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Old 08-22-2006, 05:19 PM   #1
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New Deadly wind gun

Name: aedes (unconfirmed)

Price: $600-700 (unconfirmed)

Release Date: december-january (unconfirmed)

operating system: a MQ-valve and a blow-forward Spring-return bolt. It is capable of 54 full shot cycles pers second with the mechanical anti-chop bolt. It can cycle the bolt 83 times a second(not long enough dwell to fire a paintball)

specs: (not much info avalable)
8 gram reciprocating mass
The prototype weighed 15.8 oz without a barrel or regulator. (before it got eyes)
electronic operation.

pictures: http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~dfinch/images/DWpics/
(fully assembled pics twards the bottom of the page)

Video: http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc...-ReloaderB.mpg

sound file: http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc/83cps.wav
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:26 PM   #2
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looks promising kinda looks like d2 tho....i may buy it when released
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:41 PM   #3
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Looks like Deadlywind got bored and built an Ego, then stuck a steel drum on the top for a feedneck.

Still waiting for someone to buy old factory equipment from Airstar and make a GOOD gun with a reciprocating barrel. Sadly, I think nearly all paintball gun designs have been found for now.
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:44 PM   #4
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I'd wait till gen2 or gen3 before I buy that. They need to work on the looks also.
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:49 PM   #5
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Old news, but I guess the specs are new.
Why can't it just be full ep! I don't like it anyhow.
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:51 PM   #6
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Still waiting for someone to buy old factory equipment from Airstar and make a GOOD gun with a reciprocating barrel.
Hahaha, yeah, and Im still waiting for AGD Kids to come out of nowhere and lead the NPPL.
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:05 PM   #7
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Looks like Deadlywind got bored and built an Ego, then stuck a steel drum on the top for a feedneck.
And another drum on the bottom for the V/A.


I hate to say it, but it's ugly. If the dimensions on the feedneck and VA wewn't so screwed up in comparison to the rest of the body it would look a lot better.
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:08 PM   #8
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:21 PM   #9
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From the video, it seemed damn quiet. Although, I wonder how efficient it is.

Might have to look into it in the future.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:07 PM   #10
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electronic operation.
Unless DW changed the design of the gun since I looked at the specs (about 2 months ago), the feature that was the talk of the gun was that is was mechanical and just as fast as any electro.

However, now that they added eyes, I wonder if they changed everything or just added a board for the eyes.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:44 PM   #11
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looks fugly to me. Looks Egoish, yet spyderish.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:23 PM   #12
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ew, looks like d2 or legend
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:40 PM   #13
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ugly but it seems like it has good performance.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:48 PM   #14
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Stock carbon fiber barrel?
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Old 08-23-2006, 03:28 PM   #15
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ugly, but deadlywind makes good stuff so i'm sure it's great
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Old 08-23-2006, 03:53 PM   #16
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looks sweet
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:18 PM   #17
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Since it sports the MQ valve system, it is going to be one of the fastest cycling markers in paintball.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:14 PM   #18
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I think it looks freakin sweet. Not worth the 600$ though.
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Old 08-24-2006, 01:41 AM   #19
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Old news, but I guess the specs are new.
Why can't it just be full ep! I don't like it anyhow.
You're thinking of it as if it were a Wrath; stop now.

In reality this marker appears to be similar to a Mag; except instead of having a standard on/off assembly there is an MQ in the bottom tube, which when on supplies gas to the top tube and thus moves the bolt forward and fires, with the spring returning the bolt to the cocked position. Unlike a mag however, there doesn't appear to be a sear, which means that the only thing that holds the bolt back is spring tension and a lack of pressure pushing the bolt forward, at this moment I would like to point out that for this reason this marker is likely to run at relatively high pressures and have a very high-flow version of the MQ valve. Furthermore, if you take a good look you can see that if the only thing in the bottom tube is an MQ valve that there is a massive amount of room to act as a dump chamber/volumizer, which is likely a good thing as the marker probably needs a lot of air to fire.


My predictions:

- This marker will be innefficient
- This marker will have almost no kick
- This marker likely has a copy of AGD's Level 10 bolt (the best ACS bolt ever made)
- A mechanical version likely will appear if Deadly Wind ever gets past patent issues with the hAir trigger

An autococker MQ, so people understand what I'm reffering to:



How to make this marker EP:
(assuming they don't redesign the MQ much)


Now, to answer to soccerjacks original question (which I will answer as if it weren't rhetorical), it can't be fully EP because that would require either a more complex solenoid assembly than the existing one, or another solenoid altogether, either way the amount of gain would be negligible.

To make this marker EP you would have to remove the solenoid portion of the MQ and replace the back end of the valve portion with a slug with a hole drilled and tapped in it, and a QEV placed in this hole and a LP hose leading down into the frame. Then the spring would have to be removed from the top of the tube and a tapped hole would have to be made with an LP hose routed through a QEV leading down to the frame (and the bolt would likely need modification to ensure that it seals correctly). Then an ION board/solenoid could be placed in the frame, with both the LP hoses being routed into the output of the solenoid with a "T" fitting, the input could be plugged as it is no longer needed (as the gas in the MQ would supply pressure to the front of the bolt as well, although the passage through the MQ poppet might have to be widened). The result would be that the venting of the solenoid would drop the pressure in the LP hoses and thus actuate the QEV's, which would vent the pressure in the fore section of the bolt and the aft of the MQ.
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Old 08-24-2006, 03:49 AM   #20
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i think it looks good.but the 'looks' actually suck.
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