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Period of Product Use:
Less than a month
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Dragun TES w/ ONE kit. AIM low pressure reg and drop. Crossfire N2.
Very easy to install. Frame is solid and lite
Wish the grip frame was smaller, but I can handle it.
I put the ONE kit on my TES in about ten minutes. Although the instructions aren't that great it was still fairly easy to figure it out. The hardest thing, which wasn't really all that hard, was to take the eye board out of my TES frame and put it in the ONE frame so that the anti chop eye would work. We put an EVO II on the gun and let it rip. I'm telling you I have never personally seen a gun shoot this fast before. This gun railed without chopping a ball at all. It looked like there was a rope coming out of my gun all the way to the target I was shooting. The balls came out so fast, it was incredible. If you are going to use the TES or the ONE kit, you better save up for balls because you will be using a lot of them. The TES is fast enough by itself. The ONE kit just reduces the recoil a bit and lightens the gun a little since there is no solenoid. I love the fact that you never have to worry about recocking since it is always cocked. It has a very smooth operation and fairly quiet. I really wish I would've bought just the ONE gun instead of the TES and the ONE kit. Spent more than necessary but I don't regret it. I love this setup. I have had two autocockers and as much as I liked those guns I don't think they compare to this one.
If you are going to use this you need to get a really good reg. It needs to be able to recharge fast enough to keep up with your fingers. The AIM reg I am using is working very good. This is a very low pressure system. I had my psi at 150 and was shooting 306 fps on the chrono. I highly recommend this system. Absolutely worth the money.
Extra stuff that people might find important:
3 rd burst (who needs it? Only works when eye board is not on the frame.)
full auto (who needs it? Only works when the eye board is not on the frame.)
10 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2004 at 7:57 pm PST
Spyder TL with "the one kit" installed. 14" j&j performance pro 1 barrel. Evolution II hopper, 12 oz co2 tank.
extremly fast rate of fire. Looks great and performs well.
Dragun fails to give you a decent installation guide, no operation guide.
I first started looking at "the one kit" to upgrade my rate of fire so that I could compete with the electronic markers. It would cost a lot more to buy the parts separately (expansion chamber, regulator, drop foward, and electronic trigger frame). Some other trigger frames have the 3-6 shot burst and full auto which this trigger frame doesn't have. But after realizing that I can shoot 13bps easily with this frame on semi, there really isn't any advantage over a full auto frame. Also you can't use full auto at most paintball fields anyway. Also this converts your spyder into a fully pnumatic gun. which means there is no moving parts in the trigger frame itself except for the trigger button and a valve that lets air to the rear of your gun when you fire to push the bolt foward. The default spyder has a spring that does this. Whats the point of making it pnumatic, well you can get crazy cycle speeds. The angel and intimadator guns use this cocking system. When I first installed the kit the front screw leaked a bit, which was easily fixed with some teflon tape. It took me awhile to get my gun to fire because the kit didnt come with operation instructions. So I pretty much had to mess around with all of the adjustments on the regulator - expansion chamber to get the right air flow to all of the parts. after figuring out that the allen bold on the end of the regulator determined how much air flowed to the valve that the trigger actuates I was in business. Also the allen bolt on the expansion chamber determines how much air enters the gun. One thing I didnt like about the kit was that the trigger frame is plastic, It looks metal in the pictures. Installing the kit was kind of a hastle. Im not sure about other spyders but I had to file off some of the aluminum right above where the regulator goes in the gun. the regulator was to tall and was hitting part of the gun making it unable to go into the hole. I took a rasp and filed off just a hair. Was an easy fix, I just thought it was strange considering the gun that "the one kit" is from is a spyder copy.
Nice system. Turns your spyder into a threat against those high dollar guns. If you have a spyder and are looking to upgrade to a electronic gun put one of these on it.
Completly Electro pneumatic
Can easily do 30BPS
Looks TIGHT...VERY sleek
This is an AMAZING piece of work!!!!! Once you buy this and set it up you will be welcomed to the world of "HIGH END" markers. This will turn you into a completly electro pneumatic marker. It's EXACTLY the same as an intimidator. The only thing different about how it works is it just uses one spring to return the ram/bolt rather than air like a Timmy. So this uses a little less air than a Timmy even. I was amazed when I set it up and fired it the 1st time. It is SO amazingly quiet. There is no more worry about your Spyder sounding like a FU*IN CANON! This is INSANLY quiet. The Speed on this is CRAZY!! Absolutly insane!
I used to get embarassed when my Spyder would "burp" on the field because of the noise. Sence the marker is ALWAYS cocked even when there is no air in it , it doesn't burp. The bolt just wiggles a little bit and it quietly goes pssst. The only time it will do this is when you run out of air. You prolly will have to mod the VA that it comes with because it get caught up on the top tube. Its an easy fix just take 150grit sand paper to the top of it.
You dont have to have a marker with TONS of moving parts in it now! No striker, no spring, no buffer none of that nonsence. Just a ram and a little spring. YES thats it! Yup, thats less weight too!
This is also nice because it comes with its own regulator which is ok. I wouldnt reccomend using the drop because its pretty small and for somepeople (including me) it cross threads your tanks threads which isn't cool at all.
It has a LED screen which is easy to read and has tons of modes and dwell settings and everything.
WOW is all I can say. I got this for $170. I would have payed $600 for it thats how worth it is.
Now when people say what marker you have you can say its a Timmy. Its not a Spyder its just a Spyder body!!!
Plastic tigger frame (durrable though)
Have to mod the VA
other than that NOTHING
heavy trig. pull (easy fix w/ a switch mod take about 10 min)
This is an AMAZING piece of work! LOVE IT!
10 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, August 18th, 2004 at 11:15 am PST
Any Electronic Frame for spyder/clones
Higher Ended airRams such as Matrix/Timmy
Custom Body - 6160 Aluminum (Milled and Powdercoated Black to Yellow Fade)
The One Kit
DYE 12" Titanium Barrel Back with 4 interchangeable tips
Shocktech Drop with 32* OnOff
Shocktech SupaFly Delrin Bolt (Top Cock version)
MacDev Gladiator Inline Reg
Steel Braided Hose with Brass fittings (nickle plated)
Eye to be installed soon with custom eye cover
Diablo Hellfire has been shot through this marker only.
No longer a open-bolt blowback
Achievable 16 BPS
slight drop off under long duration of firei
Mildly uncomfortable sized frame,
Overall this is nothing but my toy marker, the one I carry for others to use if there marker goes down. It started as a project just for the s*** and giggles aspect of building something that no one else had locally. I was impressed with the gang when I met them at MGO 2004, and felt the time they spent with me as a player and as a tech was very honest and sincere.not just trying to blow smoke. The gun works very nicely and I have occasions where it is my choice for practice for the day, but I still spend most of my time shooting my 2 angels. I do like the "cocker" style of shooting that I get from the One kit on the spyder clone.and it handles very different to someone who is used to lobbing paint from an angel/mag style of play.
If you have the money and you dont want to invest at least $550 for a new gun, this is a fantastic choice to go with.
Hope this was helpful, and if you have any Qs or Comms.email me directly.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, August 6th, 2004 at 11:17 pm PST
tippmann e-bolt which is nice but not as fast and complicated
spyder victor with one kit, cp reg, shocktech drop and asa, modified bolt ,50 gram switch, evo 2, sp progressive.
makes the gun electro-pneumatic, more consistent, more accurate, quieter.
stock lpr , hpr and bottomline, lpr is not very consistent neither is the hpr
didnt come with instructions, had to file the body where vertical adapter meets so it could fit in, have to take the bolt pin out and put in one that fits in the ram. it was nice to shoot after it was installed. id say it was worth the wait and money. probably the best upgrade you can do to your spyder.
Id say if you have the money and really want to upgrade your spyder to a better gun then defenetly get this.
tl+ soon to be custom body
the one kit
kapp twisted autococker cocking rod
check it full force bolt
jj ceramic soon to be freak
mostly the kit replaces everything else
will recock every time guranted even with no air
there are no weaknesses to this unless you dont have a GOOD electronic hopper.
This kit is the best thing i have ever bought i didnt expect it to be this good or fast. It can out shoot almost any gun out there with rate of fire of 30bps. The frame is able to have full auto burst and semi. It will mke your gun into a low pressure operation which will cause less chops. This frame is able to take anti chop eyes. If you do decide to buy this kit which i suggest i also suggest a force fed loader such as the halo b or eggii.
if you want to mke our gun extremly reliable extremly fast quieter nd just overall better at everything i suggest you get this. Also if you get this kit seal off the screw holding the low pressure regultor to the gun or ou will find it leaks but not a problemn ta all can be solved in about 2 mins. This will turn even the cheapest of spyder into a great tournament level gun
10 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, July 1st, 2004 at 1:26 pm PST
With this ROF:
WDP - A4s and Speeds
La Soya Intimidators
SP 2004 Shockers
TES, but the TES its a sear tripper
The One Kit
Kingman Spyder TL powerfeed frame
14" Freak junior
Halo B Clear
ROF 30 BPS
Easy to install
Dragun Empire Support
Once you turn it off you have to reset the values.
This kit turns your spyder/clone into a fully pneumatic marker, just the same as a Timmy or an Angel. But it will blow them all away when you compare prices. Throw this Kit into the cheapest spyder (around $50) and youŽll have a tourney ready marker thats capable fo shooting 30 BPS for under $300. All the other upgrades youŽll have to put it in any marker(air system, loader (Halo recomended, Good Barrel,etc) soI didnt mention them.
With the kit I installed I was able to out shoot a HALO B for the first time ever, thats more than 22-23 BPS and shooting it without paint this thing was cycling at 27-30 BPS( I had an upgraded microswitch that helped with the trigger bounce). I know its not tourney legal but I just wanted to see how fast it really was. With the stock microswitch I was able to max it at 19-21BPS walking the trigger.
There was no noticeable shoot down at 22BPS and the strings of paint where on top of each other.
I would highly recommend this Kit to anyone that has a spyder/clone and wants to upgrade his current marker. YouŽll save a lot of money that can be used to get a Halo, Freak barrel, nitro,etc Trust me you will not regret it? Even though it has some minor weaknesses, I give it a 10 because of the price
The One Kit
AKA Lightning Bolt
Palmer Fatty Regulator
CIP Universal Mount on/off
280fps at aprox 220psi
Light, easy to install, ROF, Always cocked, relatively inexpensive
Big Grip, Settings reset when turned off, had to file down body for VA
I was really looking for an electronic frame to complete my Low Pressure setup, then I ran into this. what better than getting an electronic frame and going all pneumatic. Pretty simple to insall if you know how to take apart a spyder. Good consistant shots with a better reg.
Great Product for the money, I am glad I did this. Very low pressure, great consistancy. Ref at the local PB field soiled himself shooting my SPYDER and he owns a timmy!
I've used spyders, cockers, and mags but this is my first electro-pneumatic
T.E.S. black/red with "One Kit"
system-x drop forward
stock intimidator delrin bolt
low-rise clamp feed neck (i think it's 2k2 threaded...)
Aim 68 regulator
Radio Shack switch
light weight, looks awesome
difficult to swap the eye board from T.E.S. into One kit
Well i caved in finally and decided to purchase a T.E.S. and One Kit for the sole purpose of building a Dragun One gun. First off let me start off by saying buying the two things separately will save you a lot of MONEY! I've had an original spyder compact-a for about 8 years now (that's a testament to the great quality of kingman guns) Needless to say, i've left it mechanical for all these years. Anyway, i purchased the T.E.S. off eBay for $192 out the door (shipping included). Yes, so together both items ran around $372... people are buying just the One gun for $344!!! So what??? Well i just pretty much bought 2 electric guns for the price of 1 because i installed the One Kit onto the TES and i was left with an electronic grip frame, a regulator, a drop forward, and a lot of spare parts (valve, hammer, etc...) so then i took those extra parts and put them on my old spyder and voila! TWO brand new guns... i am pure genius. But i ended up upgrading pretty much every part on my TES... so i still have all these cool parts leftover. Anyway, i strongly suggest that if you have an old spyder, then you do things this way, it's such a better deal than just buying The One Gun.
Anyway, on to the review... well i can't write much about the gun because i don't have any air. As soon as i get some, i'll let ya know of any quirks and updates. I can tell ya that this gun LOOKS like it's gonna kick butt.
Buy it, it's so worth every penny.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, July 5th, 2004 at 5:04 pm PST
Excellent upgrade for any spyder/clone. The board has OSIRIS technology nuff said.
Preparation and Installation
Very easy to install, it took me less than 30 minutes. Before you install the kit be sure to lube up both of the regs(HPR&LPR). I use lube gel from radio shack and mix some gold cup oil in to make some slick lube. Strip down your gun til all you got left is the body, detent, and feedneck. Slide in the new valve, pin, cupseal,and spring. Install the new VA w/LPR. Replace your old bolt pin with the one included. Install the main spring, ram, bolt and ram cap(lube the ram). Screw on the frame and connect the hoses to the LPR and ram cap. Lastly screw on the reg and drop.
First time I shot paint with my gun was at my friends house who sells paintball stuff. He just bought a lasoya timmy and after shooting my gun he was totally amazed with it. Now he wants one. First time at the field was great, its so easy to unload with it. Lots of people were just staring at my gun trying to figure out what it was, and after they saw me rip on it they were even more confused. Once I told them what it was and how much I paid for it their jaws dropped. One guy even ditched his angel and bought a T1 instead. shoots so fast your gonna need at least a Z-boared EGG. After some upgrades I can dryfire 30bps and shoot a consistent 15-17bps without shootdown. After playing with this kit my kills have gone up and gained more respect on the field.
Worth every penny. Buy it if you wanna shoot alot of paint fast
9 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, September 4th, 2004 at 7:10 pm PST