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Manufacturer Description Subscribe to Reviews on this Product - Edit this Product Listing Introducing the first pistol RAM (Real Action Marker): RAP17. The RAP17 is designed to replicate the look, feel, and functionality of a real modern handgun. However, RAP17 can only be used to shoot .43 caliber paintballs. The materials that are used to make the RAP17 are metal alloy and hard plastic. The slide and internal mechanism are made of hardened metal alloy and steel that can withstand any condition of use. The barrel is made of light weight aluminum to reduce the overall weight but is still very durable. The pistol frame is made of durable hard plastic that can withstand drops, rough use, abuse, or any condition of use. The RAP17 functions like a real handgun with blowback action and strong recoil. It's powered by a refillable internal built-in CO2 reservoir inside the handgrip which can shoot 30 rounds of .43 cal paintballs per each fill. Filling up CO2 is easy, the RAP17 package comes with a fill adapter that can be connected to any regular CO2 tank (45g, 200g, 9oz, 12oz, etc.) to fill up the RAP17. Unlike other RAM, the RAP17 doesn't eject shell casings. The paintballs are loaded into a small magazine which can hold 10 rounds and the magazine is inserted into the handgrip. Like a real handgun, the RAP17 stops shooting when out of ammunition. The muzzle velocity is adjustable from 180 - 240 fps by adjusting a small screw in the back of the handgrip. The effective range of the RAP17 is 20m (65ft) and maximum range is 50m (160ft) Product Availability   The Real Action Paintball RAP17 is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore. Places to Buy No Stores Sponsored Links

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Mr.Tiny Friday, October 8th, 2004 Period of Product Use: Only tested 15 of 15 people found this review helpful. Paintball Experience: More than 5 years Similar Products Used: I have used a Zeus for a short period of time, but didn't like how bulky it was. Also the co2 leaked before I could get very many shots off. I have also used airsoft replica pistols in games. I was impressed with them, but they didn't shoot paintballs, which is clearly a problem. Marker Setup: I use a RAP4 LE (Law Enforcement) with riser mount and red dot scope. I run a remote line off of a 90 degree adapter into a 16 oz co2 tank. As a fall back weapon I use the RAP17 just used a 12g one time use cartridge. It is good for about 30 shots. Recommended Upgrades: It would be nice to run a remote to the RAP17 as a lanyard, but really it isn't used enough to be very important. Strengths: Realistic looks & operation Range & accuracy on par with other paintball pistols Weaknesses: Not as reliable as more proven .68 pistols Review: The first thing I would like to note is that this is really an amazing achievement. Never before has there been such a realistic looking, and operating paintball pistol. From the weight to the feel, it all adds up. What is a composite on the real gun is a high impact plastic on its paintball counterpart, and what is metal on the real deal, is also metal on the RAP17. The next thing you will notice after you get over the amazingly realistic feel and look of the RAP17, is the operation. When you pull the trigger, the slide blows back, just like on the real thing. Once you run out of paintballs to shoot, the slide stays locked back, just like on the real thing. As far as performance (range/accuracy) goes, you will find the RAP17 to be on par with other paintball pistols. What allows all this to take place in the realistic confinements of the RAP17, is that the paintballs are not .68 caliber, but actually .43 caliber. This new caliber has struggled from lack of quality for years, but in recent year Nelson has produced a very high quality .43 caliber paint that has been designed to work in all RAP markers. This caliber allows for realistic markers to be made since the dimensions of real guns can fit a .43 caliber ball in them, where they can't fit a .68 caliber ball in them. Fields around the world are slowly, but surely starting to accept this new form as paint, and are allowing it to be used in play with .68 caliber markers. The RAP17 being the only real looking paintball pistol out there does a great job all around. There were many problems with the first generation, but the latest version is very reliable, and performs great. Conclusion: If you’re looking for a sidearm and want that extra realism added to your paintball experience, then look no further. The RAP17 is now available to fill that void that just can't be filled by paintball markers like the Zeus. If you’re into realistic play, then this is the pistol for you. I give it a 9 because there is always room for improvement, but really this is the only option for people like me, and this option is pretty ghood all around. No real complaints. Rating: 9 out of 10 I found this review   0 Comments - Add Comment

Mogley Wednesday, November 24th, 2004 Period of Product Use: Less than a month 5 of 5 people found this review helpful. Paintball Experience: 2 years Similar Products Used: Rap4 LE, Rap4 V4, Rap4 V3, Tippman 98, Tippman A5 Marker Setup: Real Action Marker LE Version Strengths: Exact 1:1 scale replica. Strong, compact, performs flawless. Weaknesses: Doesnt have the range of a rifle marker, but no pistol marker will. Review: Range and Accuracy This marker rocks, I'm getting 50-60ft accurately and thats on the stock velocity setting. And Im able to hit a 4 inch wide fence post at that distance about 7 out of 10 times. I cranked up the velocity to the max to see if I could get any more distance. No ,but I could tell that it was shooting harder. The sound of the paintballs smacking the fencepost is alot harder. I wish I had a chrono to see how hard its shooting. Keep in mind this is a pistol and will not have the range of the rifle markers. Thats probably why when I turned up the velocity all the way no range was gained. The barrel on pistols are too short to fire that far, even with all the FPS in the world. Reliability I know this has been somewhat of a concern after some of the problems with some of the first rap17's. But it seems the EX is perfect. Keep in mind just like with the Rap4 LE, this is the 3rd version of the rap17, with many improvements, it seems the got this one just right. I never owned any of the other rap17's, but I have fired off over 300 rounds on my glock with no problem. Also I get 50+ shots off a 12 gram easy. I have gotten 7 mags off one 12gram, but the last mag and a half had to be recocked after every fire. If the power is too low than it wont recock. Never had a single problem. Not a ball break a jam or anything. Overall Impression I love it, its well built, looks very nice, and seems to be a great performer. The velocity adjustment is very easy. No taking the marker apart like the rap4. It built into the back of the pistol grip. So just insert the allen wrench there and turn, and presto, you changed the velocity. The enhanced barrel with copper lining is a perfect match for the rap4/nelson paint on the rap17, just like the rap4 Le markers enhanced barrel. The mags are steel and very strong and it will fit 10 paintballs. I recommend this marker to anyone looking for a pistol as a backup marker, or even if you just want a pistol. The nice thing is it is not too bulky like the armotech zeus pistols. I give this marker a 10 out of 10. Conclusion: I recommend this marker for anyone looking for a pistol, it works great and you will be well pleased with its performance. Rating: 10 out of 10 Last edited on Monday, November 29th, 2004 at 12:27 pm PST I found this review   3 Comments - Add Comment

cldblkhrt Saturday, December 18th, 2004 Period of Product Use: 3 months 2 of 2 people found this review helpful. Paintball Experience: More than 5 years Similar Products Used: i own several .68 pistols. Splatmaster, Crossmann 3357, and Core zx Marker Setup: enhanced barrel Recommended Upgrades: enhanced barrel if it comes with a plastic barrel Strengths: Accurate, realism, nice weight Weaknesses: Co2 capacity and filling procedures Review: I have owned a M4 Ram since June 04 and have pondered the purchase of the pistol for backup purposes. I finally decided to make a purchase when the new 31-p model made its debut. The Rap17 is a general designation given to 2 models the 30-p and the 31-p the 30-p was the original model produced and is still being sold in China. the 31-p is being sold to the US. Once i recieved the pistol i immediatly inspected the pistol thuroughly. I was impressed with the overal look and feel of the pistol. the grip frame is made of a plastic type material while the slide is metal. I had received a plastic barrel with my pistol which i immediatly replaced with a enhanced barrel from SOGEAR.COM. I have purchased the all aluminum barrel as well as the enhanced barrel(copper/brass lined). they are two different bore barrels. the aluminum barrel being slightly smaller. Filling procedures: The pistol has a on-board resevoir that utilizes a fill adapter. you recieve a adapter to screw onto a typical co2 tank. i suggest the use of a tank with a on/off valve. you screw the adapter onto the gun, and the screw the tank onto the end of the adapter. you then are supposed to invert the gun(upside down) and fire the pistol several times to make sure you get a good fill. These procedures obviously are not ideal for "battlefield" situations, but keep in mind it is meant only as back-up. On a good fill i can get around 2 mags or 20 rounds. on a ok fill i get about 10-15 rounds. with the on/off valve the adapter can be left on the tank. Magazines: this is where i had a slight problem. the magazine(old style) it had a rubber material that was used a retainer. it is a single flap that hangs down from the top. after repeated use, the rubber can fail. i have since purchased a new magazine. It has a dual retainer setup. one on each side of the mag opening. I am not sure of the material is any different, but it is defintly a better design. the rubber pieces can be removed(carefully) and inverted so that you have a fix for the problem. i have also used other rubber materials cut to size to replace the worn rubber retainers Accuracy: with both barrels, i can accurately take flat shots at a torso sized target at about 70 feet. i find this impressive. the aluminum barrel did not have a nice bore finish so i gave it a good polishing with Mothers al polish. the enhanced barrel works great with no need for polishing. paint: there are two choices of paint in .43. 1) Korean .43. this is a dark blue shell paintw/orange fill. this paint is slightly smaller, and works excellent in the aluminum barrel. this is sold at rap4.com and is the bottled paint 2)Rap4 .43 this is a light blue shell w/ light blue fill. this paint is actuall manufactured by Nelson for Rap4. this is nice paint and works excellent with the enhanced barrel. this paint is sold bagged. excellent stuff there is also another batch of paint coming into Rap4. It is new, dont know who manufactures it, but it is supposed to be better than the current Rap .43 bagged paint check with your local fields if they will allow the use of .43 paint. i play "outlaw" for the most part so i dont worrry about that. FYI there is also now a rap17-ex version which takes 12 gram co2 cartridges instead of the on-board tank Conclusion: If you are into the milsim side of paintball, I highly recommend this pistol. all in all I feel that I made a sound investment in this pistol. I was hesitant at first to shell out $220 for the pistol, but I am glad I did. excellent piece. I give it a 9 only because of the magazine retainer issues. Rating: 9 out of 10 I found this review   0 Comments - Add Comment

spank Tuesday, April 25th, 2006 Period of Product Use: 2 years 1 of 1 people found this review helpful. Paintball Experience: More than 5 years Similar Products Used: Closest similar product is my real steel/composite Glock 37 Marker Setup: Rap 4 w/Rap 17 as backup Recommended Upgrades: Mine was great as-is Strengths: smallest marker I know of, 12 gram c02, realism, gas-efficient Weaknesses: Have to buy the tough rap4 paint or it will chop, not easy to disassemble Review: This is a truely great sidearm marker. A paintball pistol comes in real handy when your main marker only holds 21-round mags and has to be continually reloaded. I hold my RAP17 in one of the magazine holders in my vest, and it is just a second or 2 away from deployment if I either run out of ammo, am in a situation too tight to maneuver my main marker, or if my main marker malfunctions. The Rap17EX itself holds a maximum of 10 rounds in a metal magazine that is loaded into the pistol grip much like a real pistol. 10 rounds fit awfully tight in the magazine, so I usually go with 9 rounds. The new mags are metal, and I have 3 figuring I will use no more that 30 rounds in any one game. The mags are very easy to reload, so if I do need more I just load them up again. The marker fires .43 cal paint, which as far as I know can only be bought from Rap4.com. For the Rap17 I find that you need their heavy duty paint. It never breaks in the barrel, but the down side is that it may not break on your soft target. I can get about 50 shots from a 12 gram cartridge, which also fits in the grip next to the magazine. I can usually get a 1foot grouping from about 60 ft, which is sweet cosidering i am just pointing and shooting usually from a standing position. The one thing to watch is that you put a drop of oil where the 12 gram sits on the rubber o-ring every day you use it, or you will be spewing c02 out the barrel of the marker. The velocity is easily adjusted on a screw behind the grip, but I always keep mine on the maximum. Also, I find that oiling the slide where it makes contact with the composite body of the gun will help you get more shots from a 12 gram without having to recock the thing after going through 3 mags of ammo. Conclusion: If you have the money (279.00 new) get this backup marker! I got mine used and it still works great. It looks just like a real glock, and weighs about as much, if not a little more. It is great for tactical play and unparralleled for milsim action. Make sure you get the EX version with the 12 gram though. You will be impressed. Rating: 9 out of 10 I found this review   0 Comments - Add Comment

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