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Worr Game Products Autococker Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
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Average Rating: |
9.3 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$385 |
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Features:
- Cut down cocking block with shortened high flow bolt.
- One piece 3 way.
- STO trigger plate and trigger spring.
- Carbon fiber 45 frame.
- Pneumatic Shroud
- Inline regulator. |
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| Product Availability | |
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| The Worr Game Products Autococker is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore. |
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Period of
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| 2 years | 20 of 20 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Spyder and Spyder clones. Tippmann 98 |
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| Marker Setup: |
2k WGP vert autococker
12" DYE boomstick
WGP hinge
ANS front pneumatics kit
ANS GX phase II reg
15* ASA
Shocktech supa fly bolt
Kapp fx beaver tail
Sys X drop & on / off
Halo B w/ rip + Z code
68ci. 4500psi. Centerflag hyperflow 420 hpa.
68ci. 3000psi. Crossfire hpa.
Stock valve, hammer & springs |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Barrel
Hinge trigger
HALO
QEV's (can reduce trigger pull by almost 1/2 on a mechanical)
The rest is up to you! |
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| Strengths: |
Many, many aftermarket upgrades. Do alot of research.
Read review. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Trigger pull takes a little practice.
Many, many aftermarket upgrades. Do alot of research. |
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Before you go out on the field sit at home while your watching t.v. and just pull the trigger. I suggest that you don't run gas through it as to avoid pissing off Mom, Wife, Girlfriend, whatever (especially if the cat is on her lap. You won't be laughing long, I guarantee it.) Forget all that stuff Grandpa taught you about "squeezing" the trigger (sorry Grandpa, your stories are full of crap anyway) PULL it all the way and RELEASE it all the way. If you hesitate with this trigger, you will chop paint. The best way to look at how the 'cocker works is to call it a pump action gun and say that all the hoses and stuff on the front block just pumps it for you. If you pull the trigger half way, thats like only pumping a pumper half way. After a little getting used to, you'll be shooting faster than you think (especially with a hinge trigger, could't imagine electronic).
First time on the field I was amazed by the shots I was making. The distance and accuracy gained over my previous open bolt blowback markers blew me away. With the exception of the barrel; I was using all stock parts back then. I was even using CO2 with a coil remote line and she performed well! Also I've noticed that the more my marker broke in, the better working and more responsive it got. The major factor in this guns consistency is the fact that its low pressure (factory set 300 psi) is gentile on the paintball (unless you short stroke the trigger) so you'll experience far fewer breaks even in cold weather. (Disclaimer: that's no excuse to go out and buy Brass Eagle paint, unless you're playing against me.) If you do break paint swabbing is easy! Pull the bolt and run swab through the receiver. Two seconds flat. Just don't loose your pull pin or you'll be looking for the right size twig to cram into the back block to hold the bolt in place. Far easier than unscrewing your barrel. Finding paintball tio fit your barrel properly is absolutely essential otherwise (because of the closed bolt firing position) small paintball will roll right the barrel because it's not in the breech (no detent) when ready to fire.
The market is flooded with upgraded components for this marker, which makes the upgrade search confusing and difficult. There are hoards of 'cocker users out there willing to give advice and tips to point you in the right direction. Just look for well written, in depth reviews and well spoken 'cocker users. My advice about upgrading a 'cocker is not to rush. I have never had a major problem with any of my stock parts. Open faced stock bolt is even great.
Problems I've had (exclude timing problems. I'll get to that later)
-Ball detent stuck due to broken paint shell and EVERY paintball broke thereafter. (didn't know much about 'cockers then and yelled at my buddies girlfriend because I thought she screwed the timing up... Sorry Jackie.)
-Pull pin lost 1or 2 of it's retainer bearings but it still worked well. Always keep a spare pull pin. They cost around $10 I think
-Ball detent bearing came loose and I think I shot it at somebody (hope it was Bob). I replaced it and have used it for years with no problem.
-3-way hissing / leaking. keep it lubricated but it usually corrects its self.
-Barrel comes loose during rapid fire sometimes, might just be my Boomstick.(a wrap w/ teflon tape solves that problem)
-Cocking rod comes loose during rapid fire if threads get oily. It's never fallen out.
-Hammer lug adjusts its self (that's because I've messed with it so much that the locktite has come loose, not the markers fault. Just wrapped it with teflon tape)
Thats all the problems I've had after 2.5-3 years of constant use.
Timing, the dreaded issue:
Timing is easy!! DON"T F#@K WITH IT!! It comes from the factory timed perfectly, the second you try to squeeze the last drop out of it is when you change it and screw it up (I speak with experience). The timing won't change its self unless you drop it off a cliff or something. These markers really are rugged (yes even the hoses). They only become delicate and unreliable when you take it upon yourself to tweak things here and there. Maintenance is easy, put a drop of Gold Cup oil in the 3-way now and then. Clean breach and barrel like you would with any other marker. Keep the cocking rod threads clean.
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Through my own research into upgrades, I've gained allot of knowledge into the works of this marker and many others. My conclusion is that this marker is one good enough to leave as is (considering new models come with hinge triggers) but diverse enough to be upgraded until it'll run with the best markers out there. An Autococker may leave speed and in some cases; if you tweak without thinking, reliability to be desired.
I'd never give a marker 10/10 unless it pressurized its own tank and shot Brass Eagles with the accuracy of a smart missile so it gets ................9/10 (don't mess with the timing)
Now I hope someone reads this. |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Sunday, March 6th, 2005 at 8:01 am PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 14 of 18 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
4 years |
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Tippman A-5 with R/T Trigger - This gun is good but I fell in love with Autocockers, the smooth quiet gliding pneumatics just made me have to buy one. Also, everyone else on my team has one minus our angel guy. |
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WGP 2003 Autococker - Black
Ronin Gear Katana Barrel
Palmer Pursuit 3-way
Palmer Pursuit Quick-Ram
Palmer Pursuit Mini-Rock
ANS Gen-X2 Inline Regulator
Orracle Black Delrin-Tipped Bolt
15* Black ASA |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
I would recommend, as your first upgrade, get the Orracle bolt. You might think that bolts don't improve your gun much, and in any other case that may be true. However, everyone knows that when you first start shooting a cocker, its hard to get the trigger pull down and if you don't get a quick, sharp pull, there goes a double feed. This Orracle bolt has a longer intake so it reduces short stroking. In fact, I have yet to short stroke mine in a case of paint. You can actually pull the trigger very slowly and it will still fire as if you pulled it fast. This will help with a more accurate shot due to more consistency since your not having to pull fast your gun is more stable and can stay on target.
Also, the ANS Gen-X2 Inline Reg, 68/45 ACI Bulldog 2 Nitro tank and a drop forward. |
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| Strengths: |
1. Out-of-the-box play.
2. Great looks.
3. Accuracy |
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| Weaknesses: |
1. Stock Bolt
2. Stock Barrel
3. Stock Inline Reg. |
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Key Strengths:
1. Out-of-the-box play.
Now, the first key strength to this marker is the fact that you can get it, bring it home or have it delivered, take it out of the box, hook up some air to it and start playing. This gun is ready to go, timed and everything straight from the factory.
2. Great Looks
One thing that can be said about markers today is that they are consistently getting more and more ridiculous looking. I understand a fade, a great gun, and custom milling go great together, but some people let these enticements make their decisions for them. With that said, one thing that has been true about all stock autocockers from the beginning is they aren't good lookers. I'm a guy and if an Autococker were at a bar, I wouldn't want to pick one up. WGP made a step in the right direction this year though. The cool milling and great anodizing job really makes these stocker cockers look like $400. That is what they cost right?
3. Accuracy
The final key strength is the accuracy of the gun right out of the box. The stock barrel is loud, yes, but that being said it is actually quite accurate. I don't think this ha anything to do with the actual stock barrel itself however. The simple fact that cockers use closed bolt operation and not a bolt flying around everywhere jerking your gun to timbuk-2 like lower end blow backs do makes it more accurate. Cockers allow you to keep your gun fixed on a certain point a lot easier than say spiders or less. Therefore, your shots are more consistent and therefore more accurate.
Key Weaknesses:
1. Stock Bolt:
The stock bolt is made of rolled aluminum foil, or at least thats what it fires like. Don't get me wrong, you can play with it out of the box, but your first upgrade should definitely be getting the orracle bolt. If they didn't sell stock guns with crap parts it wouldn't be as fun to buy them and upgrade them how you want em.
2. Stock Barrel:
Aside from this barrel being able to hit a barn door from 50 feet away, this thing is loud. I mean, cover your ears. Playing with this barrel for an extended period of time could lead to hardcore hearing loss.
3. Stock Reg:
This is actually not as much of a weakness as you might think. It can hang as a mediocre part with the best of the mediocre, average if you will. If you want more consistent airflow leading to better accuracy, a high flow adjustable reg is the way to go. See my recommended upgrades and my setup for more info on what to get. |
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This gun is definitely worth every penny. Some people have problems with stock cockers and I think it is because they try to change things on it too fast without understanding the gun. If you get this gun, study how it works, and learn for heaven's sake, you can make these guns contenders in no time. I have to give it an 8 though, simply due to the stock bolt and barrel. |
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| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Friday, March 28th, 2003 at 6:37 am PST |
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Wednesday, June 25th, 2003 |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Products Used: |
2k1 Cocker, 2k1 LCD Angel, Oracle Cocker, 2k1 Shocker, Impulse, automag |
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| Marker Setup: |
2003 WGP Cocker. Freak AA barrel |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Barrel, Grip. |
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All Metal Construction!! |
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| Weaknesses: |
Poor testing at the factory, poor quality control. |
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| Review: |
Negative aspects: On arrival, sealed straight from the factory, leaked down the barrel and in-line reg turned up to high.
I don't mind fixing the gun when I get it if it was a reasonable price but for the price this paintball equipment costs it should work perfectly.
Anyway on arrival I had to open up the internals and remove the valve. There was a small nick on the sealing face that I had to file down to stop the barrel leak. The inline reg was also turned up a bit too high requiring the velocity adjuster to be turned in quite far. I know this sounds the opposite with what you would expect. With a cocker the hammer and valve string have to be balanced to the operating pressure of the marker so when the pressure is turned up higher than what the springs require the hammer only has enough force to open the valve a small amount. (valve opening force increases with increased pressure behind it) This required the velocity adjuster to be screwed way in to compensate for the spring being too weak for the current pressure. When you get a case like this (using springs out of there pressure operating range) the velocity can fluctuate as much as +10 -30 fps(approx). This was solved by turning the in line reg down to 350psi.
Another problem with the stock cocker design is the pneumatics regulator. I wouldn't actually call this a regulator I would call it a reducer. An ideal regulator would input a range of pressures and output a constant pressure regardless of the input pressure. What the pneumatics "regulator" on the stock cocker does is just reduces the input pressure by a constant amount. So this means when you lower the inline reg pressure (which is an actual regulator) it also lowers the output from the pneumatics reg. This doesn’t mean that you have to upgrade your pneumatics reg it just is a point that can be improved on.
Ball dente: The ball dente screws in to far with can sometimes momentarily jam the bolt on the closing cycle. This can be fixed using a small o-ring as a spacer between the body and the ball dente.
One piece 3-way. The one piece three way that WGP quotes is nothing. It performs exactly the same at the 2k1 and 2k2 3-ways.
New rubber grip: This is actually lower quality then the houge grip that came with the 2k1 vert cocker. The sticker on the grip fell off before I even opened the box.
Different body jewel sticker: This is a lower quality sticker than on the 2k1 cocker it started to peal off after a few uses. It is not recessed as deep as on previous years. I wish paintball manufactures wouldn't use stickers on guns as it makes them look cheap (like toys) especially when they start to peal off.
new ram: One of the hose hookups now comes out of the front of the ram. I prefer the older style because it is more compact but I think they just switched to this style because it is cheaper to manufacture.
bolt: The bolt needs to have the tolerances tightened up. I had a grove for an o-ring machined into mine at the vary front where it seals with the barrel. This allows you to get better feed suction when timed properly.
Improvements:
I really like the fact that the gun no longer has a cheap plastic grip. I had a 2k1 vert cocker and after a year the frame started to crack. The 2k3 now comes stock with a hinge trigger. The trigger frame is very well made. The trigger has very little play and has a rear limiter adjustment. I personally prefer slide triggers but I am starting to like the hinge. The trigger frame also has a cheap looking sticker on it.
Bolt system: The bolt is the same as the 2k1 but instead has a ball bearing built in that holds the bolt pin in place. This is an improvement that produces less wear on the back block where the bolt pin meets it. This also probably reduced manufacturing costs for WGP because it is a simpler design. This saved costs and actually improved the gun.
Body polishing and anodizing: Looks better that the past bead blasted bodies, easier to clean. The under side of the body is not polished though. The inline reg has a better anodizing job than the 2k1. The 2k1 had a thin film on the inline. Everything on the gun has a quality anodized finish and is well polished except the pneumatics reg which is the same as the 2k1. It still has machining marks on it and is duller that the rest of the gun.
CO2 : works great with co2. I sold my nitro duck and am now using co2 because the difference is not worth the inconvenience of filling the HPA. I have used some guns that absolutely will not work right on co2 i.e. automag but the cocker works very well!
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I know this sounds like a bad review but relative to other paintball equipment the Autococker is the best gun you can get. I have tested and owned many other markers and the cocker is the only gun which I have sold an old one to buy a new one. I have constantly switched guns to try and find one that works and I have finally settled down on a cocker. The cocker is more accurate (not stock barrel) than other guns I have used (angel, automag, shocker, impulse, and other) It is a fun gun to shoot, quiet and very reliable when setup right. Cockers very rarely chop balls when you operate the trigger properly and when properly timed. A friend of mine has an oracle and it performs exactly the same as the stock 2003. Only difference beside looks is it has better regs, and is very easy to adjust/time but for any performance gains you theoretically may get (which are not noticeable) it is not worth the money. I am very happy with the 2003 cocker (relative to what else is out there) and I think it is the best gun you can get without wasting large amounts of money.
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, June 25th, 2003 at 3:06 pm PST |
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2003 |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 7 of 12 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippman 98 Custom, Tippman 98 Carbine, Kingman Spyder SL, Kingman Spyder Shutter |
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All-black 2K3 Autococker with a TKO Venturi Bolt, a 14" Dye Ultralite (black), and powered by a 68ci MaxFlo |
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Recommended
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Believe it or not, this marker is pretty unbelievable right out of the box. However, as with any new marker, the first upgrade to consider is the barrel. |
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The marker is *accurate*. It's a consistent, stable, sturdy, and accurate. And it has a *sickening* rate of fire. Imagine being able to put 30 shots out, in a 3 inch radius, at 100 feet, in about 2 seconds. It's absurdly fast (and that's with the stock hinge trigger setup). The sound it makes is distinctive, cool, and with the Dye barrel, very quiet (although seriously, it's pretty distinctive from the rest of the markers - people *do* hear it when you're the one coming after 'em.) It's less expensive than the super-high-end guns, but I'd qualify it as a super-high-end gun, and it's definitely upgradeable to ridiculous proportions. Oh yeah, and it looks ridiculously sweet. |
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It's a bit on the heavy side, but it can be balanced pretty nicely and it becomes less noticeable. It's also dauntingly complex... it's almost scary to try to take apart (in fact, I wouldn't recommend doing so unless you know what you're doing.) It's also a little more expensive than the rest, but it's really worth it. To be honest, these "bads" are really a stretch; it's just a fantastic marker. |
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Some people have this theory that if you're just getting your first marker, you should get a 98 custom or some inexpensive alternative, and then move up to a real marker after a year or so.
So here's my theory, and it's based on the fact that you've been playing, perhaps on and off, for a couple of years or more. You've borrowed, rented, stolen, whatever marker you could until now. You're ready to lay down some cash on your own gun, but you'd stil consider yourself relatively new to all of this. Why would you blow $200+ on a marker now, just to blow another $350+ in a year for another marker, and then blow *another* $500+ in another year or two? Save up, lay out a plan, get the cash together and get the gun you want right off the bat. It'll cost more initially, sure, but if you put $500 towards your marker now, you're going to save yourself many hundreds of dollars just a bit down the road. And your game will be a *lot* better (a gun does not a great player make, but it sure helps!)
This particular Autococker is a fantastic marker at a really great price. It's extemely upgradeable (and easily so), and is thoroughly enjoyable to play with. I would recommend it to anybody, from new to experienced, but I recognize that markers are all about personal preference, and if you prefer lighter, easy-to-maintain, and (probably) sturdier markers, maybe look at a Tippmann. I've heard that the A5 is pretty impressive that way.
Good luck, and have fun! |
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| Less than a month | 5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
4 years |
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2k1 Autococker
2k2 Autococker |
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2003 Vertical Feed Autococker
Freak Barrel
WGP Orracle Pneumatics
WGP Orracle Derlin Bolt
KAPP Twisted Cocking Rod
Shocktech Beaver Tail |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
commpressed air system
new pnuematics
bolt
freak barrel |
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Accuracy
light weight
reliable(if you take care of it)
inexpensive
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requires a lot of upgrades to make it equal to the high tech electro's out there. |
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This marker is awsome. I love it more than any other marker I have ever seen or shot! Its light, fast, and very accurate. With its closed bolt operation and with new set of pneumatics this is one of the quietest markers in the world. Also this is one of the best looking guns I have ever seen, and with a new set of chrome pneumatics and a chrome beaver-tail it will look so nice. It also comes in a selection of colors: Red, Blue, Green, and Black. All of the colors are a glossy finish and look very good. |
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I would recommend this marker to anyone with more than a year of paintball experience |
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| Only tested | 5 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
1 year |
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Spyder Xtra
Dark Angel IR3
Raven Nexion |
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WGP 2004 VF
Centerflag 90/3000 Fiber
Evolution 2 Loader
Evil Pipe Barrel Kit |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Barrel
Worrblade
Hopper |
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Accuracy
Dependibility
Quiet |
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Delicate
Sock Drop (leaked on mine)
Foregrip |
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Lets start with the +'s
+ This gun right out of the box shot accuratly and consistantly, however, with the stock barrel the accuracy is only for a few yards.... Ive seen a Tippman shoot further.
+ With a new Barrel and a Worrblade this gun would be a dream... ive heard others complain about the 3-way but i dont have a lot of experience with this and therefore i leave it alone
+ WGP makes all sorts of upgrades so if you dont like this gun, its only like 400 bucks--- compared to other high end guns its a bargain, Therefore you can just spec it out and make it the ultimate painting machine :P
And the -'s
- The guns Stock Drop forward leaks a bit...the pressure release hole on mine is a little too far back so the o-ring doesnt completely seal against the gun, no biggie but its a little disappointing
- The guns Trigger pull could be a little lighter, the gun requires a full 1/4 - 1/3 inch pull out of the box, but this is adjustable.
- The Feed tube on the top, Its a little wide for some hoppers, however, just stick some ducttape or something around the end of the feed tube if you have a problem to make a snug fit an you wont have a problem, or just buy a new tube. |
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-This gun is AWSOME for the price, anything you want to repair is repairable and or upgradeable, you can make it your own special gun. This way even if you dont like it its no biggie because you didnt blow your bank account and pull out a loan to get it.
- Out of the box its workable, meaning the day you get it all that it takes is a few minor adjustments (I.e. the velocity, maybe timing [ mine came timed ], or reg pressure) and ur set, GO PLAY!
- If you look back up, youll see the -'s of the gun....there all either imidiatly fixable or something that you would upgrade on jus about any gun anyway. SO, meaning if it were up to me i wouldnt even put those, but it's better for you to know exactly what your getting.
* If you want a high end gun that you can Spec out to all hell and spend your christmas money on then get this, if your not into mechanical things and dont like the optionability of cockers, then dont. But if you have 400 extra bucks and just want a all around gun, this is your baby right here : ). |
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| 2 years | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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3 years |
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I used a custom cocker. there was no name but it had a shocktech trigger frame dye dticky grip dye regulator and front block. ANS bolt. I fell in love with cockers after using it.
2003 cocker
1999cocker
2001 cocker
i have shot alot of em' |
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I own a 98 Cocker. I have many upgrades on it including dye trigger frame and sticky grip. I use a On Target Products venturi bold (Very nice my hand goes out to OTP on it)
I also use a Dye BoomStick 14 in. I also Have a Psycho Ballistics Drop Forward.
Not much eles I'm thinkin bout buying a Dye front block and a new regulator drop me a line if u have a good idea for one.
I also now have a 2001cocker withalos of good stuf like a ANS front block and good stuff like that.
And then there are the back ups---------------------------------------------------------
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Spyder aggresser-sweet gun-Nyte Stickk-Spirte E-Grip-Java volocity ajuster-
Tippmann modle 98-Dye X-cel 12 in
Prannha -Gx3
Hornet-pump
Update:i got a Gen x2 reg a x cel barrel and shocktech reg and a A.N.S mini ram. also i got a shockteck bomb 3 way. i also switched out my dye frame for a eclipse frame. i got shocktech drop as well which looks very nice. |
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Upgrades: |
Berral
Bolt
Trigger frams
grip
drop Forward
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accurate
nice ROF
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Heavy as hell-i dont care tho
stock trigger frame and bolt blow |
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The trigger frame on the gun sucks there is nothing eles to say but that it sucks. That is why there are after market Products. I recoment Dye or Shocktech trigger frames. Dye sticky Grip is the only way to go on that. N2 is a good good tihinking if u want this thing to last forever which it will. get a Drop Forward. This gun is not balenced at all. The stock trigger frame is a discrace to ur gun. take it off. i like the trigger frame on the 03's how ever. I recomend The OTP (On Target Products) Venturi bolt for accuracy and distance and a derline bolt for very high rates of fire.lighter cocker rods and pump arms will also increase the ROF. so will a lighter back block i regoment KAPP.
Ah then there is the stock berral. its not bad but of it is needed to be ajusted. i sawed off 3 inches of it and filed it so there was not metal or n e thing and it shoots balls out really fast. But do not do it if u are not experenced with tools one mess up and there is a scratch in the thing and u are screwed. Let me put this Bluntly the money you put into this gun is the preformence u will get from it this could be the last gun u ever get if u want. it will b good as u make it. u want a really high rate of fire get the E-bade then u and other aftermarket stuff and u have one of the bstmarkers in the world-no joke |
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To buy this product is to buy an investment. You need to put alot of cash into this gun trash the trigger frame the bolt and the regulator. other then that i give it 9 because of all the up grading that is needed |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, May 19th, 2004 at 10:48 am PST |
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I just got my 2001 Autococker and all i can say is wow!!!
Mine has a dye drpo foward on it. this makes the gun look cool and keeps my tank good and foward. i shot about 400
rounds through it and not a single break! it runs real smooth with a nice short triger pull! i have yet to use it in a real game but will write another review when i do. also i was surprised by the abilites of the stock barrel. as far as stock barrels go this one is good. Finaly the milled back block looks nice! |
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i do not like the grips. the feel kinda wiggly. also i would have prefured a crome front block, but hey they both work the same. also the barrle is decent but a carbon fiber is a nice upgrade |
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its great i would not recomend this to newbie but in the hands of a pro it is a perfect paintball gun with pinpiont accuracy and great range! |
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| Less than a month | 3 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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I've been using Autocockers since around '96. They just keep getting better and better, and this is as good as it gets until the 2003 is ready to be sold to consumers.
Other than many Autocockers, the only other marker remotely close to this one is the Sovereign. It's a bit funky, but nice all the same. I like the Autococker quite a bit more, mostly because there are many more upgrades for a 'Cocker than for a Sovereign---and everybody knows an AC when they see one. |
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| Marker Setup: |
2002 WGP Autococker (Vertical Feed)
AKA Sidewinder
AKA Tornado Valve
AKA Trigger Plate
AKA Back Block
AKA Cocking Rod
ANS Quick-pull Bolt
Professional Paintball slide frame
Palmer Rock pneumatic regulator
Belsales Hollowpoint 3-way
KAPP STO ram
Jackal Milling by Jackal Machine over at g3pb.com
Powder coating by KP Customs
Benchmark Inline Cradle
12" Lapco Bigshot
10" Smart Parts Freak System
Still under construction.
Also in my inventory is a 2002 Shocker VF and a 1 of 5 XCI Xtreme 98C by Xtreme Concepts Inc. (http://xtremepb.cjb.net).
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Well, first of all: gotta buy a barrel. A great low-cost option is any Lapco or Custom Products barrel. However, if you want the best from the start, try a barrel system like the Freak by Smart Parts, or the other various less-prominent kits by CP, J&J, Warped Sportz, etc.
Nitrogen. Buy it now, don't use Co2 unless you absolutely HAVE TO (and if you do, use an anti-siphon tank and check o-rings regularly).
9v or higher agitated hopper. Also a must, as this marker has so little kick that anything less just won't work, and you'll chop like a madman.
Inline Regulator. You won't BELIEVE how much your consistency will go up by simply replacing the reg. I suggest the AKA Sidewinder, but the MacDev Gladiator, Smart Parts Max-Flo, and ANS GX-3 are all great choices. |
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| Strengths: |
-Smooth. The smoothest marker I've ever fired. Even with a Hinge this baby will amaze you if you're a first-time shooter.
-Upgradable. This marker has, I believe, the most available upgrades in paintball today.
There really isn't too much to say here...it's consistent out of the box, feels great, compact, relatively light, and quiet. Plus, it has the nifty moving back block. ;) |
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Well, it ain't great stock...but what marker is?
If you mess with it past simple cleaning and repair, you'll probably need a player with a bit more experience using Autocockers to fix it for ya. Don't be afraid to purchase this marker if you're a new player---the old myth about it being impossible to keep ticking in a new guy's (or gal's) hands is just that, a myth. Keep it clean and you'll be just fine. |
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| Conclusion: |
Great marker! While it isn't perfect, what marker is?
I give it a 9/10. |
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3 months |
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Rental |
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2003 Vertical cocker w/bottomline, Stock no mods. |
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Barrel ( Stock barrel is not accurate at all)
Bolt
Front End (Stock not bad but, prob. get better distance and air efficiency not quiet sure though.) |
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| Strengths: |
Shoots very fast
Very accurate
Consistent Pressure
Never miss fires
Easy Disassembly (2 Pins...Done!) |
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Barrel S@(K$
Spikes When Breaking-in new seals (Common No Biggie) |
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| Review: |
I Bought mine for $359.99 with the bottomline and for the money I got every penny worth.
With this gun you don't need the $400.00 Elect. Upgrade it's firing rate is unreal. You can be the speedball sniper if your a good shot. 8 out of 10 times you're hitting you're mark no questions asked. I don't have any other exp. with other guns besides rentals but, I let my cousin shoot it and he's got a custom 98 and he's buying one, he loved it
Beautifully milled gun, it's got the bling-bling look. You can buy this gun cheap, supp-it up and it's just as good if not better then some of the top-end guns. I've used CO2 and never had a problem, It performed excellent in the pouring rain even with the CO2 always shot a ball. I only chopped 5 balls in 4 hrs. of play but, I think Enviormental conditions played a major factor but, don't hesitate on a delrin bolt!!! A new barrel is a must!!! CO2--Nitro (Should be optional but, nitro does tend to react better with bad weather conditions and it's much lighter.) |
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Buy this gun for what it's worth you won't regret it!!!
I believe this gun can out perform most high-end guns with the right upgrades (So, you gotta spend a few more Benjamin's, you gotta on any gun you buy.)
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