-mail me at Anzrulthe13th@hotmail.com
The reason for this ban is that the manufacturers of this board acted as 3rd party users on PBR and posted flase reviews, posing as consumers on their own board while simultaneously bashing and flaming competitors board. They used multiple accounts originating from a single IP address to do this and were caught by site admin. They have since been completely banned. Before you consider buying a board that is not on this list, PLEASE insure the ethical nature of the company you are buying from. If they are unethical in their ad campaigns, how do you think they'll act when it comes time to honor their advertised lifetime warrenty? For further information if necessary, feel free to contact me. -Ebonclaw
As far as I know these are the boards that are on the market for the Smart Parts Ion. If I have missed a board or have left something out please let me know so that I can get all the information up. I hope this will help to quell some of the arguments about Ion boards, or maybe I just started another one. If this thread does start another fight about what board is the best (which is not the intent of this informative thread) I beg that a Mod. please close and delete this thread ASAP. I hope this has been useful to someone.
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:36 PM   #2
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i read it, i like it, will definately help people (including me). thanks man, good job. STICKY!!
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:44 PM   #3
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Great Thread man. Well done. Iv seen threads floatin to. STICKY
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:59 PM   #4
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Decent, the gpe board is comming out (or came out) really soon.

http://goapeonline.com/index.php
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:12 PM   #5
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Decent, the gpe board is comming out (or came out) really soon.

http://goapeonline.com/index.php
I checked the site and they only have the Pro E and the A5 boards out. When they get the Ion board out and I have a chance to read up on it and (hopefully) get my hands on it, I'll add it.
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:51 AM   #6
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Bold the board names, underline the pros & cons, maybe add some color, THEN maybe sticky.
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Old 05-24-2006, 12:20 PM   #7
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Sticky, good job man, i think i need to pull out some popcorn and spend all night reading it lol
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:36 PM   #9
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Sticky, good job man, i think i need to pull out some popcorn and spend all night reading it lol
secnoded! VERY nice man looks great all the info we'd need to make the decision
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:47 PM   #10
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An issues I noticed with the T-Board description: It has ABS. Also, as a "con" for the T-Board - the colors don't blend with the old boards, with the Ver C boards (all new ones) they will blend perfectly. A trade in deal is available for $25 to upgrade to the new Ver C style. The software on each is backwards compatible, and an upgrade to Ver C is not required, but nice if you want blending. The Ver C also has a brighter LED. IMO it's worth $25.

Add an APE Rampage and a Tadao M7 section as well.

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Old 05-24-2006, 03:00 PM   #11
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I don't think Tadao is ever going to come out with a board. So I wouldn't add a tadao section.
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I don't think Tadao is ever going to come out with a board. So I wouldn't add a tadao section.
Yeah, but what about a Preditor section?
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Bowser45 has already made a board comparison thread for the Ion Forum. Nice attempt, but I do not think that your thread deserves to be stickied.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:05 PM   #14
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Great job, but I think you should add the Tadao and Ape boards. I think you can find a little description about the Tadao board on ydna's web page.
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Well, I've made mention before about how this thread is for boards that are already on the market. As in, if you go to a proshop which supports the specific vendor you can have the board today. If you can show me a website where I can purchase a board that isn't up and get solid and reliable information about its abilities then I will glady post them. Until there is solid info and it can be purchased (not preordered or the such) I will not post a board. I made this thread for the boards that are available as of right now.

Edit: I have checked Tadao and Ape to see if they have an Ion board available and neither of the sites have one.
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Nice thread. Useful information.
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Old 05-28-2006, 01:22 PM   #19
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here's some info on the APE Ion Board:

8 Standard modes of fire
- Semi
- Reactive (programmable)
- Burst (programmable)
- Full Auto
- PSP3
- NXL
- AND 2 FULLY PROGRAMMABLE 3-step Ramping Modes!

SPEED!
You choose where to cap your maximum rate of fire OR uncap it to as fast as your hopper can feed! Separate control for speed with eyes on or eyes off as well.

Tournament Legal!
Internal Tourney Lock switch will automatically lock in your Tourney mode choice and cap your BPS rate at 15. This will also deactivate the keypad from making changes so you can play with confidence that you’re legal!

Total Marker Control
Too Many Customization Options to list! If you can think of it, you can adjust it! Programmable Auto Shutoff time, Programmable LED patterns, Programmable Keypad operations, Programmable Eye/Bolt/Noid controls…

The MOST ADVANCED RAMPING ON THE PLANET!
Over 1.7 BILLION Setpoint combinations (YES BILLION!). Never before has so much flexibility been available… Experience a whole new dimension to ramping with our “Rampage” modes!

Trigger Trainer Mode
How fast can you pull the trigger? The Rampage ION board will let you know with the built in Trigger Trainer Mode!

Total Keypad Control
The coolest keypad ever is included! Designed to work EXCLUSIVELY with the Rampage board. Adheres to the back of your ION Grip and features 3 Pillow enhanced tactile keys:
- Power
- Eyes
- Programming

PLUS 4 LEDs (Blue, Green, Yellow & Red) integrated into the Keypad

All LEDs are viewable in direct sunlight! No more washed out, hard to determine colors from a single LED

Simple yet POWERFUL
Feaures easy "Press and Go" operation with Instant On and One Touch Firing mode selection. Customize your performance with the most comprehensive ION setpoint controls available. Navigate easily amongst our setpoint matrix with the external keypad and LED's.


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Old 05-28-2006, 02:22 PM   #20
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sounds nice.


Anzrul, you might want to take off "Cheap" for the t-board, since it costs the same as the blackheart now.
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