Ronin 4+3 harness (see review) and various other belt based pod haulers.
Spyder Imagine, 20oz, 3A 16" bbl, BSA 30mm red dot sight. Blackpoint (Jet City Specialties) Offset Sightrail. Stock bolt
PMI TTracer pump, Thunderpig springs, Stock except Palmers Pursuit ported my stock bbl, and went thru it for me.
Low Cost, Quality Materials. Small Profile, Suspender Hooks
Poor Engineering, and a lack of forethought cripples what could be an outstanding product.
After playing for a while with my Ronin 4+3, I decided I wanted to have the option to go with a remote setup, and also to drop a bit of the bulk I was carrying with my 4+3 Ronin Harness. I almost never carry the extra 3 tubes, because it is almost imposible to get a pod back into the elastic loops while your wearing it anyway, so why not go with a 4+1 and rig out a remote?
OK.... So after reading all the reviews I could find, and asking everybody I could find that was wearing one what they thought of this unit, I went ahead and bid on one from II Sports thru EBAY. Funny thing is, they were out of stock at II Sports for several days after I won the bid. (gee isn't a company not supposed to post auctions on items they do not currently have stock on)?
Anyway after they finally send the thing to me I am amazed. Not because they screwed up my order again (said they shipped my 30 day back ordered suspenders but forgot to put them in the box ). I mean after dealing with II Sports for this long on different items and issues, I pretty much expect them to screw up on the order, or have a backorder problem, or some other small but significantly annoying problem.
No I was amazed at how well made this unit was, and yet, how poorly designed (or poorly executed) the design was. Wow, a nice low profile 4/140 harness with a center bottle holder.... man, life should be good now!
Alas it is not..... I keep hoping that I will be able to report that a product they (II Sports) ships me is going to please me to no end. They have yet to be able to perform this even once. (ok, my smoke 140ball pods work as advertised, but other than that......)
Now before you start hammerning me about this I will tell you right up front. I do not expect the quality and workmanship of a $70 harness for $20... but for the most part, I am amazed because that is exactly what I have gotten. The harness is sturdy, and the pod holders are of the keep open stiff design. Bravo Ronin! I check the stitching and at least on this example I find no obvious defects in workmanship, (unlike my Ronin 4+3 which started loosing Velcro off the pod holder closures on the very first day ) Again Bravo Ronin! Excellent craftsmanship!
But this harness suffers from products built by factories or designed by engineers that are CHEAP SOB'S. Why would I say such a thing? Simple. After taking a look at this harness I can see that they tried to save a few cents by only putting about 1.5" of Velcro on the straps that hold the CO2 bottle in. This means that you can not adequately cinch the bottle into the pocket because they also scrimped maybe another 6 cents worth of Velcro pile on the pocket front itself. This means that the straps only loosely fit across the top of the bottle allowing it to wobble and bounce in the pocket.
While I found the vertical bottle pocket big enough to hold a 20oz CO2 bottle with probably an inch of slack around the bottle, in a one size fits all world, it is a poor fit. I will admit that they have tried to improve this, by adding the horizontal straps that go over the outside of the pocket (though difficult to tighten) these at least helped to marginally stabilize the bottle.
Alas these straps also cause a problem since they lay right where the Velcro tabs should hit the currently non existent Velcro pile material. This problem could be fixed either by adding more Velcro Pile material on the outside of the bottle pocket, or even more cheaply (are you listening Ronin factory?) by adding a couple more inches of Velcro HOOK on the bottoms of the straps. Man, don't you guys test your gear before you put a Design into production?
This design defect could almost be overlooked if it were not for the second glaring example of trying to shave a nickel and that is the waist strap. Instead of the wonderful wide, comfortable and stable Velcro rig of the 4+3, they went with a big plastic snap style buckle that digs into your gut when you try and get behind a bunker!
For crying out loud people!!!! You are selling to AMERICANS, You know... land of the Big Mac and Super-size everything! This waist strap can barely and I mean barely make it around my 38" waist, and the thing has to ride under my gut (yea I got a gut, you would have one too if you review beer for a living!) Come on! How much would an extra 6" of strap cost you?
The unit has none of the wonderful Velcro and Elastic adjustments of their 4+3, No lumbar support and as far as I have found, none of the nifty key pockets accessory pockets, or squeegee loops you find on the 4+3. Someone said it will fit up to a size 42, well maybe his will, but I assure you, this one will not even comfortably fit on a 38 waist.
Now to it's credit, yes this is a smaller unit, and does not have room for ALL of those nifty things, but This unit has none of them. It does have the attachments for a set of load bearing suspenders to help distribute and stabilize the load, but since they can not seem to ship those things to me I can't really include them in the review.
As for all this malarkey about the Ronin Gear Logo patch on the thing, come on!!! Get a Life! All I see is people running around with Jersey's and T'Shirts with logos and company names plastered all over them, and almost every mask I see has the company name if not their logo emblazoned on the strap! So Ronin gets hammered because they do it too? It ain't that cheesy and looks better than a bunch of the stuff I see on people most any day. Get Over It!
Since It comes with 4ea of their 100 round pods I guess I should say it has even more value for the dollar spent. But these pods are very very cheep pods and the construction indicates they would be better used in camp to top off your hopper before going out instead of in the field where you might actually be under some pressure and forget to treat them with kid gloves.
OK, My final thoughts on this are this.
For a $20 harness it is a really good value. For $0.25 more it could have been an outstanding one!
Quality of workmanship on my unit at date of receipt: 10
Design functionality: 8
Execution of the design: 5
Overall Value for the money spent:10
So after hammering it for all this time the Ronin 4+1 harness itself gets an overall score of 8.
But since the largest single distributor of this product seems to be II Sports the best I can give them is a 6, (for choosing II Sports as their Dealer/Distributor). This company has some of the worst luck with all things customer related.
By the Way II Sports......where is the replacement for my defective Slide Check Bleed Valve I sent you 10 days ago? Why did I have to pay shipping to return to you a defective item YOU sold me? Did I mention the suspenders?
6 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, April 26th, 2004 at 12:07 am PST
-Green Spyder Imagine
-All-American 14in. Black
-12volt VL Rev. Black
-20oz CO2 tank
-JT nVader Thermal
-Redz 4+1 Pack
-Dead On Pro Style Drop Forward
-32* Remote (Don't use it)
-Trigger Job (side-side)
-Clear Macroline Kit: 90+180
Comfortable, Snugly fits on, Tight, Don't need much more paint
I think the biggest tank is 20oz co2
Wearing this pack on my back/waist is no burden. I hardly notice it at all if you fit it on right. It provides you with more than enough paint for a game. I don't think someone can go through 4 100round pods and a full hopper and complain. Seriously, it's all you need. You might need more than one air tank, but since the biggest tank it can fit is a 20oz CO2, you can get a good half case in before an airfill, which should last you for at least more than a game.
WAY cheaper than the other packs out on sale, and it delivers. It's not cheaply made nor is it "second-rate" to dye/redz...it just doesn't have the "brand-name." You can even unstitch the name out if you want...I highly recommend it all-in-all.
Hmmm, well, it was decently comfortable....thats about it
CHEAP! so cheap, my 20oz co2 tank busted threw the bottomin a matter of months
I heard a lot of good things from Ronin Gear, so I picked up the 4+1...bad news, in about 15 uses my remote c02 tank basted threw the bottom of the harness. I don't think Ronin is going to help me out either, as they dont seem to enjoy answering e-mail...
Buy a reds, or anything, just not this. I bought it brand new and it got ripped to shreds.
umm some 14 dollar one i saw at a local store 2 pod holder
spyder imagine, ricochet ak , sartparts teardrop, 12 oz co2
cant find any except hard to tighten but it ok
this is a great harness it carries 4 140/100 round pods and a 20 oz (or smaller) co2 tank.it's a great comfy snug harness. it is tight fitting east to use. i thre this as far as i could on concrete and no podz came out. it is alsome i think the best first harness ever. go for this for your first harness... if you any questions about this or paintball in general im me at DCpntbllr.
i reccommend this product for a first harness or even a rec players harness
spyder xtra with a j&j ceramic barrel. 91ci 4500 psi tank
light, durable, holds 140 rd pods also
not velcro only holds up to a 20 oz tank
this is a good harness, made to endure playing in the field. comes with 4 100 rd pods , but can hold the bigger 140 rd pods. front part of the harness is a buckle. a velcro strap here would have been better, still the straps can be adjusted. some people i know have complained that when opening a strap to take out a pod,that it opens the pod accidentally.this can be solved be making sure your pod's lids are twisted so that you do not open them, when you pull the pod straps
good harness if you are lokking for something light, not to much pods, and is cheap.
I got mine for 20 dollars, the cheapest i could find. For the price it is very nice, stays in place better than most more expensive packs ive used. It's kinda uncomfortable for me, the pods dig in my sides a bit, not very much though, thats probably universal with horizontal pod packs. The pods it comes with are ultra cheap and should be replaced immediately, the lids break off way too easy, but even with 4 pods its cheaper than most other packs. It has a big ugly logo on it i covered up with tape.
Buy it if your budget minded, there are better packs im sure but not for 20 dollars.
Cheap, Can get on ebay for about 11 bux, can use suspenders
Ugly white patch, Needed to add extra velcro to strap down bottle
This is a great inexpensive harness. I like it. It can carry 140's or 100's pods. It has loops for suspenders. You can pick it up on ebay for about 11 bux. The white patch is hideos. I had to add extra velcro to the bottle straps becuase it lacked it.
Go buy one. there worth it. You wont be dissapointed
i have an 8+1 and a mil-spec combat harness that i use
A-5 RT (not modded yet), Armotech Zeus w/ quick-cap, Spyder sumthin-or-the-other (lots of mods), and a $20 pump thing
works good, fits nice, does its job, the suspender attachment points are a good feature
well it sticks out some @ the sides, a vertical system might be better.
The price I paid cant be beat. $20 for the harness, and it came with (4) 100 rnd guppies. How can you beat that price. Anyways, it also fits 140 rnd guppies (which is what I use). I now use something else, so now my son uses this setup, and I added some load-bearing suspenders to the rig so he can carry more shtuff. It is good that this system has attachment points for a 4-point suspender system. (Some rigs only have attachment points for a 3-point suspender system, so if you are a suspender user, pay attention to this!) Also, the pod sleeves have stiffeners in them, so they hold their shape when you remove the pod, staying open for you so you can easily re-insert your pod while under fire. THIS IS A MOST NECESSARY FEATURE! ALL HARNESSES SHOULD HAVE THIS! Anyway, the only shortcoming is the fact that the pods stick out some at both sides of your waist. If you have a 36 inch waist this (might) not be a factor. But if you are average to slender (like me) than you might take hits in your pods with this rig. My son (12 ys old) has already taken hits on this harness, which sucks because his small size should be used for total advantage. I am looking into getting a vertical setup for him to replace this.
A vertical setup with comparable features is more expensive that the Ronin setup, so the Ronin makes a really good entry harness, and I think it will last a long time.
tacamo 68D plain hoper soon to be electric 20 oz spyder co2 tank with spyder remote coil
Cheap price, holds plenty of balls and made of durable material.
Should have more straps to hold in the 20oz tank.
I like this product over all it holds a good amount of balls with out going over board alot of reviews on here mentiond it was made cheapley personaly i think its made of a thick durable material the onley real down fall is i find the 20 oz co2 tank could be fastend in a little beter but not a real problem.
Double trigger, Rocket Cock, trigger mods
This harness pretty much does what is says, holds paint and CO2. Yay.
Downside is, its a very poorly thought out design. The straps for your CO2 DONT FIT PROPERLY around a tank, leading to lots of fiddly sorting out before and after a game, Did they even test this thing before they put it into production?
I read reviews about the tank ripping out the bottom of the holder, very concerned about this and will be keeping an eye on it, possibly doing some reinforced stitching of my own. It looks like there's only one seam holding it together at the bottom. From a design perspective, thats just plain stupid.
While it does what it says, poor design and cheap production both annoy me greatly in the field and make me nervous as to the life of this product. No attention to detail lets this harness down for me.