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Worr Game Products Mini Orracle Reviews
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Average Rating: |
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Marker: Orr-acle Autococker® Marker
Weight: 2 lbs 15 oz
Operation: Pneumatic no batteries required!!
Stock Barrel Length: 12"
Features:
•Threaded vertical feed design
•Comes with high rise & low rise feed tube
•Closed bolt semi auto
•Matching anodized hinge frame w/ 45 Gem grip
•14in 2 piece .689 Kaner barrel
•Black Magic inline regulator
•STO ram
•Tickler adjustable front regulator
•Orr-acle CT 3-way
•Cam adjuster
•Orr-acle delron 2 piece bolt
•Stainless steel valve
•Stainless Steel actuating, cocking and pump rod
•Ball detent
•Low operating pressure 230psi
Barrel Mount System: Autococker® Marker Threaded
Power Supply: co2 or compressed air (either)
Warranty: factory 1 year
MSRP: $1,100.00
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| The Worr Game Products Mini Orracle is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 2 years | 46 of 48 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
2006 PlanetEclipse Ego (Red w/ Black), 2006 STAR Frame w/ Maniac Board (Red), 14" .693 CF Stiffi Barrel, PlanetEclipse Shaft Solo Barrel, CP On/Off w/ Purge (Black), CP Sling Blade Trigger (Black), AKA 2-Liter Plus Regulator (Black), PBWarehouse Titanium Rammer, Kila Products Instinct Magnetic Detents (Black), Pure Energy 45cu 4500psi Compressed Air, Empire Reloader B (Black), Dye Rhino Cover (Red) |
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2004 WGP Vertical Feed Mini Orr-acle (Blue Matte), 14" .693 CF Stiffi Barrel, WGP STO Kaner 2-Piece Barrel, CP Rail, CP On/Off Valve w/ Purge (Chrome), WGP 70cu 4500psi Worrgas, Pure Energy 45cu 4500psi Compressed Air, Empire Reloader B (Smoke), PlanetEclipse E-Blade 2 (Chrome), Nexus Complete Upgrade Kit, Dye Rhino Cover (Blue)
RPS Advantage Marballizer Paintballs, RP Evil Paintballs, Diablo Heat Paintballs, Core Paintballs |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Compressed Air / N2 Tank, (Pure Energy 3000psi / 68cu, 4500psi / 68cu, 5000psi / 68cu, Worrgas 4500psi / 70cu, 5000psi / 70cu, Dye Throttle 4500psi / 70cu, 4500psi / 71cu) Fast Electronic Hopper, (Halo B, Viewloader Evolution 2, Empire B Reloader, Ricochet 2002 Apache) and a Drop Forward (W.G.P., K.A.P.P., SystemX) is almost a must. Another thing that you may think about purchasing (only if you love to cover objects / people in paint) is a Electronic Grip (PlanetEclipse E-Blade, W.G.P. WorrBlade, PlanetEclipse E-Blade 2 (E-2)). A stock W.G.P. Mini Orr-acle can fire 8-10 bps (how fast you yourself can pull the trigger). A Mini Orr-acle w/ PlanetEclipse E-Blade / W.G.P. Worrblade can fire 16+ bps. And a Mini Orr-acle w/ PlanetEclipse E-Blade 2 can fire 23+ bps. Having good upgrades will allow the user to see the true capabilities of this exceptional marker. |
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| Strengths: |
Accuracy (This is what AutoCockers are known for), Speed, Super Quiet, Weight (Light). |
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| Weaknesses: |
Stock trigger pull is large. However, you can fix this with some adjustments. |
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| Review: |
First of all I would like to clarify some questions that people have about the W.G.P. Mini Orr-acle.
First Question: What does the "Mini" stand for? As you all know the Orr-acle was the top marker of the W.G.P. line up for a couple of years. Being the top, W.G.P. put all their factory upgrades into it, to make it one of the best AutoCockers on the market. After a couple of years W.G.P. was looking into replacing the Orr-acle. Rather than making a whole new marker, they took the Orr-acle and made it better. They took off about an inch in length and made it a bit lighter (re-milled the body to save weight), thus creating the Mini Orr-acle.
Second Question: Differences between the Orr-acle and the Mini? Length, Weight, Custom Milling (Shave off the weight / styling), and W.G.P. put a On/Off Valve on the grip.
Third Question: Is Smaller Better? In this case a small marker is a better marker. Lighter, making it more maneuverable. Shorter, allowing you to aim faster (there is a reason that the "Snipers" are not on the front line). But don't worry the shortened length DID NOT sacrifice the accuracy of this Marker one bit.
I bought this marker really not knowing anything about AutoCockers. But let me tell you that right out of the box this gun impressed me. Just the sight of it still sitting in the box is enough to make you respect the gun. WGP (The original creators of the AutoCocker) really outdid themselves with the custom milling and exceptional styling of this marker. One of the nice things about the Mini Orr-acle is that you don't need to spend that much to upgrade it, due to the fact that the gun already comes with a lot of upgrades built in. Some of which include: Orr-acle CT 3-way, Orr-acle delron bolt, 14" 2 piece .689 Kaner barrel, WGP On/Off Valve, Black Magic Inline Regulator. Once taken out of the box you realize that this marker is one light gun, it is also very well balanced when held. In comparison I went from a Tippmann A-5 to the WGP Mini Orr-acle. The First difference between these guns about a pound difference in weight. Second is the balancing of the gun. The A-5 has most of the weight centered over the forward grip making it difficult to hold the marker with one hand (rear grip). In comparison the Mini Orr-acle has most of the weight balanced over the rear grip making it super easy to hold up over long periods of time. A huge plus that this gun has over the competition is its undying need to be accurate. When I first got this gun, I took it over to my friends house where I set up a target (1 ft / 1ft) 50 yards away. I loaded 20 balls in the hopper and succeeded in hitting the target all but one time (first shot missed). Some of the other advantages of this marker is you don't need to worry about filling up your tank that often. The gun fires 230psi which allows you to save your compressed air (DO NOT use CO2 on this gun! CO2 is a very dirty gas, will only cause problems) and with it firing at such a low pressure makes it almost have no blow back (recoil). Having no recoil aids in a huge way with accuracy. You can point it at an object and keep firing at that same point from shot to shot.
I would just like to point out one thing about the air systems that you can use with this marker, and say the benefits / drawbacks that each of them have.
CO2 is a great (well I wouldn't give it that much credit) gas, if you are using a marker that is in the $50-$300 range. Most of those markers are cheap, and will be more forgiving if you use CO2 on them. The Plus about CO2 is the fact that you can get a tank for around $30-$50 and fill up for around $4-$8, making it really cost effective (and about 99% of the Paintball Fields / Shops have CO2). The Downside about CO2 is the fact that most high end (Electronic / Mechanical) markers WILL NOT run on it. The CO2 system is running at such a high PSI that the marker WILL wear out faster. Your O-Rings will freeze over causing cracking, which will lead to a leak. And if the marker is not cleaned on a regular basis, the marker will seize up with the CO2 residue.
N2 (Nitrogen) is the next step up. It is used (for years) in the higher end $350-$1500 markers. The Plus with using a N2 setup is the fact that it is WAY cleaner than CO2. The pressure is also a more controlled, putting less wear and tear on your marker. The Downside to a N2 setup is cost. You will expect to pay $200-$300 (based on the size / brand) for a High Pressure Tank (highly recommend a Carbon Fiber Tank). You will also need to install (if your marker doesn't have one already installed) a pressure regulator. The fill up costs are around the same as CO2 fill ups. N2 is a semi-dirty gas, so some cleaning is required.
Compressed Air is the new boy on the block. This is the best gas for any marker (that can handle it). The Plus is it is a SUPER clean gas, requiring virtually no cleanup afterwords. The Tanks that you need to use on the markers keep a constant flow of gas to the marker. The cost of the fill up is around $3-$5. More paintball shops / fields have Compressed Air over N2. The Downside is the fact that the "setup" costs are really expensive ($200-$300 for a tank / regulator). That is about the only downside with Compressed Air.
If I was to recommend a gas source for this marker, definitely use a Compressed Air. |
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| Conclusion: |
I feel that this marker is worth every dollar that you put into it. You can't get another marker with the speed / accuracy that the Mini Orr-acle has without spending $400-$500 more. This marker will only bring a huge smile to your face, and will strike fear in the minds of the competition. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Monday, January 15th, 2007 at 5:11 pm PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 10 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
WGP VF autococker. |
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| Marker Setup: |
04 WGP mini orracle, Black to Red Fade, Empire reloader, Worr Gas 70ci 4500psi. |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
A drop forward to balance it out nicely, don't even think about using CO2, your also going to need an electronic hopper to keep up with the gun, its not hard to out shoot even a cheap electronic hopper. |
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| Strengths: |
Fast, quiet, dead on accurate. |
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| Weaknesses: |
None. |
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| Review: |
This gun is ROCK SOLID! If you want the best, get this gun. While the design has not really changed in 15 years, why fix it if it ain't broken. The kaner baral is dead on and one of the best looking barrals out their. Better then the boomstick in my opinion because it shoots just as good and is quieter. |
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| Conclusion: |
This is just like the old orracle, shorter, weighs less, looks better, priced better, and has a real nice anodizing job. Bang for the buck, you can't go wrong with this gun. The only 2 upgrades it needs are a drop forward and maybe if you really think it is necessary an electronic trigger. But you don't need one with this gun. Those are the only upgrades that you could justify getting. Get this marker. |
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Saturday, November 13th, 2004 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
First cocker YAY! |
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| Marker Setup: |
black WGP mini orracle
Halo B
KAPP drop
Dye peanut throttle
Nexus internals kit (including)
-nexus ram
-rexdialer kit
-and more (hehe)
NEW E2
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Barrel (pipe kit)
N2 (dye throttle or Worrgas)
Fast hopper (halo, Evo)
a good drop to eaven out the gun (depends on tank)
If you want electro get the E2 |
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| Strengths: |
Quiete
Acurate
small
Light
Adjustable
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Price
Attention (good or bad) |
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| Review: |
This gun is awesome! I got mine last week and took it to the field and it was sweet. It was my first cocker so I was a little reluctant bevause I heard that they were very fragile and you shouldn't touch anything except the trigger. The second I got to the field I gassed up and took it to the chrono. One problem (like all cockers, except the Karnivor) you have to remove the cocking rod in order to change velocity. To me that isn't a problem but chroning took that much longer. When I got on the field This gun Was ammazing! I only went through one bag of paint during my 3 hour time at the field because I kept on one-balling people (you know hitting them with one paintball). Combined with my pipe system thsi gun was ammazing... You know what I'm gonna go paintballing again right now...(four hours later)... Geeze I love this gun. Anyways ONce I got home I had a little gas left so I went out and began to sweet-spot my marker. It was pretty easy, Guess I have a natural tallent (he, he). ONe of the only problems I had with this marker was the level of dificulty I have cleaning the front pneunamics (geeze I can't spell that word).
Also the gun itself in a way IS more acurate. It doesn't shoot straighter or something it the fact that the cocker has less blowback. that way you can tak on average more accurate shots
People have asked me "what is the difference between the orracle and the mini orracle?" WGP took the orracle (it was thier best marker so they put on all the best upgrades) adn made it a mini cocker. It still has the same accuracy and fire power.
People also say that because the mini is smaller it is not as good. It is the same gun, same stuff and is just as good. I always think that people are wierd on forums or in real life when they go " oh you nut, you got ht emini orracle! why did you do that".
You can theoreticly use CO2 with this gun because it is mech and when cockers were first made tahts all there was to run them on. I advise, however, that you use a N2 tank so y ou get a constant flow into your uber-expensive gun! |
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| Conclusion: |
I like my gun
'nuff said go buy it
P.S. This is the first ten I've given to any product |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, December 1st, 2004 at 9:04 pm PST |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 5 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder Rodeo - Not even close to being as accurate, but modded right and has same BPS. Also heavier.
WGP OutKast - Smaller, not quite as accurate, about same recoil. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Black WGP Mini Orracle
12" Kaner .689 barrel
Bonebreak Vertfeed neck
Pure Energy 68/4500 HPA
Empire Reloader |
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| Strengths: |
Accurate
LIGHT!!
Sturdy
Fast Rate of Fire
Little Recoil |
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| Weaknesses: |
No safety
Feedneck |
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| Review: |
First off, the Mini Orracle is definitly a work of art. It is no longer in production by WGP (being replaced by the OutKast and Karnivor set). Originally, I had some problems with it. I believe that, considering I bought the last one in the store, these problems are not WGP's fault.
First of all, my 3-way was bent slightly, causing air to leak until I dry fired one shot. This is very annoying, especially since it was a factory error. However, because I bought one of the last ones, I think that it was just a fluke and shouldn't cause a penalization.
Secondly, the Mini Orracle DOES NOT HAVE A SAFETY. Let me reiterate that. NO SAFETY! Do not go looking for one on it, because (if you are anything like me) you will end up screwing with the CAM. The CAM adjusts the trigger pull on the marker, and is a silver allen screw on the trigger frame where the safety should be. Do not mess with this!!! I gave it a quarter turn with an allen wrench, and it fell straight out. I had to take it back to the store to get repaired.
Also, and this is a standard with all WGP markers, the feedneck usually needs replaced right off the beginning. My hopper won't fit in it securely, requiring me to buy an aftermarket feedneck.
Ok, with the negatives out of the way, I cannot emphasize how much this marker rocks. The rate of fire is amazing!! It easily matches the rate of an electric spyder or Impulse. It is one of the fastest mech markers out there. *Note* Only buy the non-electronic version if you have no intention of upgrading. I would suggest buying it with the Worr blade as it vastly improves your BPS. The $499 afterwards, however, was a very steep price that I would have rather spent in the beginning.
Also, I am glad to report that the accuracy (which the Orracle was famous for) returns triumphantly. This marker can hit a standard sized CD standing upright from 20 and 30 yards. I set up a 3 ft by 3 ft board and hit it all but twice from a distance of 40 yards.
Finally, this marker is light. The body work is amazing, and the milling is up the best. |
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| Conclusion: |
Beyond the few negatives I had with my specific marker, overall it completely comes through.
I believe that it is the BEST marker you can buy in this price range.
Fast, Light, and Accurate. Do you need much more??
Also, I will reiterate; DO NOT MESS WITH THE CAM THERE IS NO SAFETY!!
Thank you. |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Sunday, November 28th, 2004 at 6:53 pm PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
spyder imagine
tippman 98
04 verticocker |
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| Marker Setup: |
wgp mini orracle
pmi 48ci 3000psi
empire reloader |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Drop forward
E-blade E2 |
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| Strengths: |
Quiet
Shoots straight
Fast |
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| Weaknesses: |
None |
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| Review: |
This is the best gun i have ever used this thing is so quiet i went in my living room and shot my gun while everyone was sleeping and no one woke up the next day i went outside and shot about 300 paintballs and not one break this thing is so fast i out shot my hopper |
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| Conclusion: |
If you want an autococker buy this one its affordable and one of the best |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder X-Tra - Beginner marker, never buying another spyder again |
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| Marker Setup: |
Blue/Black Fade Mini Orracle
Evo 2
Pure Energy 3000/48ci
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Nothing, It comes perfect. If you want better looks go for a new beavertail, a drop is nice too to keep it balanced |
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| Strengths: |
Accuracy is the best, Very Air Efficent, comes fully upgraded, a joy to play with. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Nothing, I love this gun |
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This marker is amazing! When you get it timed (really not hard) it fires like a dream, Its very smooth with no recoil. The accuracy is superb, I can hit somebody with one ball from 20 yards away with this. After I purchased this marker I used much less paint because I can snap shoot like a pro. The overall feel is very quality, everybody wants to shoot it and touch it. This marker has earned a name for itself in paintballing and its no wonder it is called the Orracle. I personally like the Mini because it is lighter and seems more like the right size for me. If you are a back player definitely get the e-blade as it greately increases your bps. The Orracle is very fps consistent. I would not reccommend CO2 with this, if you are smart enough to buy this marker be smart enough to take care of it. Overall, this marker is amaizing and a great deal. |
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Get this marker before they sell out, with only about 5000 made you cannot go wrong. I personally got this marker for only $300 from Paintball Gateway, What a Steal! If you want all around great proformace and best accuracy out there, buy this. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 2 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
mini black magic, black magic, orracle, pro stock 05 and 04 |
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| Marker Setup: |
mini orracle, 88cu 4500psi crossfire n2 tank, halo tsa lcd backman hopper |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
E1 or E2 if you are going to play tourney play |
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| Strengths: |
Really really accurate, quiet, light |
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| Weaknesses: |
Nothing!!! |
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| Review: |
ok first thing i am going to say is that if you are going to get this gun DON'T RUN IT OFF CO2! Ok now on to the good stuff. This guns accuracy is insane i shot like 10 paintballs at a board and 8 out of 10 of them landed in the same 3 inch area yah hella accurate. its also quiet every time you fire it sounds like opening a soda. |
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| Conclusion: |
This gun is sick if you are thinking about getting 1 then get it! |
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Tuesday, October 24th, 2006 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Trilogy Series |
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| Marker Setup: |
WGP Mini Orracle Black/Chrome
Planet Eclpise .688 back Dye UltraLite Front
Soon a good barrel kit
Empir3 REloader 2
Worr Gas 50 CI 3k steel tank
SP Phreak cover |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
E1 or e2 for tournie play(For this you WILL have to get the body drilled and tapped let the proshop do it for you)
diffrent front forgrip
Ram
back block
Clampy
You will need a ASA,dropand a macro kit for this gun |
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| Strengths: |
Beautiful milling
Size
Accuracy |
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| Weaknesses: |
Short Stroking
Timing takes alooong time |
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| Review: |
I bought this gun of a very good friend of mine. Im happy with it.
The goods
Accurate-man ive used 'cockers before and i like them. "proper paint to barrel match will almost always lead to a more accurate shot" is ture but with a stock barrel its mighty accurate
size-its small great if you play front
milling-its different from the ORRacle. Its drop dead sexy.
factory mods-It comes with the factory 2 piece Delrin Bolt.,LPR and Ram
I know this isn't going to help you decide to buy it or not, but if you look inot the feed neck into the breach you will see a W or WGP in there.
The bads
you need a ASA and macro line kit(can be looked at good or bad either way)
The hole that's in the back block seems a little too loose to the cocking rod.
the evil short stroking-you will do this for a while when you get any 'cocker.
Timing-take it to a pro shop to get it professionally time once a year. It takes about an hour or 2.
EDIT:(May,10th,07)This gun has been in the shop more than i have played with it. I think its due to a bad reg and LPR. Ill drop it to an 8 as of now. |
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| Conclusion: |
I just got this gun and i love it. If you can get it for under 300 GET IT you wont be upset. |
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| Rating: |
| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, May 10th, 2007 at 3:11 pm PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
havent used many other autocockers |
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| Marker Setup: |
nasty shocker
cp bottomline
pepper stickz (once i get the cash)
mini orracle
cp flame drop and bottom line |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
clamping feed neck and thats pretty much it |
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| Strengths: |
Quiet, accurate, pretty fast for a mechanical gun, has a really nice feel to it. |
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| Weaknesses: |
The ram leaks on mine, but its no big deal.
Not very reliable. |
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| Review: |
when i first got the gun it was totaly screwed up. so i took it to a place to get it fixed, and as soon as i got it home it broke on me again. so then i just screwed around with it for the rest of the day and finaly got it to work again, and when i did it was awsome. i took it to play at a local field the next weekend and i was really impressed with it. The way the gun feels in your hands while you are shooting is amazing, its so comfertable. It was pretty quiet to, but that really dosent make a difference in speedball.... but its still cool. |
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Ok first of all, i dont know anything about cockers, and mine was probly messed up because of soemthing i did to it, but when i got it to work it was amazing and you should get it. Stop reading this review, go make some money so you can buy this! |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
karny,vert cocker,ion,tes,the one,angel fly, angle speed, alias timmy,spyders, tippmans. |
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| Marker Setup: |
mini orracle,shocktech superfly delrin bolt, halo b, dye ultralight, 45ci 4500 psi compressed air tank,pchyco bullistics bullet drop |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
E-blade |
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| Strengths: |
accuracy
lightweight
consistant
quite
low profile
DEAD SEXY |
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| Weaknesses: |
No clamping feedneck
Dont get your finger caught in here...*Swink*... Ouch!! |
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| Review: |
after having my tes for a while i decided to upgrade to my first real high end marker. after reading good reviews and hearing good things about the mini i got it for a birthday/christmas preasant. right out of the box this thing could smack a budweiser off my brothers head. ive had it since cristmas now and it hasnt broken down on me yet (the reliability you come to expect from WGP). after getting people everyday with one ball snap shooting the accuracy of this gun deffinetly is now sacraficed by the shorter length of its bigger brother. if you are looking for a great mech cocker you have found it. if you are looking for a perfect cocker for a front man then definetly get this cocker,or if your the back of the team get the minr E-orracle. couple hundred dollars more but worth every penny.
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if you are looking for a very good mech cocker at a decent price this is it.
BUY IT!!! |
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