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Old 01-07-2007, 11:09 AM   #41
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I don't know about a high-end electro. It doesn't really seem like their style. What would be really sweet is a blow forward, high-end mech. That is something they should be able to do a really good job with.
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:27 AM   #42
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A high end mech would be very nice for them to come out with, but i think Tippmann would totally take over the woodsball world more than they already have if they released a propane powered gun similar to the custom, and if they sold it for the same price ($>200). Just think of how many people would buy a custom if it were cheaper and didnt need to get a new tank but once a year. Talk about domination..
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:17 PM   #43
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Yeah, definitely. I'd buy a tried and true propane semi in a heart beat.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:34 PM   #44
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In my opnion tippmann is losing a bit of steam, if they dont come out with a new revolutionary marker not like the x-7 or the triuphm or they will lose some sales but overall stay dominant
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:58 PM   #45
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I think Tippmann should make Cyclone Feed kits for other markers... hey if I didn't require a whole lot of work to put on and it was fast... I would consider putting one on my timmy then!
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:59 PM   #46
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tac-one > a-5.
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Old 01-14-2007, 03:55 PM   #47
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tac-one > a-5.
Before i start flameing you from heck to breakfast, im going tell you that post is off topic and hope you are kidding.
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Old 01-15-2007, 05:44 AM   #48
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So you're going to say that an Automag is worse than an A-5...I think you're going to have some trouble with that argument. That's just me though.

Besides it's kind of relevant since we were all just going "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Tippmann did a blow forward gun."
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:52 AM   #49
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So you're going to say that an Automag is worse than an A-5...I think you're going to have some trouble with that argument. That's just me though.

Besides it's kind of relevant since we were all just going "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Tippmann did a blow forward gun."

Sorry i got the markers mixed up, i incorrectly thought that he was talking about the JT tac-5.
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:32 AM   #50
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Sorry i got the markers mixed up, i incorrectly thought that he was talking about the JT tac-5.
Understandable, thats what I thought.

Mags have become rare and mystical beasts around where I play, while the JT gun is as common as ugly chicks at the bar at closing time.

Ez mistake.

A far as the future of Tippmann, I might as well chime in with what I would like to see(i may have already. lol)
1. Receivers made of composite similar to a a glock or the old PMI black Maxx.
I still have two of these packed away, and they were so light it was amazing. Not the greatest guns, but super light. Now I am doubting myself. Was the whole receiver composite? I seem to remember it being that way. Crap, now I have to go check. But later.

2. More stylish cyclone. Something cooler than a flat bottomed cylinder. It's bound to happen.

3. More scenario based products.Like I would love to see an adaptation of the c3. A double barrel shotgun. Two seperate shots for every pump would make it pretty neat.

4. Shorter marker. As short a body as a shocker, probably not. But something that could almost double as a pistol, but with expandability. Or move trigger frame forward to where the front grip is(thinking A-5 design). This would likely raise the vertical profile slightly. There is are several firearms that operate like that. It gives a much more balanced feel and lets you take corners much better. In essence you would be moving the operating parts to the "stock".
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:40 AM   #51
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Understandable, thats what I thought.

Mags have become rare and mystical beasts around where I play, while the JT gun is as common as ugly chicks at the bar at closing time.
Yeah, i have never seen a mag in person. I looked at some on the internet, and strongly considered buying one at one time.
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Having shot a couple of very nice Mags, they are a very impressive gun, I was strongly considering one for a while before you had to have electro everything to get into tournament ball. They are fast for a mech, and dead accurate, and that's before you talk about being small, and crazy reliable.

I understand your confusion though, and the Tac Five is in fact a poor facsimile of Tippmann's excellent single tube blowback design.

Mjr, you're right about moving the frame, if they brought the frame and foregrip closer together the marker would handle much differently than the current setup with them spaced so widely apart. It is no so much physical length, but spacing of the grips that makes Tippmanns a "long" gun.

For a good example of what frame spacing can do take a look a '02 Generation and Alias Generation Intimidators. An '05 Gen gun feels a lot differently and handles much more tightly than an '02. The only difference is the frame being moved forward to sit much more closely to the foregrip/vert reg.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:46 AM   #53
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yup thats what I was thinkin

Those timmies definately have the idea.

I think the key(and they seem to achieve it) is to get the weight of the hopper centered over your hand.

Or get the hopper even further back (ie gripfame further front) to compensate for the weight of a flatline.

In a milsim it would similar to a calico



or maybe a type 5


Or the AUG
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Old 01-15-2007, 10:46 AM   #54
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My dad had an Aug back in the early 90's.. Bought it for 1200, shoulda kept it till now, they are selling for 10k. He misses that thing, but my mom made him sell it cause we didn't have any furniture...lol
To relate back to the thread... I think the idea of centering the trigger frame below the hopper would do a lot for the overall balance of the marker. It'd be a weird looking design though.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:50 PM   #55
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Understandable, thats what I thought.
...an adaptation of the c3. A double barrel shotgun. Two seperate shots for every pump would make it pretty neat...
Hmmm, a double barrel pump pep. That sounds interesting. Most of the places I play have a 3 round bust rule, so a double would be competetive, wouldn't it? (never having used a pump, someone please educate me. If I'm wrong tell me and I'll learn.)
As for the heat (someone said their friend's C5 gets hot)... there should be plenty of ways to deal with that... what are the real M-16's and AK-47's like in regards to heat? They must have done something that works.
I think a stupid but workable approach would be similar to motorcycle exhaust... a heat shield.
Another approach could be an aluminium honeycomb... it wouldn't have to be large... 1/4" maybe... it would be like the cooling fins on your computer's cpu. And a honeycomb is an inherently strong design... that would be in keeping with the durability side of Tippmann.

So, would you go over-under, or side-by-side.
I'll vote for the side-by-side. The look would be awesome...
to die for
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:33 AM   #56
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Hmmm, a double barrel pump pep. That sounds interesting. Most of the places I play have a 3 round bust rule, so a double would be competetive, wouldn't it? (never having used a pump, someone please educate me. If I'm wrong tell me and I'll learn.)
As for the heat (someone said their friend's C5 gets hot)... there should be plenty of ways to deal with that... what are the real M-16's and AK-47's like in regards to heat? They must have done something that works.
I think a stupid but workable approach would be similar to motorcycle exhaust... a heat shield.
Another approach could be an aluminium honeycomb... it wouldn't have to be large... 1/4" maybe... it would be like the cooling fins on your computer's cpu. And a honeycomb is an inherently strong design... that would be in keeping with the durability side of Tippmann.

So, would you go over-under, or side-by-side.
I'll vote for the side-by-side. The look would be awesome...
to die for
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i would go side to side, with two hoppers, powerfeed style. One going left one going right.

I hear what you are saying about a two shot at once being cool(if i heard you right) but I was actually thinking you could pump once, fire twice, pump one, etc. This would let you up your ROF on the gun and be more competitive on a semi only field.

Of course now that ai think about it I want BOTH. A semi/dual select feature would be awsome.

Why even stop at two barrels? If you can feed off a single hopper then,why not go tri-barrel? As long as you could keep the weight down it would be excellent.

And a three round all at once shot would get closer to aproximating the firing characteristics of a real shotgun.

And you are absolutely correct about a heatsink system to clear off the excess heat created. Worst case scenario you have to get a 9V to run a quiet ball bearing fan. If you drop the input voltage to 5V (just like the low voltage in a PC) those are almost silent.

Heck , as long as we are being silly,
Two .68 barrels on top and a paint grenage launcher/grape cluster launcher below.
One pump can either operate the top two once each, or the bottom once. A two trigger system would probably work best there.
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i would go side to side, with two hoppers, powerfeed style. One going left one going right.

I hear what you are saying about a two shot at once being cool(if i heard you right) but I was actually thinking you could pump once, fire twice, pump one, etc. This would let you up your ROF on the gun and be more competitive on a semi only field.

Of course now that ai think about it I want BOTH. A semi/dual select feature would be awsome.

Why even stop at two barrels? If you can feed off a single hopper then,why not go tri-barrel? As long as you could keep the weight down it would be excellent.

And a three round all at once shot would get closer to aproximating the firing characteristics of a real shotgun.

And you are absolutely correct about a heatsink system to clear off the excess heat created. Worst case scenario you have to get a 9V to run a quiet ball bearing fan. If you drop the input voltage to 5V (just like the low voltage in a PC) those are almost silent.

Heck , as long as we are being silly,
Two .68 barrels on top and a paint grenage launcher/grape cluster launcher below.
One pump can either operate the top two once each, or the bottom once. A two trigger system would probably work best there.
Kudos, i would buy that for sure. It would be pretty sweet if they could do it without making it exetremely expensive like most on gun grenade lanchers. It would could really make exotics much more acessable to the average joe.
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:46 AM   #58
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i would go side to side, with two hoppers, powerfeed style. One going left one going right.

I hear what you are saying about a two shot at once being cool(if i heard you right) but I was actually thinking you could pump once, fire twice, pump one, etc. This would let you up your ROF on the gun and be more competitive on a semi only field.

Of course now that ai think about it I want BOTH. A semi/dual select feature would be awsome.

And a three round all at once shot would get closer to aproximating the firing characteristics of a real shotgun.

And you are absolutely correct about a heatsink system to clear off the excess heat created. Worst case scenario you have to get a 9V to run a quiet ball bearing fan. If you drop the input voltage to 5V (just like the low voltage in a PC) those are almost silent.
I've thought about it... I would definitely but a side-by-side! If it had replaceable barrels, or barrels that are the equivalent of the whisper barrel, that would be excellent!
I would also want a double notch trigger... one pull, two clicks. 1st click 1st ball...2nd click 2nd ball... the pump. That way you could fire 1 and later 2, or you could fire 1-2, or you could fire 12.... the delay would be dependant of how fast you pull the trigger thru both notches.
I would do without the "add-ons".

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Old 01-22-2007, 02:47 PM   #59
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I say tippy buys out airguns and manufactures more mags. i used to have a tac-one, the thing raped face.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:13 AM   #60
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When the time some for their next generation of woodsball markers, I'd liek to see them find a better balance between "milsim" look and practicality.
Foremost, it'd be nice to see the grip (main grip, not front grip) placed a bit further forward, for a more well-balanced gun for snap-shooting.
The woodsball market is where they belong, and I'd never want to see them stop making their unbreakable blowback markers.

However, I'd love to see them produce a magazine-fed paintball pistol. Anyone who's ever thought of getting a pistol wishes they could get a magazine-fed one without having to shell out $220+ for a Tib8 (especially for an 8-round magazine).
What I'm afraid of though is that they'll start to focus more on looks than actual functionality in order to appeal to the growing scenario/milsim community.
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