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Old 12-10-2002, 12:57 PM   #21
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does the pi e2 have flush cocking too? or just the m3
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:07 PM   #22
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They're basically the same gun, so yes, the PI-E2 does have flush cocking.
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Old 12-13-2002, 01:04 PM   #23
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The replacement O-rings that M3 includes are as follows:

* Black O-ring with white dot is the striker (hammer) O-ring
* Black O-ring without the white dot is the bolt O-ring
* Red O-rings probably just replace whatever red O-rings you're taking off, I didn't clarify if there's a difference
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Old 12-18-2002, 09:12 AM   #24
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Does any one know if you can get a board for a PI-E2 that lets it go full auto??? D you Lcd go full auto??

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Old 12-25-2002, 06:31 PM   #25
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how are the holes lined up on the black dragun compact on the bottom of the trigger frame??? i heard they were spyder but i wasnt sure....
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Old 12-25-2002, 09:08 PM   #26
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The Compact has M3 specific inline holes that need an adapter. The other Black Dragun Series markers have offset Spyder and industry standard inline holes while the M92 grip Patriot Series markers have the offset Spyder holes only so Spyder adapter is needed.

The Lapco Spyder bottomline adapter has a 7 degree angle while the 32* and other Spyder bottomline adapter makers are flat.
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Old 01-13-2003, 09:12 AM   #27
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what's the difference between a PI E-2 and a M3 Black Dragun LCD?
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Old 01-19-2003, 06:19 PM   #28
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What's the difference with the Sniper and Black Dragun Series?

Will a Sniper take AKALMP LP Spyder internals?
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Old 01-30-2003, 12:28 PM   #29
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The Sniper is a subset of the Black Dragun, part of the Patriot series without the Graffitti barrel. It is based off of the LCD, has its own custom milling, only came in black (I heard they were discontinuing them hence past tense), had the bottom line regulator, and had M3's two piece barrel and aluminum trigger.

Although some of the Snipers appearently did not ship with either the al. trigger or the two piece. I guess this was to lower the price a little more. However, if yours did not come with one, just tell M3 and they'll ship out the other pieces.

As far as the specific internals, I'm not sure, but I'm sure other people have experience with them. I can say it is a Spyder "clone" and should take them, but I think people may have had problems with that one... anyone else care to comment?
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Old 02-06-2003, 08:12 PM   #30
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AKALMP Parts

To answer your question, AKALMP parts will work in all BD's. The only part I think some people have trouble with is the maddman rocket valve but aka doesn't make that.
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Old 03-11-2003, 09:24 AM   #31
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'02 model lineup

There have been several question about model differences so I copied this from a reply that I made in a different thread. Please PM me if I left something out. I should have the complete '03 lineup info, including the Dragunfly, in a week or so.

This info was just added to the FAQ:

'02 model lineup
There have been several question about model differences so I copied this from a reply that I made in a different thread. Please PM me if I left something out. I should have the complete '03 lineup info, including the Dragunfly, in a week or so.

02' lineup:
Compact - composite M45 ETF, rear cocking bolt, no reg or gas thru foregrip, no drop forward, no lpc, 1 piece barrel, vertical adapter, 10bps semi only, plastic trigger

Hi Compact - Aluminum M45 ETF, snapback flush cocking, no reg, no gas thru foregrip, no drop forward, LPC, 1 piece barrel, vertical adapter with psi gauge, 10bps auto/10bps semi or 10bps semi only, aluminum trigger

Basic (LED) - Aluminum M45 ETF, snapback flush cocking, gas thru foregrip, LPC, drop forward with bottomline and psi gauge, 1 piece barrel, Aluminum trigger, 10bps semi

LCD - Aluminum M45 LCD ETF, snapback flush cocking, inline reg, vertical adapter with psi gauge, LPC, drop forward with bottomline, 2 piece barrel, aluminum double trigger, programmable multi modes with adjustable ROF (4~20bps Full auto, 4~ 20bps semi, 10bps multi with 1~20 round burst, nitro fires at the semi ROF setting but fires 3 extra shots when the trigger is pulled twice), 4~20bps semi only tourny legal board can be purchased


Patriot series: Sniper/Stars & Stripes
Aluminum M92 LCD ETF, snapback flush cocking, gas thru foregrip, drop forward with bottomline and psi gauge, LPC, 1 piece (or 2 piece barrel), plastic (or aluminum) double trigger, programmable multi modes with adjustable ROF (4~20bps Full auto, 4~ 20bps semi, 10bps multi with 1~20 round burst, nitro fires at the semi ROF setting but fires 3 extra shots when the trigger is pulled twice), 4~20bps semi only tourny legal board can be purchased

Stars and stripes adds different milling and red or blue colors, star design drop forward, and a .689 bore ACI Graffiti series barrel.

The Sniper comes with either a plastic trigger/1pc barrel combo or aluminum trigger/2pc barrel combo.
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Old 03-25-2003, 11:27 PM   #32
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:08 PM   #33
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I attatch the CO2, cock it and fire, but it doesn't re-cock itself. I have taken out the valve and replaced the O rings on it as well as the O rings on the bolt. It still doesn't re-cock. What The Heck TO DO!
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:37 PM   #34
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Instead of wasting space in the FAQ thread why don't you post this in a new thread so more people will see it.
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Old 04-09-2003, 07:15 AM   #35
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Doesn't the 2002 Basic have a bottomline regulator? or is that what you meant by saying "bottomline and psi gauge"
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:25 PM   #36
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Can someoe please post the specs of the 03 line? Thanks
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Old 04-27-2003, 12:56 PM   #37
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I have a Black Dragun paintball marker and i am having a problem with the co2. Whenever i screw the canister in, it all sprays out. I really need help with this. Thanks.

P.S. Its not the co2 canister because it works on my brothers gun. Contact me on AIM if you have an answer AIM- PIC Ares.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:32 PM   #38
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I have a quick question on the velocity adjusting. How much does the FPS increase/decrease for a full turn?
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Old 05-06-2003, 04:31 PM   #39
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how low will the M3 LED psi will go and also for it to recock for you guys ? ( this is for the stock with removed venturi and polished internals )
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Old 05-24-2003, 11:08 PM   #40
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PI E-2

"what's the difference between a PI E-2 and a M3 Black Dragun LCD?"

My understanding is the PI E-2 is a M3 LCD without a regulator.

Not sure what the differences are between the 2002 LCD and the 2003 LCD, I would think it's in the electronics???

Can someone elaborate on the 2003 line-up a little more??? I am heavily contemplating the Dragunfly, but have not read any real reviews on it.
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