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Old 11-15-2007, 08:09 PM   #1
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Looking for best gun for CO2

Im New to paintball and i'v been reading the fourms about how any of the highend guns need a HPA tank to run, im wondering whats the best possible combo marker for a Co2 tank. Thanks.
Also if any one could answer this, do all E-Markers need HPA?
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:34 AM   #2
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First, electronic does not necessarily mean HPA. A-5s with an e-grip on them work fine with CO2, because they are basically mechanical guns with an electronic trigger device. But guns like Ions have electronics in places that are very sensitive to things liquid CO2.

But before we can really recommend a gun, we need to know your budget.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:36 AM   #3
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looking to spend 500-600 for whole package
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:10 AM   #4
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Just looking fast....

Ion XE ($225) or Proto SLG ($250)
HPA fiber tank $160
Proto Switch EL or Vforce Provantage mask $25
lube $9
squeegee $3
barrel sock $5
Halo hopper $87
Empire fast SS pod pack $30
3 pods $9
CP Classic or J&J ceramic 1 piece barrel $30 (optional, the marker will come with a barrel but aftermarket makes gun more accurate)

Brings you to $580-$610 with barrel. Doing better searching can net you cheaper prices, going used on some things will also help. You can modify this by choosing a lower grade gun or going with a different tank, but I'd leave most of the rest intact. I listed the Halo as the hopper, but you can also fanagle a bit and end up with a Vlocity Jr. with speed feed and a gangstar chip for $97

EDIT: sometimes the marker will come with lube and a sock.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:25 AM   #5
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There a particular reason you're wanting to stick with co2? Because with your budget, you can go hpa no problem. But some people don't have access to compressed air fills (hpa), so i'd understand that.

The new Smart Parts Vibe focuses on co2 use and is comparable to the Ion. Well, it IS an Ion, just with no eyes, lower bps cap & reg designed for co2. And is fairly cheap.

Chicken listed a pretty good setup if you choose to go with hpa.

Also, Lenny is correct about not all e-markers need hpa. The Tippman he mentioned and e-spyders as well. However, most mid to high-end markers need (or are highly recommended to use with) hpa. Guns like timmys, egos, trixes (DM3/4/5/6/7/8/100000), minis, etc.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:21 PM   #6
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Proto SLG - $140
Pure Energy Carbon Fibre Tank - $100
Halo w/Rip Drive and v35 board - $110
Empire E-Vents - $100
Dye Attack Pack - $70
Dye C7 Pants - $100

Thats around your pricepoint.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:33 PM   #7
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Proto SLG - $140
Pure Energy Carbon Fibre Tank - $100
Halo w/Rip Drive and v35 board - $110
Empire E-Vents - $100
Dye Attack Pack - $70
Dye C7 Pants - $100

Thats around your pricepoint.
The SLG costs $250, a non-used carbon fiber tank will cost more than $100, $70 for an overrated pod pack that doesn't offer better performance than a $40 one is outrageous, Profilers can be found for around $60 and are just as good as Vents, and $100 pants are completely unnecessary.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:17 AM   #8
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You all still seem to be missing the point that he asked about a gun that would run on CO2. Granted, we haven't heard from him as to why that is, but it doesn't help him to recommend all of these HPA tanks if he can't use HPA.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:24 AM   #9
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ok you want something that will pwn with CO2? your budget is 5 to 600 dollars ...

would that be canadian or US?

either way, youl want a Blazer. http://http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/a1/

Palmers makes them to YOUR description. with custom ano and everything.

get yourself a nice revy along with it and dont skimp on goggles.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:32 AM   #10
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ok you want something that will pwn with CO2? your budget is 5 to 600 dollars ...

would that be canadian or US?

either way, youl want a Blazer. http://http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/a1/

Palmers makes them to YOUR description. with custom ano and everything.

get yourself a nice revy along with it and dont skimp on goggles.
Except that you've nearly maxed out his budget with the marker alone.

Sorry, I didn't see about the CO2 issue. Yes, if you don't have to depend on it, HPA is a far better choice. If you need CO2, your choices are going to be limited:

Tippmann 98 or A5 or X7
Ion, Vibe
Spyder VS1
Some autocockers if you can find them
old used high-end guns

These are still good choices, but most listed are for woodsball style. I don't know what type of balling you intend to play.

From what I know, oddly enough you are at a price point where you can easily obtain a decent HPA setup, but don't have the funds to buy high-end C02 mechanicals. Were you able to raise your budget to $700-$800, I would recommend the Blazer or an AGD Tac-One.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:17 AM   #11
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actualy i managed to score my blazer for about 350... though it is a refurb.

but Palmers does have prebuilt Blazers in stock as is for about 400 dollars. which leaves him more than enough for a good mask and a hopper that will work.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:42 PM   #12
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The diablo wrath is a decent gun that works perfectly fine on CO2. The only risk is you might loose an oring if you point your gun straight down and start ripping.

If you go for a wrath though, make sure you replace the bolt. The stock bolt is absolute garbage. It makes the gun kick like a beast.
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