Orracle, nightkast, outkast, various other cockers but this thing is sweet
Halo B, Freak Kit, Custom Grips, WGP Reg
For the price this gun is amazing. I currently have a Orracle and I bought this one as a back up just to see how good it is compared to the orracle since they look so much alike and I have found that this thing matches the Orracle in so many ways that I feel like an idiot for spending so much on my Orracle. WGP makes awesome Cockers but this Drallions is by far the best cocker in it's price range. I have put a little over 3,000 rounds through it without a single break but if you do need an eye, dragun is about to release an eye for it soon. The gun comes with the slot milled up the side for the eye wires and it comes with the eye cover so it's all ready to go. Some one asked me if I could put an E-Blade on this thing... Why? It comes stock fully electronic.
PS. There is one complaint, the grips are ok but you might want to dye them or paint them because the completely clear look went out with the N64 and old Game Boys.
While this marker may not be perfect, compared to the other markers in it's price range this thing is beyond a 10. I give it a 10 for offering so much at such a low price. I recommend this gun to anyone who is in the market for a Cocker with quality but doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for it.
most of your "comon" brand name cockers and e-cockers, ive also built a few cockers for my personal use
Silver/Gold fade drallion
installed eye board from tes
modified tes trigger
slik nylatron bolt with pin
freeflow pump arm
freeflow beaver tail
boblong torpedo reg
shocktech fgp front reg
race smc valve (almost exactly the same but allows for easier mounting of lpr)
powerlyte scepter barrel
freeflow valve/hammer set (ive also polished out the lower tube a bit to improve cycling)
Depending on what your looking for in your marker you may want to change every thing or nothing at all.
Only Upgrade i would say is a necesity is the T board, it fixes the draguns lacking electronics.
The drallion comes stock with parts that are equal in quality and function to your average wgp type cocker.
It comes with fair quality parts and requires little upgradeing to perform well
Draguns Electronics are a bit lacking for their e-cockers
Let me say that if your looking at buying this gun because you think that it will shoot just as well as a high end e-blade/race gun you will probobly be disapointed. If your looking for a gun that will shoot very well and far better then anything in its price range then youve definatly stumbled apon the right marker.
Ok let me go over my basic thoughs and impressions of the marker
Function on stock components
Basicly Dragun did an excelnt job setting up this gun mechanicaly .
In stock configuration (as i purchased it off ebay), the gun is more then capable of holding its own with any of the other lower end e-cockers out there.
Its stock components are pretty good.
I REALY liked the barrel set that came with the gun, i think its every bit as good as the cp set i used to use exclusively.
The lpr, ram, and bolt lack refinement, but get the job done admirably up to around 14bps. If one realy needs to be able to shoot faster then this the first thing your gonna want to do is change the bolt, then the ram, THEN the lpr.
The smc solenoid valve is an excelent choice, its one of the quicker avaiable (a version is used in the matrix and other e-cockers) its also pretty energy conservant. The only reason i changed to the race valve is the stock Dralli valve hit my new lpr.
There only two real function detracter i found in my Dralli. The stock Hpr its flow is to limited for a gun that can cycle as fast as this one can (though at low rates its not bad).
The second is the universal board that dragun uses in all its guns. This board dosent allow for enough adjustment of the guns cycling process. Also the Eye logic used in this board works great for your average open bolt marker, but is useless on a closed bolt gun (It only checks to see if there is an open chamber during the initial firing sequance, when a cocker is a full battery, Instead of when the bolt is retracted and a ball is being loaded into the chamber).
Function on upgraded components
This is where the Drallion REALY takes a lead over the Dragunflys. with the inclusion of the new parts in installed, im getting cycling rates that rival my Raced FreeFlow and custom e-cocker.
If your gonna install a new lpr youll need to move your solenoid valve around a bit or do what i did and get another mounting bracket, cause the stock unit gets in the way of the lpr.
Im sure some people find the Drallions smoth jellybean lines, sort of un-impresive, since it dosent have huge cuts and rents and look like its missing 2/3s of the gun LOL.
But me (and a number of other people i know) find the guns simple but elegant body milling a nice change from the curant fad of cut to pieces guns.
The anodising I have on my Dralli is pretty well executed, theres some flaws but not bad and i think the choice of colors is very nice, it has just enough chrome to set it off, withough making it look gaudy.
hehe heres the real shocker (and probobly gonna convince alot of people im nutz) i LIKE the clear grip plates, meh go figgure.
The only bad for this is i dont like the way the all black barrel looked on my gun, if i had a solid color it would probobly be ok.
The Drallis feal and balance are excelent (its a bit on the heavy side but i dont mind it). With a revi/richo and a 45/4500 installed its balance point is just forward of trigger, and right in the middle of your hands, right where you want it.
I have rather large hands so the draguns slightly larger then average grips fit me just fine, I think they maybe a bit large for some people of smaller stature.
I honestly have had any yet, ive been playing with my FreeFlow lately. Ill update this when i get a chance to use the Drallion in a game situation.
Drallis are basic e-cockers so just about any cocker tech can and will work on them. they are also very easy to work on onesself.
Draguns service line/department has disapeared in recent months though they arnt out of business so well have to wait and see what happens there.
well thats about it, ill probobly supliment this when i get a bit more experiance with the gun, i wanted to write a review on it now to keep from letting myself forget what the gun was like before i added all the bits and pieces i have planed.
This Marker is hands down an EXCELENT value for the money, Your not gonna get a marker thats better unelss you plunk down another 300 atleast.
If your not realy up on e-cockers this guns simplicity will be appreciated more then i have, and it will make you much happier then if you have to mess with all the hassels and things that blades and races offer.
overall the gun has some flaws but they are so minor that one cant realy complain at all about them.
I think for the price this gun deserves a 10 argue if you like.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, February 25th, 2005 at 10:49 am PST
12 inch stiffi barrel
04 cocker reg and bottom line
crossfire 68/3000 tank
shocktech rat 3:16 valve
black worr blade
white orry bolt
blue sto ram
ss pump arm
wgp blue ball detent
soon to come:
halo B, reg cover and cp on/off
you will need:
Hard to walk trigger
i just got my drallion and i have to say that this thing is amazing for only 290 bucks new. trigger frame is fast, but to take advantage of it you need a new trigger. I would say if you want a fast cocker type gun but dont have the money go with this because you get speed, accuracy, and cheap price all in one little package. it is very air effiecent but kinda loud. you will have to make some minor adjustments when you get it but what gun dont you have to do that to? I have had around 6 chop with this gun using a standard evo but since then i have bought a halo and i will post results. EDIT* I have been working on the gun and have made it the best it can be, with the worr blade this thing fly's, i traded the halo for a evo 2 but an buying a halo again(lol). I love this gun
If you are looking for a good gun for cheap then i say get this and it is all autococker compatible. *Edit* if you are going to be using this gun bone stock get a jam bolt, i cannot stress this enough, if you dont it will chop
10 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, November 6th, 2004 at 12:36 pm PST
Regulator and Dropforward.
Backblock and Bolt to make higher cycle speeds.
HALO B or dont buy the gun.
-The gun is FAST.
-Accuracy is very good
-Operation is smooth and quiet
-Chops or Jams at least once per outing
-The Regulator and Drop forward.
This is a really great gun. I paid $280 bucks for the gun, barrel kit, derlin bolt, and adjustable trigger on Ebay. Thats NEW. The gun did need to be timed when i got it, but that took a mere 5 minutes. It is alot better than the WGP guns you can get for the price, and i plan on buying another gun, it will either be a Dragun TES or Dragun The One. The company sells very good products for good prices.
The gun shot very well, the paintballs hit the same spot each time, the ropes of paint it shoots make people hide behind their bunkers. My team uses high end cockers and angels, and they wouldnt suspect that i low-balled on my gun, because it preforms so well. I am planning on eblading it in the future, and it will be just like an Orracle! It looks just like one, and plays like one too.
This gun is great. Shoots fast, smooth, and accurate. The only reason it gets a 9 is because of the reg and drop forward hose issue, where they have a hose thread that only fits their products. (You can get an apadter) Otherwise its great!
Blue AIM68 Regulator w/ mini gauge
Chrome Phat Barrel System w/4 bore sizes and 3 lengths
Chrome WGP Drop Forward w/ on/off
Black Macroline and Chrome Macroline Elbows
Barrel or Barrel Kit. Regulator. Whatever else it doesn' t come with. Trigger.
Price. Electro at 20bps. Quietness. Accuracy. Looks amazing. Easy to time.
The trigger has some play. Chops if you don't set the dwell higher.
I got this in March shipped direct from the manufacturer through a dealer. I didn't come with a barrel, regulator, or drop forward. Some people see this as a bad thing. I see it as a good thing. Nobody buys a nice marker like this and keeps the crappy barrel they throw on there. The next thing people usually upgrade is the stock regulator to one that can cycle as quick at the electro frame. I enjoyed picking out the parts I wanted to make my marker personal. Then you get exactly what you want in the colors you want. Some setups being sold come with the dragun reg and bottomline hookup - decent but how long are you going to use that setup? 75% gun looks and works great, but the rest lags behind. By leaving these things off, they kept the cost to an insanely low price.
I mentioned the quietness and accuracy seem good. My setup is extremely quiet and accurate. However, I never used it with a different setup so I can only base my opinion on mine. I let my brother use it for a game (usually uses a spyder DX w/ empire twister) and he was impressed at how he could pick people off so easily. His barrel was accurate to begin with. That's why having a barrel kit is nice - paint to barrel match makes a big difference.
He did have a couple chops though. I had a couple chops the first time I used it too because I left the dwell at zero. I forgot to tell him to set it higher too. Plus, I'm used to having an EYE like on my TES and not having to even think about short stroking.
Another cause of chopping, I believe, is the trigger. My TES trigger pull is short and quick. I recommend putting in $20 for a zentram. That and setting the dwell higher will reduce/eliminate chops. Once the EYE comes out though you can rake the heck out if without worry.
The gun can shoot up to 20bps - faster than 95% of the markers out there. The only competitors in this price range are the other OGI/Draguns. Otherwise, you're looking at $1000+ Angels.
So, you combine the speed and accuracy (and looks) of this marker and few can equal it. And those that can cost 3x the price.
I had no problems timing this gun and it was my first Autococker marker.
I'm not sure why, but somebody gave this gun a 7 because no EYE. Are you for real? How many guns come with an EYE stock - especially at this price? Do you see people giving them lower scores because of it? It didn't come with a Halo Hopper either. Why not knock it down a couple more points. At least it is EYE ready.
I would get this gun soon because Worr might be suing them for copying the orracle body. They will probably end up discontinuing this look. There is no other marker out there that gives as much bang for your buck as far as I'm concerned. It has surpassed my expectations. I really don't care if you get one or not. I'm just happy I have one. The less people that have one, the less competitiion I have.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, October 4th, 2004 at 7:11 am PST
This gun is very nice looking, as you can see it looks like the Orracle. This gun has great speed!!! 20bps, on semi-mode. This gun is an all round great buy. The first time i shot it it was a beast and shot fast. But before you go out and play make sure that you have your dwell setting set at atleast 5 or else you will chop do to the bcak block not staying back long enough. Go out and get one if your Smart!!!
Superstock -much better quality but more expensive
WGP prostock-its a mech but its much better built
03m-its also mech but its better built
2002 WGP cocker, belsales 3-way, stabalizer reg, dye hinge frame and stickies, 15* adapt, dye ultralite barrel, crossfire tank and reloader hopper
Wow, where do I start. Mod the trigger, replace the body, internals, front pneumatics, well just about everything if you can afford it, but if you can afford it you wouldn't be looking at this in the first place.
Electronic autococker for under $500
looks from a distance
accurate like all autocockers
Poor quality, machining
No tech support or warranty
Its made by Dragun
I previously gave this gun a 1 for good reason. GUNS THAT DON'T WORK GET A 1. I had one that didn't work, then another, finally the third time I got one that worked. I deleted that review and am writing a new one because a bunch of high school kids thought I was speaking blasphemy when I said anything bad about their beloved Dragun company. Time to face the music kids, Dragun is going under. There is no Dragun Tech support, the warranties are no longer valid, so if you get this gun, your on your own. When I got this NEW gun I had to go round and round trying to get a hold of the guy I bought it from, to get in touch with Dragun, to get it working.
Once I finally (3 months later and $15 shipping and handling) got a working gun I was pretty impressed. It is fast and accurate. It is as accurate as any autococker. The switch on the trigger is pretty light, much lighter than the stock switch on spider esp frames. I know you can put lighter 20g switches on it but I'm not worried about it. Mainly because there is no return other than the button or switch. No spring, no magnet. Some may say that's a good thing, I think its cheap and sloppy. The trigger is incredibly sloppy. No kidding, the trigger will move left to right farther than it will move forward and backward. I made some simple mods to help with this. It's awkward to walk because there is very little room inside the trigger guard, and the trigger is really fat. I ground it down to make it more comfortable.
Now many people compare this to e-bales and it performs similar but with a serious lack of quality. Most people just want to know how it compares to other autocockers and why its so much cheaper. Here's why:
1. The electronics. No eeprom (memory), so it doesn't remember your settings when you turn it off. Also its all set up and ready to go for an eye, but it doesn't work even if you get the eye(at least that's what I hear). So you have to buy an aftermarket board and eye.
2. The paint is not anodizing, its like a dust finish. NOT a powder coat it scratches to easy. Also mine had scratches on it when it was NEW. The fade has some blemishes, it looks good from a distance but up close you can notice.
3. Poor machining. Lots of sharp edges. The sear was very rough, so much that the gun had trouble re-cocking until I buffed it. Threading for the barrel, ball detent, velocity adjuster is also sharp. When I removed the velocity adjuster it actually sheared metal off. The ball detent itself also has sharp edges when you remove it. The ball detent is large and it will hit the bolt if the bolt hasn't been ground down.
4. Other. Its heavy because they didn't try very hard when they designed it to make it lighter. Very noticeable compared to a superstock. I already talked about the sloppy trigger. The grips are bad, and they don't have any replacements as far as I know. One of mine broke where the screw goes in and I had to super glue it.
I know I shouldn't expect the quality of a $1000 gun for a fraction of the cost; but these are just simple things that could easily be fixed with a very small increase in the cost of the gun. I also know there are several upgrades like the t-board, and it is autococker compatible so you can replace pretty much everything. But buy the time I replace everything I could have just bought a superstock or something else to begin with.
This is a good performing gun, especially for the price. I gave it a 7 only becuase of this. Unfortunately it was made by Dragun so there is no tech support or warranty. There is also a lack of quality. If you want a really nice gun and have the money spend the money on a better gun. If you don't have the money this one is pretty good but you will eventually make up the difference in price on upgrades.
7 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, September 1st, 2005 at 9:59 am PST
Drallion 2004 Autococker
Smart Parts Teardrop Barrel
System X Drop Forward
Halo TSA Loader
Eye(when it comes out)
Good marker for price
This gun has really been a great upgrade for me. I used to have just a stock semi marker, but now that I am in college and playing in tournaments, I realized that I needed to upgrade and I am not disappointed with my choice. This gun is very accurate and with the regulator upgrade, gas consumption is minimized. The only thing that hinders this gun from reaching its full potential is not having an eye system. I can get it going pretty fast, but going to fast causes chops.
This gun is a great product for your money. Instead of going out and dropping a thousand dollars on an ebladed gun, get this one and the eye upgrade and you won't be disappointed.
Warped Dark TImmy
Cp short reg
Cp asa on/off
shocktech supa fly bolt
egg(need a halo)
Fast if you can get it shooting
No eye's don't fully cock and just a cocker
I play front and i have learned that i should of saved my money($250) and bought a ION or Wraith. I still have mine and have been trying to sell it for $50 at a local feild for about 2 weeks after i got it (been having it for a year)after 2 weeks of getting lit up b/c i was the last one out and my gun works like a POS i could only 1 ball it and when i tried walking i would chop like a moe in my last game with this gun i took off my barrel put a ball in and started blowing them at people.maybe this was just mine but i will never go back to the feild with tah thing again.
Buy a ION i did and i was happy for a while,
4 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, August 11th, 2005 at 12:18 am PST
Dragunfly mechanical, worr blade, freak kit, 88 4500 pure energy, Halo B, hand made drop, Jam bolt, JT Flex IZE, JT Propack
You need to get a barrel, and a bevertail, you also need the anti-chop eye
It looks good, shoots fast, and is autococker compatibale
It dosent come with the anti-chop eye
It looks good
it shoots well
its made by Dragun Empire
its an autococker based gun
its cheeper than a e-blade
this may not be really cool to some but it has a full auto function
The grip is horrible
it dosent come with the anti-chop eye, its drilled for it and has the cover and all, but its not there. I guess if you wanted you could easily put a e-blad on it. This would replace the grip frame and solve the grip problem.
Although its understandable, it dosent come with a barrel
and it dosent come with a bevertail, if it came with a barrel though the gun would cost you more. And plus your going to upgrade to a different barrel any way right?
If it came with the anti-chop eye it would be great, the eye will be an up grade you can get in the beginning months to next year (2004). The grip problem will be solved soon when Dragun comes out with the rubber grips. They should be out soon. I am going to give it a seven cuz they still havent figured out what a good grip frame is and it dosent come with the anit-chop eye. If the eye was in it then I would give it a 9. If it came with the eye and had the rubber grips I would give it a 10. All in all its a great gun if your not looking to spend almost a grand for a e-blad autococker or Worr blade
7 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, December 4th, 2003 at 11:40 am PST