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Old 12-19-2006, 11:08 AM   #21
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only bad thing about propane is refills, and the possibility of fire and explosions!
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:50 AM   #22
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the possibility of fire and explosions!
Pssh.. who worries bout that.....
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:24 PM   #23
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i think tippmann should stay were there woods ball / mil-sim and develop an amazing looking pistol that could snap on to an a-5 or 98c. or go speed ball and have the old model 98s come back with an ebolt kit and dominate the speed ball world

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Old 12-19-2006, 01:33 PM   #24
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only bad thing about propane is refills, and the possibility of fire and explosions!
Propane cylinders cost only ~$5, after every 50,000 shots you could dispose of it and buy a new one.

Hopefully, tippmann would work out any fire and explosion errors in a semi-auto PEP before selling it.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:53 PM   #25
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Explosions are fun.........unless they are pointblank to you, and it envolves a crud load of propane....then it hurts.
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:38 PM   #26
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Propane cylinders cost only ~$5, after every 50,000 shots you could dispose of it and buy a new one.

Hopefully, tippmann would work out any fire and explosion errors in a semi-auto PEP before selling it.
Tippmann is definitely moving in the right direction with the propane powered paintball guns in my opinion. Propane is extremely cheap and efficient (at least in terms of the way Tippmann uses the gas produced from the combusting propane, and not the propane itself). Tippmann would never produce a marker that would potentially explode because of liability issues; Iím pretty sure they got all of the bugs worked out with that before they produced the C3. The real issue that Tippmann needs to deal with before producing a propane powered semi-auto marker is the issue of heat. I have a friend that owns a C3, and he has told me that the thing gets really hot pretty fast.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:23 AM   #27
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I'll be posting one of my designs for a fully magnetic trigger on an A-5. In theory it should work correctly but I do not have the needed tools. It should work on any sear tripped gun.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:07 AM   #28
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nice.

I say they make a fully walkable mech, aren't automags like that?
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:20 AM   #29
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some people with automag claim they can walk a automag with the ult kit, i cant. the kit does really lighten the trigger pull. then u have the hair trigger that ptp and deadly winds developed on there own. those r walkable but so far there r only home made versions of it. something about patent issues . ptp was also going to make the hair trigger for other markers also.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:55 PM   #30
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I know there are more Tippy guys willing to post!
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:08 AM   #31
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tippmanns definatly going to be around for a long time. just look at there 20th anniversary gun.. do u see any other company with a 20th anniversary gun or even a tenth anniversary gun? theyve already come this far.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:00 PM   #32
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Tippmann now dominates everything but speed speedball, and if they want to keep dominating the non-speedball industy they really need to keep up the good work. They have come out with many revolutionary ideas (response, PEP), and i belive if they keep coming out with products like these tippman will stay THE main player in woodsball if they keep coming up with these ideas.

As we all know tippmann desperately a product that they can break into the speedball market with. A product that will make widely known as a legit speedball company and not just a woods ball company. To do this i belive that they need to make a entry level speed ball gun, as much as it pains me to say this, like a ion.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:25 AM   #33
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Found It! Ancient Thread with my musings on a high-end Tippmann. I'll copy and paste to keep you from digging, but the whole thing is there if you want to READ, don't post.

Without further ado:
Why not a speedballesque amalgam of both the 98C and A-5? If they used a heavier hammer and springs you could shorten the stroke, use a shorter power tube/front bolt, I think you could shorten the body. Have the integrated vert adapter like the A-5 with one of those "mini-expansion chambers" like a Spyder. You could have an optional 15* ASA adapter for the angled forward look. Stick with the removeable grip-frame like the A-5, but come out with more options for changing out the grip, like an MP-5 frame, a .45 frame, maybe even something like the AGD Y-grip or WDP Space Frame. Keep the E-grip and E-Bolt options. Use (at least)carbine or (preferably)Cocker threads, maybe offer a Flatline. Use a vert feed or something like the Lapco Direct Feed or even a traditional power feed. If you wanted to be extreme you could use something like the quick strip mod on model98.net so that the front of the recievers could be switched from vert feed to powerfeed and to allow for easy access to the front bolt. Put it out in some nice colors/fades/etc. to supplement basic Tippmann black, and I think it might be a good marker. [/brainstorm]

For those of you who noticed I omitted the R/T and Cyclone. If the marker is supposed to be mostly for speedball, R/T's are generally illegal in that context and Cyclones are just a bit too bulky.

-brainstorm 2-

I thought about a more realistic avenue that Tippmann might take for a "high-end" marker. This is going to make some of you pureists cry foul, but I think that they should come out with a blow forward semi auto. If they could modify the CVX valve for blow forward operation they would have one hell of a good gun. Especially since the CVX is good with CO2 and other blowforwards(Mags and ICD semis) are notoriously tempermental when CO2 is used.


I'd still stand by those words today, it would be a bad arse gat. Of course they could also try to bring back a shortened E-bolt package since apparently inline ram/poppet guns like the Mini and Onyx are now coming back into vogue.

Not that they will do any of that, but still I like to dream. It's always nice to see a company do something you thought they should do.

Back here in reality I'm thinking we'll see them continue to expand in the woods ball market while testing the waters in speedball until they get it right. I don't think that the Triumph and X-7 were the greatest things for them to do, but it shows they are taking steps and trying to make some progress, which is good. I'm hope they'll come out of the box with something radical again in the next couple of years, it'd be a shame to see one of the traditional great innovators in the industry rest on its laurels.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:20 PM   #34
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I sell at least one Tippman a week, and I'm only there 3-4 days out of 7. I still recommend Tippmanns over anything for a newer player and the people who buy them are happy with the choice they made.

The X-7 is an attempt to "unify" the scenario woodsball market and to bring business into the whole "mil-sim" aspect. Instead of having 10,000 tactical parts by different compaines, Tippmann and SpecOps decided to just create all of that anyways. I think part of the X-7 is ridiculous, but then another part of it appeals to me. Not a bad move for them, but keep the ol' 98C and A-5 running strong.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:57 PM   #35
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Empire just came out with the invert mini. If Tippmann could combine some of the ideas of that with the propane they could get a some good Ideas. And the idea about shorting the power tube and having a stronger drive spring and lighter bolt would be good. I have been coming up with Ideas for them to get a smaller gun. I am also taking mec engineer classes so these things are just drawings on paper. but if tippmann could see this they need to know that the people have ideas and we want to be heard with these ideas. TIPPMANN! Can hear what the people are saying? Show the world what you do! Use our ideas! Tippmann will always be my fav end of story. There is none higher. -Beavis and Butthead
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Old 01-01-2007, 01:49 PM   #36
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Keep it coming guys... Tippmann is truly awsome...
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:14 PM   #37
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heres some thing i dont want them to do. come out with a "rocking" trigger.but some thing i want them to do is have a replacement for the 98c, and have an e-bolt type kit.
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:09 PM   #38
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Smile Tippmann!!

Ya i love tippys! My first gun was a 98 custom pro e-triger loved it so much i now a an A-5 on its way! I think tippmann should work on thier squadbuster b/c noone realy thinks of it as a great gernade anymore and a milsim gun for under 250 would be nice
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:27 PM   #39
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only bad thing about propane is refills, and the possibility of fire and explosions!
It wont happen much, I mean in a propane lantern the tank is right under a burning flame, no explosions I have heard of. And they are the same types and size of tank, does anyone make a drop for it or is it regular ASA?
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:12 AM   #40
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tippmann dose need to work on there prices of there new markers(x-7 $400...WOW)and the gun out of the box dosent out preform any better than an a-5 $225 at least thats what all the reviews ive read said. they just need to keep these things in check. the thing that keeps tippy going is its rep as a working mans marker(durable,price,easy to use)there on top and they have got to let the people who put them there keep them there.i still think tippmann rules!!!!!
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