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Old 06-07-2006, 08:14 PM   #1
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Gladiator Breakdown

Alright, I was breaking down the Borg to put in a new valve and I decided since I had my camera I would take a few pics of the Gladiator to give a very quick break down on it.
First and foremost is the reg itself, whole and unscrewed from the ASA of the Borg. As you can see Gladiators are not as long as they seem.


Next is the two halves seperated. The top half is the spring stack and the bottom is the reg seat and everything else. I didn't take any pictures of it to show the reg seat since I didn't have to clean that part but there is a small red plug in it; that's the reg seat. Also, the adjustment hex is at the bottom of the reg right near the elbow. A bit of a pain because of where it is yes but a good reg over all. The reg on the X-fighter$ Cyborg actually has a round bottom and put the hex on the side; I haven't heard anything about this bottom being released seperately as a replacement though so we're all stuck with this kind of setup.


Next, the spring stack. Mine were really gummy with old lube, probably why I wasn't getting the best consistancy. You can see all the old lube on it. Just wipe this off and the springs will be able to move freely then just relube the rings and put a bit on the stack. Don't pull the stem out of the pistons unless you know the order of the springs or you can keep them in order when you remove the stem. I've found out that the stem should be lightly lubed as well just a bit.


And finally the top half with the spring stack removed. Very simple.


That's pretty much it. I'll take a pic of the reg seat next time I have to clean the reg but until then it's a start.
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Old 06-08-2006, 02:03 AM   #2
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sticky? or at least ultimate sticky?
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:48 PM   #3
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:55 PM   #4
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Probably one of the few people on here that has a Gladiator reg.
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:20 PM   #5
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I have owned (and still do) a 2002 Gladiator (later upgraded to 2003 specs), a 2004 Gladiator, as well as a 2003 Conquest, and a few marker bits.

I may not own a Cyborg, but I've been using MacDev regulators before the Cyborg was introduced!

The 2002/3 Gladiator was actually very different from the 2004 style Gladiator found on the Cyborg, using a modified pin valve mechanism, rather than the gas-thru piston design that it currently uses. I guess that it deserves a mention in it's own right.

It is unusual in that it reverses the pin and piston arrangement, with the piston pressing down on the pin, which is mounted at the bottom of the reg. This places the spring tension adjustment towards the top of the reg, and the gas input at the bottom - again, the reverse of a normal pin valve controlled regulator: -


2002 Gladiator assembled.


First step in disassembly is to remove the end cap.


The plastic valve seat seal can then be pulled out of the end cap, releasing the valve pin and pin spring.


Switching to the regulator body, you can now look at the end of the cylinder and see the brass piston - this one has been modified to include a dimple to help keep the valve pin in alignment. The piston can be pulled out with a pair of pliers.


Removing the piston gives access to the piston spring. This can just be tipped out in to your hand.


Under the piston spring is a large ball bearing. This is part of the adjustment mechanism used to change the spring tension.


Finally, there is a second, smaller, ball bearing. It is this that presses against the larger bearing to place tension on the piston spring. The adjustment screw moves the smaller bearing in or out to move the larger bearing up or down, changing the spring tension.


To service, clean the reg cylinder, piston, piston spring and ball bearings. Grease the small bearing, and drop it in to the body, ensuring that it aligns with the adjustment screw. Grease the large ball bearing, and then drop this in to the cylinder, ensuring that the small bearing remains in place. Grease the piston spring and drop it in, followed by the greased piston.

Then drop the pin spring and pin in to the end cap (there is a depression for the spring to sit in) and then place the reg seat seal over the pin, and press it in to the end cap - keep the face of the seat seal as clean as possible. Then screw the end cap on to the reg body, and you're finished.
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:30 PM   #6
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Umm, my Gladiator is cooler and more simple then yours? Nya.
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Old 06-18-2006, 08:21 AM   #7
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And yet, your 2006 Gladiator is no different to my 2004 one..... MacDev resting on their laurels? Surely not?

Anyway? How can you even say it's cool when there are no ball bearings in it???
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:02 PM   #8
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There's one I believe beneath the seat which is in the lower part which I didn't take pictures of. Only because I've heard unless you have problems with the seat, don't touch it so I just played with the spring stack.
Glad to have you back though Uziel. Bring me a pasta dish?
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:51 PM   #9
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Actually, you're right - not really required by the gas-thru piston regulator design at all, but the 2004 style Gladiator design does place a ball bearing between adjustment screw and the reg seat carrier. I can only assume that it is only there to stop the adjustment screw causing any wear on the bottom of the carrier. Not a functional requirement, but a nice touch anyway.

But hey, two ball bearings must be better than one right?

The 2004 design is also much less dirt sensitive than the 2002/3 model, which is a definite advantage - it's just a little too generic for my tastes, basically the same as a WGP, WDP, CP or Sidewinder reg. Still, a damn good regulator for all that! (and as you know, always on my list of recommended regulators).

ps Which do you prefer Amatriciana or Arriabiata sauce?
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Old 06-18-2006, 01:52 PM   #10
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Umm, the red sauce?
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Old 06-18-2006, 03:08 PM   #11
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Not the Carbonara sauce then.....
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