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PMI Piranha EXT 2K3 Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
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Average Rating: |
8.4 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$210 |
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This great new gun from PMI is sure to cause some waves at your local field. It features the 2K3 body style, factory-installed bottomline and drop forward, and built-in high pressure gauge. Play like a pro this year: Get the EXT PRO 2K3.
Features include: Flush cocking bolt system
PMI Raim Air chamber
PMI locking velocity adjust knob
PMI raised sight rail
PMI stainless steel valve
PMI venturi bolt
PMI high performance ported barrel
DSR inline regulator with gauge
PMI 10 degree bottomline adapter
Double trigger frame
Tool-less field strip
One-year manufacturer's warranty |
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| The PMI Piranha EXT 2K3 is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 14 of 15 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Shutter, Spyder Xtra, Spyder Compact, Tippmann Model 98 |
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| Marker Setup: |
Piranha EXT 2k3, 12" All American barrel, Evolution II hopper, Dye Sticky 3 Grips |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Barrel first, as always. Electro hopper next. |
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| Strengths: |
This product is very well made and has a great company backing it up. |
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| Weaknesses: |
This marker is a standard blowback marker with all of the same quirks. |
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| Review: |
This marker is extremely well made and, if looks are important to you, this marker does not fail to please. Out of the box, this marker is as complete as it could ever really be. Comes stock at low pressure, flush rear cocking, a very good regulator for CO2 users and a rear velocity adjuster.
The marker runs at low pressure, approximately 350 psi. This is very good considering it is a standard open bolt, blowback marker. In practical terms this means you can use more kinds of paint then your friend can in his shutter because the lower gas pressure is easier on brittle shells (i.e. you get less breaks in the breech and/or in the barrel). This is possible due to the all new internals that PMI put in the 2k3 edition of the Piranha. The regulator is easy to adjust, however the guage goes up to 1500 psi. This is not a problem, but it does make fine tuning the pressure a bit of a hassle as the difference between 300psi and 400psi (the gun's optimal operating range) is only one seperation. The guage ought to only go up to 800psi because any pressure higher than that should never be on any paintball marker, no matter what it is.
The gun fires very smoothly, but I do not like the stock trigger frame. The frame is a polymer of some kind where I would have prefered an aluminum frame. PMI says these trigger frames are extremely durable, even more so than their old aluminum ones, explaining the switch in materials. The frame does feel very solid and I do not doubt the polymer's strength, I simply have a personal preference to a metal trigger frame.
Of particular note is the marker's stock barrel. It is only a stock barrel, have no hopes of anything else, but for what it is, I found the stock barrel to be a solid performer. |
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| Conclusion: |
An over all solid marker, great for beginners and intermediate players. I consider myself an intermediate to advanced player and I still feel comfortable behind this marker. It is a solid performer and I would recommend it over any other Spyder-like marker. |
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Menohl |
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Wednesday, July 14th, 2004 |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 9 of 14 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippmann 68 Special
Tippmann SL-68 II Pump
Tippmann Pro Carbine
Tippmann 98 Custom
Tippmann A-5 |
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| Marker Setup: |
Tippmann 98 Custom
GTA Inline Expansion Chamber
GTA Double Trigger
32* Star Fire Bolt
Madmann Spring Kit
J&J 14" Ceramic Barrel
Viewloader 12V Revolution w/ X-Board
JCS 6" Offset 3/8" Dovetail Sight Rail
Magnacraft 3-9X30 Illuminated Scope
Thunder Pig In-Line CO2 Gauge
JCS Combat Folding Stock w/RVA
32* Coiled Remote
PMI 20oz. CO2 Tank |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Gauge
New Reg |
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| Strengths: |
Looks like a Speedball Marker
Cheaper than most Speedball Markers. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Gauge
Reg
Flimsy |
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| Review: |
I'm a regular at my local field, and good friends with the owners. The field i play at has 30 Tippmann 98 Customs for rent, but they recently got a new business partner who bought 30 brand new PMI Piranha EXT 2k3'S for field rental as well.
The field has woodsball and speedball so the thought was that the tippy's would be rented to the woodsballers, and the Piranha's would be rented to the speedballers.
After 2 weeks of renting these markers the owners were overloaded with players returning to the pro-shack with problems with these markers.
Many of them had the exact same problem:
After 5 shots there's no velocity left - It was discovered that the Regs in these markers are pieces of junk. I personally spent hours with the owners trying to adjust these regs only to find that no matter which way you turned the adjustment screw nothing happened. We finally had to resort to disassembling the regs to discover that the valve pins would get stuck and have to be jarred loose so they could move when you adjusted the screw. This is a problem that has to be addressed somewhat often.
The gauges are pieces of junk - Several of the markers had defective gauges, they either read incorrectly, they break alltogether, or they leak. There was one marker that was brought in that was consistently leaking through the gauge, air was escaping though the gauge out the pinhole in the face cover. One of the younger refs made the mistake of putting tape over the pinhole thinking that it would stop the leak. After less than a minute, so much pressure built up in the gauge that the entire face blew off and made quite a loud bang. Everyone thought his marker had blown up or something.
Chopping paint - This one is 50/50 some people were managing to overshoot the hopper which is why they were chopping, but others were getting balls stuck in the feedneck and their paint was getting chopped. once they chopped a ball they couldn't shoot anything but lava until they completely cleaned the marker out. The barrel also had a tendency to be a sponge to broken paint and would have to be thoroughly cleaned and squeegeed before it would work properly again.
The marker was flimsy - People were getting a little to excited and dropping the markers, and it was a good bet that once they dropped it, it was acting up. This occurred in 8 out of 10 cases, and the markers would have to be stripped and given a good once over before they would seem to work correctly again.
When people didn't suffer these problems the markers seemed to work as well as any other marker, but in my opinion when over 15 of 30 markers had problems right out of the box and didn't work until hours of work was spent fixing them, and they are breaking quite often when they get juggled around a little, there's a serious design or manufacture problem.
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| Conclusion: |
I really can't recommend this marker to a new player. It requires alot of work out of the box to get working right, and it requires alot of upkeep to keep it working well. If you don't know this marker inside and out and you don't baby this marker you will spend more time working on it than playing with it. |
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| Rating: |
| 4 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, July 14th, 2004 at 7:57 am PST |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 6 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
never used a pmi befor |
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| Marker Setup: |
9v VL hopper, 14oz co2 tank, and the rest is stock |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
9v hopper (if you shoot fast) 12v would be to fast for this gun
barrel (the stock barrel is a stock...)
and w/e els you want.. |
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| Strengths: |
good looking gun, very light, small, not to loud. |
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| Weaknesses: |
not to much weaknesses in this gun, maybe the handle but thats about it |
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| Review: |
This is a very good gun. I play with it alot and dont mind being seen with it by my friends who have "autocockers" and better guns then me b.c I know this gun wont let me down. I also like the new "Venturi Anti Chop Bolt" it very good and so far out of 1,000 paintballs only like 2 poped, so thats good results for a gun that's under $200. |
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| Conclusion: |
If your limit is $200 for a gun, this would be the gun to get, not only it looks good with its 2k3 body but it also performs good. |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| Only tested | 5 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 months |
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Similar
Products Used: |
black dragun led, kingman e-99 |
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Black dragun Led with 14 inch teardrop |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
a new barrel if you want
12 volt revy
new regulator
maybe a dye sticky grip
compressed air or CO2 whatever your willing to spend(go with compressed if you can) |
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| Strengths: |
Everything is good
the new 2003 body is amazing. Dont let pictures fool you cause in real life this thing is awesome
12 inch ported barrel Fairly accurate
fast-consistantly shoots 10 bps or over
does not chop
comes with drop forward
comes with gauge |
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| Weaknesses: |
nothing that I could find |
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| Conclusion: |
Get this gun it is amazing. Dont get ripped off i know where to get this gun for 280$ canadian. Thats really cheap. |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Friday, January 28th, 2005 at 4:50 am PST |
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Period of
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| 1 year | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Imagine and Tippman 98 custom |
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| Marker Setup: |
PMI Piranha EXT 2K3 Evil Driver Barrel and Soon to be Evil Detonator Reg |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
See Marker setup |
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| Strengths: |
See the review |
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| Weaknesses: |
See the review |
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| Review: |
When I first got this gun, I was excited to go out and test it right away. To my surprise, the stock barrel performed very well [compared to other stock barrels] After I used it in a couple of games though the reg stopped working. I was disappointed, but pmi just sent me a new regulator in just a 9 days. I anti siphoned my tank, and the new regulator worked perfectly. Overall, this is a great rec marker, and is well worth the money. It out performed my friends tippman, and a pmi gti. This is the perfect gun for a rec player. P.S. The imagine is also good, and you will like either. And if you are using C02, anti siphon your tank. |
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This is a great marker for rec players, and I recommend it to anyone who wants to spend as little as $90. This is a great marker for the money, and you will not be disappointed. |
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Period of
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| 2 years | 2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Well ive used other spyders and piranhas but i have shot many high end guns |
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05 vision shocker, Halo B, 68/4500 cf Pure Energy air tank
This setup was: the EXT, PE reg not stock one Evil Pipe 12 oz. co2 (this was my old gun setup last year until i moved up)
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
barrel, reg if u want get eforce and bolt but if u dont its not needed i guess |
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| Strengths: |
Dependability
It can be upped |
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| Weaknesses: |
Weight i hate heavy guns but thats just me
ROF
Stock reg-bad 4 orings
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This was my gun for 2 years and now that i have gave it to my brother i though i can write a review abot it. This thing took abuse, i never lubed the bolt and now its scratched to crap but its still running strong. The plastic trigger was terrible IMO, so i got the metal one and it didnt make much diference, just looked better. It was an alright gun but leaked alot of times due to the reg, but overall it was good. |
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| Conclusion: |
Good gun if your 6 months into pball or so, but if you keep playing speedball you will realize you cant keep this thing forever 8/10 |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Closest thing I've used much would be rental m98's |
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| Marker Setup: |
Piranha 2K3 EXT
Replaced the stock guage with a bob long 600psi micro
14" Evil Pipe
20oz co2, anti-syphon+on/off
200rnd hopper |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
A barrel would be the first thing I suggest, the stock barrel is ok, but it's not the best.
A new guage for the reg is also very usefull. The stock one goes way too high. |
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| Strengths: |
Very good LP out of the box. Good ROF out of the box. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Stock guage sucks. Safety spring not held in when grip is off, easily lost. |
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| Review: |
This marker runs at 350psi with no mods. Thats just awesome. I haven't been able to get it to chop paint. It just pinches it. Jam clears as soon as you pull back on the cocking knob. I was unfortunate to get a gun with a stripped trigger frame screw. PMI's customer service fixed it right away and all is well. This gun runs fine on co2 once you get an anti-syphon. The reg is decent, not as good as a palmer, but good enough. The stock barrel is awesome compared to pretty much any other stock barrel. It's still not as good as almost any aftermarket though.
Sofar I only have three complaints about this gun. One, the ram air chamber on the front sticks up so far it doesn't give much clearance between it and the barrel. If you aren't careful it will scratch a lovely ring on your barrel. Second, I would like a bigger cocking knob, my fat fingers have a hard time gripping the current one with gloves on. Third, the guage that comes with it goes up to 1500psi with marks every 100psi. PMI recommends 500psi, most people I've seen can get theirs down to 350 with no sweat. This isn't really important, it would just be nice to see a 550-600psi guage come stock. |
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For under $200 you really can't go wrong with a piranha. If you have the extra $20 and can, I'd say get the eforce ext pro. If you can't use electric for one reason or another, go with regular ext pro. This gun is perfect for newbs who don't want to spend hundreds getting their gun up to par. Great gun, equal customer service from PMI.
I am giving this gun a 9 simply because there is some room for improvment. |
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Period of
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| 1 year | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippman 98 (similar pricerange)
Spyder Imagine, Xtra
VL Prodigy Egrip, Triton |
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| Marker Setup: |
Pirahna EXT Pro, 14" barrel, everything else is stock |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Electronic hopper, e-grip, new spring set |
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| Strengths: |
Everything.... |
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Very little... |
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To start with, this marker by is the best value for the money. Straight out of the box this thing can keep up with most markers on the field. The barrel is extra long and shoots really straight. It comes with a ton of extras (just read the product description). I haven't seen any major problems. The stock springs were quit weak and only shot @ about 175fps. So I spent $9 and got a set of 4. Problem solved....I only got a second barrel because the field I bought mine at through it in for free. I haven't added an electronic hopper yet, but I will when I can. This marker is fast and the extra feed would keep me from chopping. (Like I said, this thing is fast.) I will be adding an e-grip, but this thing doesn't need it. (I'm just getting one ultra cheap. |
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Buy it. For $150 this will out perform ANY marker under $500.00 with a few CHEAP upgrades. |
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Se1Fer |
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Wednesday, December 22nd, 2004 |
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Period of
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| Only tested | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Piranha PRo G3 |
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Evil Omen (black)
Pipe Kit
Crossfire A1r
Evo Hopper |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
None |
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| Strengths: |
Fast
Very reliable
Affordable |
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| Weaknesses: |
Chops balls but that happens |
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| Review: |
Not a bad gun i sold my piece of crap STS on ebay for $100 and bought this cool gun which is 1000000 times better. Im surprised this gun is better thna the STS i mean they look the same cept for the drop forrward, gas gauge, etc so i give it a 9 keep makin more good guns PMI :) |
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Not a bad gun get it if ur lookin for a fairly decent gun |
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| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, December 22nd, 2004 at 10:44 am PST |
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Azain |
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Wednesday, November 5th, 2003 |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Any Piranha |
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Piranha EXT 2k3,14" Razzor,blue 12vlt revie,paintball wizard cradle, and a 45ci 3000psi nitro tank |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Barrel, Hopper and nitro |
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| Strengths: |
Looks, Speed, Quiet, no chopping, compact! |
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Um none really just plastic trigger! |
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| Review: |
Well i waited a llong time for this gun to come in the mail they were back ordered when i got it! This was my first real paintball gun! The first thing I really noticed when I first shot with it was how quiet it was. This gun makes hardly any noise. The next thing is that its really comfortable to hold. Its compact which is nice, and light so its easy to run with.
Weight: About 2 pounds, around 5 with paint and air
Length:Around 10 inchs without a barrel
Quietness: 8
Workmanshilp: 9
Custumer service: 10
consistancy : 7
Speed: 12 bps with a fast finger
Reliability: 10 (hasn't let me down yet)
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As a intermediate player I like this gun. It is easy to fix, and maintain. As long as you treat her right she'll treat you right also. I named her Liz. If you need a new gun and are familiar with the sport (not a newbie) then this gun is worth it. If your not going to play paintball too much then you should get a cheaper gun. |
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