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Worr Game Products Sniper Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
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Average Rating: |
9.2 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$385 |
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•Vertical feed design
•Closed bolt pump action
•45 Frame w/ 45 grip
•Autococker® Marker threaded barrel
•New style bolt w/ pull pin
•Stainless steel cocking & pump rod
•Volumizer pump guide
•Velocity adjuster
•Ball detent |
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| The Worr Game Products Sniper is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore. |
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SynTek |
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Monday, June 21st, 2004 |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| 6 months | 12 of 17 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
PGP, both the older version and the new one.
SL68 |
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| Marker Setup: |
Automag with black body
Dye single trigger grip frame w/ Dye grips
CCM Drop foreward
88/4k HPA tank
Freak Kit
RT internals |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Of course the standard drop foreward and HPA. Probably would want a Freak kit or similar barrel system to make the best use of the marker. |
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| Strengths: |
Accuraccy, reliability, ease of use. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Limited rate of fire. |
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| Review: |
Of all the pump guns I have used in the past I would say that the Sniper would definitly be at the top of my list for a number of reasons.
For starters, the performance of the marker is phenominal. It acieves great consistancy and thus great accuraccy. The pump action is very short and smooth, requiring very little effort to pump and therefore increasing the potential rate of fire. In the time I have used it, it has required no maintence beyond adjustment of the velocity every so often as I switch paint brands and such, and seems to require little more than a few drops of oil and a word of thanks after a long day of play to keep it working.
Secondly the body mill work and styling is just stunning for it's price. I am glad to see them finally putting decorative milling and durable annodized finishing on the classic sniper, giving it a much needed upgrade in appearance. It gives the reliable low tech marker a very high tech look.
Of course with any marker there are a few down points to it. For those of us who traditionally play with a semi, the use of a pump marker requires a bit of a change of plans. With an attainable rate of fire far lower than the average even low end semi, you must rely more on snap shooting skills and pinpoint shots to acieve victory. This of course cannot be counted against the marker as it was intended to be pumped, but it's firepower could be improved by the addition of an auto-trigger (which I myself do not like, but others may want). The other downside is the weight of the marker, which over the short term of a game or so isn't bad at all, but I could imagine if playing a very long game in a scenario type setting you could become rather fatigued by it. |
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All in all, the marker is a very solid choice in the pump category. Any of its weaknesses are eaisly excusable since they are generally intentional and expected of a pump. I would recomend this marker to anyone looking to starting pump play due to it's reasonable price, exceptional performance and above average looks. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 9 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Products Used: |
only pump i have ever used other than this was a rental at one of the local fields. |
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| Marker Setup: |
2003 wgp pump
- ergo regulator
- 14 inch knockout barrel
- wgp torpedo drop with on/off
- 68/4500 carbon fiber nitro tank |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
a better barrel and a good reg. |
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| Strengths: |
- accurate
- easy pumping
- upgradeable |
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| Weaknesses: |
sure its heavy for a pump, but the accuracy makes up for it. |
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| Review: |
i have not shot a more accurate gun. granted I have not shot every gun out there, but i would take my pump against any high end semi (not in a tournament of course). excellent overall gun after you get a new barrel. paint spread is very tight and i have not broken a ball with the gun since ive had it. This gun is also very easy to pump. if you ever get sick of having a pump, you dont have to fork out another 400 bucks for a new gun, simply buy a pneumatics kit and your good to go. anything you can do to a cocker you can do to this. awesome gun. |
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| Conclusion: |
i would reccomend this product to anyone who wants a pump gun. if you are looking for something that can be upgraded or inerchangeable between semi and pump, get this gun. it has taught me to be patient when taking shots and its fun to gog people.
you will not be dissapointed with the accuracy of this gun. |
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pimpers |
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Friday, February 11th, 2005 |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 5 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Products Used: |
tested a vert feed
alias intimidator |
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| Marker Setup: |
2004 black wgp sniper 2
16" smart parts freak kit
cp on/off asa
torpedo regulator
3000/47 air tank |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
1) Barrel - the stock barrel is good but a new barrel defintally makes alot of difference
2) Regulator - keeps the pressure the same for better concictency. |
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| Strengths: |
Accuracy!
Reliability
Milling
Sturdy feeling |
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| Weaknesses: |
......Shots slow..... |
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| Review: |
alright, if you love going into the middle of a battle rushing the front bunker or 50 this gun is NOT for you. if you love sitting to the side and picking off the people stated above, this gun is perfect. it is a beauty when you shoot it. it shoots straight and conistent and blows your mind away. with my setup my sniper 2 will put a ball in a straight line for at least 60 feet and it groups them perfectly. the only bad side to this gun is that it shoots slow, which is of course due to the fact that it is a pump. |
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| Conclusion: |
Great gun if you are willing to put a couple hundred into it in the aftermarket. Nearly a perfect gun for any paintball sniper and I highly reccommend it to anyone out there interested in pumps. If I could i would give it a 12 |
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Period of
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| 6 months | 5 of 10 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
VSC Phantom |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Reg, bottomline setup |
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| Strengths: |
Very easy to pump, very accurate, can convert to an autococker if desired |
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| Weaknesses: |
It is heavier then any other pump marker |
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| Review: |
I have had the gun for 6 months now and it has not failed me once. It is very easy to pump, and very accurate. The Sniper 2 may be a bit heavier then any other pump marker, but it is definitely as accurate and reliable as any other pump marker i've seen. Just make sure you oil and clean your gun and your good. |
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| Conclusion: |
I give it a 10 because there is absolutly nothing bad at all about this gun. All you need is air, and a hopper and your good to go! |
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m_0r30 |
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Saturday, February 7th, 2004 |
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Period of
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| 6 months | 4 of 9 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
None... |
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| Marker Setup: |
2k3 Sniper
Worrblade Bolt
16in. JT 2 piece bolt
Black Magic Reg
Kapp 15 Degree ASA
Kapp delrin ball detent
System X-Ten Drop foward
2k3 Dye Sticky grip
P.E. 68ci 5000psi Nitro Tank
Dye 68ci Rhino Cover
P.E. 48ci 3000psi Nitro Tank |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
1.New Barrel (I would recommend a JT, i know three people with them and they love it) 2.New Bolt
3.New Regulator
4.Nitrogen (i would never recomend anyone C02 it will mess up your autococker) |
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| Strengths: |
1.Accuracy
2.Distance
3.It's an autococker |
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| Weaknesses: |
1. Weight
2. Stock Barrel
3.Bolt |
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| Review: |
Over all i love this gun. The only thing i really don't like about the gun that i found is the weight. If this gun were as light as a phantom and just as accurate as a sniper, i would love it. The one thing i love about this gun is that it's an autococker. Everything on this gun can be replaced by a better part. You can have a completely customized gun that no one has. If you ever break anything on this gun, replacement parts are very easy to find. Another thing that i like about this is that you can play semi, my gun use to be a semi but then i bought a pump kit cause a bunch of my friends are pump players. Since then i haven't really gone back to playing semi. I actually noticed that i am a better pump player than i am with semi. |
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Well i typed a lot in my review so i'll keep this short. Over all this is a very well built gun. You don't have to upgrade a single thing on this gun. The gun shoots accurate right out of the box, i would highly recomend this gun to anyone. The only thing is that it takes a very thorough understanding of how autocockers work. If you have no clue how they work you will run into problems. Good Gun!!! |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| 3 months | 4 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
All older Sheridan Based Pumps and Stock Class Markers |
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| Marker Setup: |
Bottom Line
Regulator |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Barrel or Barrel Kit |
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| Strengths: |
Decent airsmiths should be able to fix any issues that may come up. |
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| Weaknesses: |
The inital cost of trying to get it to work properly. |
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| Review: |
Normally, any paintball gun review will actually entail the user to take the gun to the field and use it in a game or two before writing a review.
I will make the Sniper the exception.
I am very disappointed in the performance and cost factors involved with first buying a Sniper out of the box all the way to getting it running decently for rec use.
First is the cost of the Sniper itself: $279 (MSRP)
Then, as I learned too late, you need a regulator installed: ~ $79 and up
Don’t forget the stainless steel hose: $15
You “need” to use HPA: Crossfire 47ci tank, $65 (don’t forget the tank cover and nipple cap. Add another $20)
Add the cost of an ASA adapter: $25
(optional and not added to the cost below: Cost of a drop forward, another $25)
And if this is your first Autococker, as you will need to replace the stock barrel, add the cost of a decent barrel or barrel kit. I had chosen the Evil Pipe Kit: $189
Don’t forget to use an electro hopper! Cheap plastic hoppers (such as PMI’s) are fine for the short term but gets annoying to pump players in need to have paint feed in the tube and not air.
Since I already have a 12-volt Revy, I did not add it to the cost below. I also own a 68ci HPA tank but I find it really uncomfortable to use on pump guns, such as my Sheridan Long Barrel. But a smaller tank is fine for such pumps, at least it is for me. So that is the only reason why I purchased the Crossfire tank.
Cost so far: $672
So now I have to adjust the regulator and maybe I need a spring kit. This is the second day of me not playing but making adjustments. Frankly, for this price you are better off buying something else, such as a Palmer’s Houndstooth or even classic Sheridans.
However, if you already have a barrel kit for Autocockers, a spare regulator in your parts box, an electro hopper, and time and patience this should be a pretty decent pump gun.
Pros:
* The pump action decent.
* After market parts are readily available.
* Any decent air-smith can (or at least should be able to) work on your Sniper in the event of real issues.
* Multiple choices in barrels from various companies.
* It weighs less then some classic brass pumps.
Cons:
* Cost factors, in my opinion, are on the high side.
* Getting it to run the first time decently is going to take some time.
* The stupid questions you do get from the noobs are just “out there”.
I give the WGP Sniper, 4 out of 10. |
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In conclusion, unless you already have Autococker barrels and other spare parts readily on hand, I do recommend anyone buying their first pump gun to buy something else. This gun is not very newbie friendly and unless you are willing to take the time and money, you will be stuck with a fancy paperweight.
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Period of
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| Only tested | 3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
phantom, SL68, |
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| Marker Setup: |
phantom wiht frantom II barrel and gas thru stock with 45 trigger frame |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
the autococker product line provides practically limitless upgrade paths in the event that you wish to customise this marker, pick whatever suits you best. |
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| Strengths: |
Accurate
Durable
Can be converted to semi
Easy to clean as all autocockers are |
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| Weaknesses: |
Heavy
Stiff pump arm
Inability to convert to stock
Almost necessary to use air
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Though this product rates high in terms of precision, it lacks what all pump guns need most, versatility. It is a definite downfall for it to not be able to convert to stock class. All autocockers can be converted to pump if you buy a kit, so it really isn't very special in that catagory. I would suggest that someone purchase a higher end autococker and then a pump kit, instead of trying to send this one down the upgrade path, it makes more sense and when you move away from pump to semi, it will be easier for you. On the flip side, if your more like me, then you'll want to get a more easily modified marker like a phantom (my praise for that marker is unending) and keep playing pump. |
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This gun definetely delivers in terms of accuracy, but it is a little pricy and definetly not as versitle as it should be for the price (conversion to semi was an advantage). I would suggest getting a different marker. |
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Period of
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| 6 months | 3 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
CCI VSC45
PGP2 |
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| Marker Setup: |
02 RH feed pump-cocker
50rd / 15rd custom stick feed w/ballgate*
3.5/4oz.
sp A.A. / jj 14" cer. |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
- Barrel that fits the paint you shoot well
- 50rd hopper or stickfeed*
- 4oz co2
- Something to remove the S. E. Grin from your face |
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| Strengths: |
- Simple & reliable
- Shoots long and straight
- Easy to find everything you need / want for it. |
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| Weaknesses: |
- Value (better to buy a autococker and a pump-kit)
- no ball detent. (duhh) |
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well mine is a '02 RH feed autococker with a pump kit. this was my first pump and changed the way i play for the better. like running faster when a dog is chasing you, the fact that you need to pump forces you to play harder and smarter. this marker is perfect for someone who wants to try pump play because it feels like a semi, looks like a semi and you can just stick your normal tank and hopper on it for now.
If you start with the autococker & pump kit you can switch from pump to semi if you don't like it. or sell it to buy a Phantom if you love it. it is my personal favorite pump for speedball.
* Stick Feed: if you have a right hand feed cocker/sniper you can get close to a stock class feed system.
the most common type is a 3/4" cpvc 90* elbow hose clamped over the ball feed. insert a piece of cpvc and a "ball gate" (phantom part#45).
But, since the tube is pointed right at my eye I prefer this method:
a 3/4" cpvc "tee" hose clamped over the ball feed. on the tee (pointing at me) i put a small "nipple" of 3/4 brass tube about 2" long and capped it with part#45 ball gate. on the other side of the tee i screwed in (phantom part#44) a 15round threaded ball tube(under $12) with a 3/4" cpvc cap on the end. this way the stick feed points down the barrel but you fill it from the back.
* After 6 months: Still no problems with the pump-cocker, It has been switched between semi & pump 5 times and everything is good. Since I started playing with the "sniper" I have saved over $250 in paint and 9volts's in 6months. Enough to pay for my Phantom, and allow me to use the sniper as a loaner.*
[EDIT 12/3/07]
Over the 2007 season I found a few games to pull out the old Sniper. Over the years I have aquired a Freak barrel, adj reg & a nice winchester hopper. I only use the Sniper in open games (non-pump) and cold weather. In pump games it almost feel cheety to use the Sniper, its ROF and pinpoint accuracy is high. Though it does not fit my play style (I prefer 12g's & sidetubes) it is my "almost-semi" gun used in situations where I need a little more capacity...and no mechanical headaches. |
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I suggest to go the used cocker and pump kit route.
i give it an 7 (sniperII) i give it a 9 (pump cocker) |
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| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Monday, December 3rd, 2007 at 1:59 pm PST |
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Period of
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| 2 years | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Products Used: |
This was pretty-much my first 'Cocker turned Sniper, but I've used several pumps. Maveric, Trracer, Brass Eagle barf-quality pumps, Tippmann SL68-II, PGP. |
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1998 RH feed Autococker
Benchmark .45 Gripframe
Extreme Rage titanium roller trigger/ sear set
AKA Nickel-plated Lightning Bolt
CCM Pump Kit - Black
Palmer's Fatty Stabilizer Reg.
Palmer's Low Turbulance Valve
LAPCO 18" Snapshot, 12" Bigshot, and J&J 16" One-piece Ceramic for barrels
LAPCO "T" stock
LAPCO offset sight rail
ADCO E-dot sight
Brass Eagle 45-round hopper
20 oz CO2 |
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Recommended
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A 'Cocker (or Sniper, as it were) is the tinker's dream. Literally any individual part of this marker is offered in at least a dozen other configurations, ranging from color to functionality. To dispell a common myth - the WGP style body is not at all a hard thing to work on - even when introducing it's auto-cocking components - but we're not here to talk about that. We're here to hash pump play.
Ups in Order of Reccomendation:
Barrel - a must to suit the marker to your style of play.
Regulator - Even on my pre 2k Sniper - the goal and to an extent, the calling of this design is low pressure. Palmers and AKALMP make awesome regulators that will make other-worldly accuracy possible with their incredible consistancy. A must in my book.
Gripframe - I like solid steel when I can get it, and if not, solid aluminum will suffice. Benchmark has some great gripframes for the Sniper that add both comfort and durability.
Trigger Group - If you haven't felt a roller-trigger/ sear set, you are puishing your trigger finger.
Pump Kit - Not quite as necessary, but CCM and WhiteWolf Airsmithing have awesome lightweight, smooth-cycling pump kits that feel great in the hands. My preference lead me toward going down to the local hardware store and buying a spring to make the resistance a little stiffer on my CCM pump kit, as well as hold the bolt/ pump arm forward. |
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| Strengths: |
Accurate, durable/ superior quality, incredible selection of upgrades, easy to maintain. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Paint-to-barrel match/ detents. |
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So, what is there to say that hasn't already been said? Sniper pumps are among the absolute best pumps around. They always have, and they always will. Their craftsmanship is stellar in comparison to other markers, both in durability and quality, which means they are very survivable. My marker is 9 years old and is solid and tight, ready for casual play or rugged scenarios at a moment's notice.
Sniper pumps are incredibly accurate as well. Every game I am pleased to be smoothly slapping paint onto exposed hoppers and goggles at distances well over 100 feet. Now, this is partly due to aftermarket support for this great marker, but therein is another strength - a lot of people support this marker's design, so it's performance can be tuned to any and everyone's tastes. Variety aside, the high-quality build of the Sniper allows for very consistant handling of pressures, which creates night unto (if not the) best accuracy out there.
Aslo, Snipers are easy as heck to maintain. They are very logically built, and while being made with precision, are not at all too delicate or too complicated. Their straightforward and simple design goes a long way in making the markers both tough and maintenance-friendly.
I've played speedball and been the front-runner at the 50, sometimes even the other team's 40 before I get taken out. And, without fail, people gawk and exclaim, "OMG you have a pump!?" You really don't need X bps to rack up eliminations or keep people sweating you when nearly every single shot goes exactly where you aim it. My preference is woodsball, and with my setup, I can usually lock down two or three opponents with some fancy-quick snap-shooting due to the Sniper's accuracy and surprisingly quick rate of fire (for those skilled users out there). At days' end - I never have to say that my marker broke or wouldn't work, and I almost always walk off the field with 2 to 1 or 3 to one eliminations in my favor - sometimes more.
Now, onto the *ahem* 'weakness,' it is and it isn't. One really needs to have an assortment of barrels for this closed-bolt marker, because if you don't have the right match, you will get roll-outs, or frequent breaks. However, the ability to fine-tune the Sniper with so many aftermarket barrels is actually one of it's best strengths, and a large contributor to it's legendary accuracy. Consequently, it will cost the serious player more money in barrels, but it will also give him or her a finer edge in the field. |
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Used many pumps, but when I want the 'cat's meow' of performance, I always come back to my Sniper, hands down. |
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an0maly |
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Saturday, January 14th, 2006 |
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Period of
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| More than 5 years | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Hammer, Many Sniper 2's, Many Phantoms, Carter Buzzard |
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05' Super Stock, CCM adjustable feed neck, CP rail, micro line kit, 14" Freak, Empire B Reloader /// Sniper 2, red-orange-yellow fade, KAPP internals, ANS venturi bolt, 10" DYE Boomstick, 14" FREAK |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Bolt, New Barrel |
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| Strengths: |
ACCURATE, Balls fly far, not bad on price |
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No easy stock class conversion, no auto-fire pumping |
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When i started playing, it was pump only semi's hadent really taken off yet. I used many pump guns but my favorite of the all is the Sniper 2.
What can i say? This gun rocks. Buy a new bolt and barrel and you have one insanely accurate gun, and thats one of the main things that pumps all about right? Precision!
Playing at the local field i could shoot the string the objects were hanging from in the firing range. On the field i could shoot through thin cracks and small holes, it was great!
Plus, the Sniper 2 is the father of the autococker so you know its quality.
The weaknesses are: If you are going to play stock, it uses up 12 gram CO2 in about 20 shots, and you might have to make you own stock conversion kit with a plumbing pipe. Also, it doesn't have an auto-trigger like the Phantoms do. Auto-trigger is when you hold the trigger, and each time you pump, a ball shoots, allowing more rapid and steady fire.
If you got some extra cash and you want a top of the line Sniper 2, check out the SS25 by Chipley Custom Machine (CCM). It has everything u want including auto-trigger standard for about 500$. Also a stock conversion kit available at an extra $50.
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I love my Sniper 2, and everyone that has or has had one loves theirs too. Buy this gun if you want to rule pump. |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Saturday, January 14th, 2006 at 10:24 pm PST |
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