RT ule & a classic automag ( predates stars system, i will always have a mag)
using a 68 CU3000 aci tank a revy and different barrels...
Increased speed , smooth easy to get rhythm with
Slop in the trigger both sideways & long pull before it fires.
Okay I have had prolonged usage of two separate benchmark double triggers. First one was on my old Micromag & it really made a difference in comparison to a stock micromag trigger pull. The slop doesn't bug me so I think thats a non-issue personally. The one I currently have on my classic has served me very well over the last year. I havent short stroked with one yet. Bottom line I got better & longer rates of fire due to this trigger. I wont compare it to a logic ( having never shot one) or an intelliframe ( have tested) because there is a large difference in both quality & price. Logic frames generally run $130 + and intelliframes are $90. Could it be better? .. Yea but does it work as a decent after-market upgrade.. I believe that it does
When I look at the frame versus the cost ( I haven't payed over $45 for one & both were brand new). I feel that they are well worth the money if you don't have the money of just don't want to spend the money for an intelliframe or Logic frame but want to upgrade some then the benchmark is a decent choice.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, July 8th, 2004 at 10:01 pm PST
68 mag classic
polished no rise body
benchy dbl finger trigger frame
black ice reg
32 degrees flame dropforward
48/3k crossfire tank
light trigger pull
lots of trigger pull
wow. i'm the first one to write a review on this.
first off, don't buy this frame. unless you like a slow gun and lots of trigger pull. I bought this frame for 40 bux and was not worth it. I would save for an intelliframe or different kind of trigger frame for a mag. not this one. i am not satisfied with it at all. I cannot believe how much trigger pull is on this. it's not good.
get a different mag frame. do not waste your money. Just my opinion.
Really long pull
Lots of side-to-side play
My friend got a second Mag on eBay, and this came with it. He opted for the Intelliframe, though, sold me this frame for $9, and told me I could give it back to him and he'd give me the $9 if I didn't like it. I figured what the hell, a double trigger for $9, can't go wrong...
When I got it, it wiggled side to side more than I'd like, but that's alright. If you're holding your finger on a trigger, you don't really notice that. Might make it a bit hard to walk or something, but who the hell can walk a Minimag with an AIR valve anyway.
So I got home and put it on my Minimag. The first thing that I noticed is it doesn't have a hole in the bottom of the trigger guard. If you've got a stock Minimag trigger frame, take a look at the bottom of the guard - you'll see a small hole, a little over 1/8" in diameter. It's great for sticking an allen wrench through to get at the screw so you can take the Mag apart. The Benchmark frame doesn't have that, and I don't have a set of fold out wrenches, not the L-shaped kind with a short end and a long end. I managed to tighten the screw up by putting the wrench at an odd angle; it worked alright, but was a bit annoying. Two strikes against it, and I didn't even have the thing installed yet.
Once it was on, I picked my Mag up and aimed at around a little. This was like switching from Dye Stickies to a brick. AGD made such a comfortable grip for my Mag, and Benchmark gave me a rounded rectangle with little rectangles of hard, rubber/plastic/something screwed to the sides. Not so good. It also seemed like it'd be a hell of a long pull, but Mags are always a bit odd in the trigger area when not gassed up.
So I go downstairs and grab my air tank, drop some Autolube in the adaptor (maintain your Mag, folks), and gas up the Minimag out on the deck. Not a lot of slack before it hits the trigger rod, nice. I squeeze the trigger and dry fire the Mag over the deck, and it strikes me then just how long a pull this thing has. Look at the picture and you begin to get an idea. All the way back to the frame, which is almost an inch of pull at the bottom. I pull it a couple more times, and then start experimenting. Just how far back do I need to pull it? Turns out, pretty much all the way. It doesn't take that far back to get it to fire, really, but you risk short stroking way too much if you don't squeeze the trigger fully.
I got through maybe 15/20 shots before I realized it wasn't going to happen. I wanted my stock frame back. So I cycled the marker a couple more times to get all the Autolube through. Usually I have some fun doing that... Squeeze off a couple shots at trees, scare my girlfriend with it by blowing her hair back, and try to remind myself to not to use all my air. Not this time. It's not nearly as crisp as it felt before, and it's such a long pull I think this might slow down my firing more than anything.
My stock frame's back on my Minimag now, and it seems like it'll stay that way until I can afford an Intelliframe or Y-Grip. The Benchmark frame isn't worth the $9 to me, I can't imagine paying $50 for it. I'd be pretty pissed if I had. If someone gave me a Benchmark frame for free, well, it'd still be a spare part for if my stock trigger ever broke. I prefer the stock frame: it's not that the Benchmark one sucks, it's just not as good as what I got with my marker.
Don't bother with it. If you get a deal on it like I did, go ahead and give it a try, you might like the double trigger enough to deal with some of the shortcomings of the frame. But you'll want to wear some gloves, that grip isn't so comfortable.
I'll stick with the stock trigger frame, though, and if you like the crispness of the Mag's trigger, you'll do the same.
x-valve black p/f benchmark doubble trigger kapp fore grip and trigger frame grips pure energy 68/4500 soon to get a kapp cradle and on off and agd trigger frame
A solid frame and good feel in hand
Trigger pull is long, difficult to find the sweet spot, and incredibly sloppy.
I have used this for a little over a year originally with the classic valve and it was fine then when I got the x-valve it began to really irritate me. To see if it was just me I checked out some one else with the same basic setup but with an agd trigger frame and it was way smoother and was not hard at all to find the sweet spot.
Logic Vert Frame - much better and highly reccommended
Classic Automag with Logic Vert Frame, AGD Flatline tank
Trigger pull is very light. Frame is well made. Safety works well.
Trigger pull is very long. See below.
I bought the marker used and the Benchy came with it. I was going to upgrade to an Intelliframe but instead decided the Logic frame would be better. The length of pull on the Benchmark is 1" while the Logic is 1/4"! I shortstroked often with the Benchmark and Lvl 10. Now I never do.
Save your money for a different double trigger frame. I reccommend the Logic over the Intelliframe or Y-Grip since the Logic has adjustable fore and aft trigger stops for the shortest possible trigger pull.
14inch All american
Benchmark double trigger
Shocktech drop forward
Dye Sticky Grips
long pull....its very long but the smoothness kinda makes up for it....
Except for the fact that the trigger pull is very long i love this frame....i easily get off about 9-10 shots a second...it soudns weird but this frame with a longer pull i can get off more shots than the short stock frame for the minimag....i actually give this frame a good review.
If u need a new frame get it....but id rather have an intelliframe....the frame is pretty good no...i havent had any problems yet...