Jungle Green SP-8
Tactical Rail Kit
Stealth Barrel kit
TechT L6 Lightening Bolt
Smart Parts 360 QEV or Clippard QEV
CP Regulator, Long
PMI Pure Energy 68/4500 HPA
OpsGear 18" Interceptor barrel
Tasco BKRD30 RedDot Sight
Viewloader Evo II hopper
Tippmann Triumph SSL-200 hopper
Ease of installation, cost
Ineffective / less effective than Clippard QEV
I ran over 500 balls through my marker tonight, specifically to test QEV's, and wanted to post results.
Smart Parts SP-8 (for those that don't already know, the SP-8 has Ion internals)
Tech-T L6 bolt
Pure Energy 68/4500 HPA tank on a PMI remote
Scenario Dreams T-board
(everything else should be irrelevant or explained below)
While I would have liked a better chrono for the tests, I had to settle for my handheld Radarchron unit.
What prompted this test was a game I played the other week where shots were jumping all over and I suspected inconsistent velocity. This was just after adding a Smart Parts QEV as well, I might add - I'd previously used the Clippard.
Test conditions were an indoor rec-ball field, about 15-degrees Celcius. Paint was fresh X-Ball Silver.
The Chronowas held in the same position and reset for each shot. Shots were taken at somewhat consistent intervals. If a break was needed, the first shot was ignored due to drop off potential. There was no 1st-shot-drop compensation active on the board.
Smart Parts 360 QEV
consistency: +/- 12 fps
dwell 34ms (T-board default)
consistency: +/- ??? fps
Balls went all over with these settings. There didn't seem to be a median - it ranged 10 to 15fps in either direction. Truly bad.
consistency: +/- 9 fps
This was a bit better.
Clippard QEV - installed using carefully applied teflon tape; no leaks detected
consistency: +/- 3 fps
consistency: +/- 4 fps
I settled on the Test 5 dwell of 13ms - slightly less consistent shot to shot but likely much more air efficient - with the Clippard QEV. The Smart Parts 360 is in my parts box now and I have no intention of reinstalling it.
I don't know how or why a QEV could make a difference in shot to shot consistency but with about 100 shots per test, I feel confident the Clippard squarely beats the Smart Parts 360.
I would like to hear anyone else's take on this - suggestions for other tests, critique of my methodology and so on.
FWIW, Alex, my friend who works at PBL, indicates his Ion (same internals - L6 bolt, Clippard QEV) has a dwell of 12.5ms and shoots extremely consistently.
Maybe I got a bad 360 QEV but I have to give this one a below average rating.
4 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, November 11th, 2006 at 6:21 am PST
SP swivel qev
Kila '06 detents
VP Scythe trigger
CP Micro drop
CP 2k5 on/off
CCM No Pro
Halo B w/ Rip Drive
Screws on like a banjo fitting.
Works great, end of story.
Have to shave a little in the frame (see review).
Didn't actually need a new qev, since the Clippard worked fine, but i was getting tired of removing it and it got to the point where sealing it was a chore (o-rings it came with just didn't cut it). So i kept calling the local shop until they got some of these swivel qevs in. Yay, they got a bunch last week.
Installation = simple. Just like a banjo fitting. But it's got the barb connection instead of the stock banjo's push-in-then-pull-out connection. So the swivel qev is a little longer, meaning you have to cut a tiny bit off the hose. Easy to measure, i discovered - measure the length of the swivel qev's barb then cut that same length off the hose. Perfect.
Played all day Saturday and wow, the qev works great. I was getting 12 pods off a 3k fill, no joke. That comes to about 1500-1600 balls, since a 140 ct. pod doesn't actually hold 140 paintballs. More like 130-135, depending on the brand. But still, nearly a case off a tank that wasn't even filled to its 4500 potential. Pretty sweet. I was getting similar results with the Clippard, though. In other words, any qev = awesome.
Now the only weakness - the swivel qev is just a tad taller than the stock banjo. But that tiny bit creates a hair width gap between the body & the frame. Doesn't affect performance at all but it might bother some people.
Easiest remedy is take a drill with a drill bit that's the same width as the head of the qev (part where allen key goes in), find where the qev touches the frame and drill only slightly into it. Don't need to go deep, since you don't want to punch a hole in the frame.
Works great, installs easy enough. Recommended over standard qevs. SP's swivel qev belongs on Ions, all other qevs belong on cockers.
Before I start the review... please read the whole thing(even the conclusion). I dont want a stupid reason for a dispute. I know alot about my Ion, and how to work them very well. I can fix my own problems, etc. I know this review didnt give the 360 a good rating... but like I said, I know my Ion. I know what is a good dwell, and what is not.
Ok, so I picked one of these up again. I used to have one, but threw it out because I was sick of changing orings when my bumper oring wore down too much(from high cycle speeds). So I picked up a firebolt like 2 months later, then later picked up the 360 again. I installed it, lowered my dwell to about 10 with the input at 150ish.
Velocity was too low, so I bumped it up to 15.. Velocity was still too low, bumped it to 18. Too low. Bumped it to 22. Velocity was 285 finally.
-t's swivel, so you dont have to be aligned right like the other qev's
-No more tefloning threads to seal like other qev's
-really easy to install. It works like a banjo, so just put the hose in, screw it in, and vwala.
-Keeps lube out of solenoid(just like all qev's).
-Hit or miss. SP in my opinion has quality control issues. Theyre Ion reg is a hit or miss. You either get decent consistency, or terrible. Same with this. You either get a good dwell amount, or not.
-No QD. It isnt a problem for me at least. I dont even care for it, since I never take the qev out of the hose.
Many people on pbnation complain about their dwell being at the 20's with a bolt and qev. Some say they get in the 'teens with just a 360 qev. I understand all guns are different, but when we're talking 22 dwell flashes for someone with this qev and bolt, versus a guy with 15 flashes and stock bolt and 360 qev, there is something up. Plus, 22 is too high. For those who dont know. Too high of a dwell will cause inefficiency.
SP has some quality control issues, so beware. THere are more misses than hits. I dont really recommend this unless if you are annoyed with a simple tefloning and are looking for a very simple install. Simplicity wise, the sp 360 is great. When it comes to quality, I'd take a virtue, ndz, ans, etc to be safe.
I'm sorry, but from my experience, this gets a 6. The quality wasnt great, SP will not replace it for me either(so dont try arguing on that point). Im no Ion hater, or an SP hater coming here to give products a bad rating. 6 is still above average, since 5 is average....just mentioning that for those who dont understnad that.
6 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, July 8th, 2006 at 9:11 am PST
This 360 QEV has made my ion's drop off nothing. Also my bolt cycles faster than it has ever before. Combined with a new bolt and a new board you will reach over 20+ bps easily. And when you buy a Halo this QEV will be very useful. This is to just get the minimum word count.
Smart Parts ION
Allows faster cycling
Well i just got this neat little bugger today and it is really neat.
First for installation, it goes in the middle banjo fittings place, for all who don't know. Then when installing you need to clip a bit of the hose off for it to fit, just a hair more than the barb length itself works well. then pop it in, set your dwell to around 12-15 and your ready to go.
Works great though, better efficiency, and the faster cycling.
Great product, i give it a 9.8, round to a 10. Only bad thing is you have to clip the hose off a bit.
SP All American Barrel
SP Max Flo Micro
SP 360 QEV
SP Q-lock Feedneck
Empire Reloader B
VP Scythe Trigger
Easy to install and remove during disassambly
It makes the ion work better, period
More expensive than other QEVs
This is a must have upgrade for any Ion owner. I was able to reduce my dwell down to 10 flashes from bottom and my input pressure down to about 160. This little upgrade also seemed to help a little with the shoot down problem that the Ion has with the stock regulator. The big thing that sets this QEV apart is that it is easy to remove during maintenance. It is about $5 more expensive than the others but it is worth it.
Update: I have to add a word of warning to anyone who has purchased or will be purchasing ANY qev for their ion. The increased speed of the bolt causes extreme amounts of wear on the bumper o-ring at the front of the bolt. When I strip and cleaned my gun after my last day of play the o-ring was destroyed. The only remedy for this is to get a lighter bolt which will reduce the force that the ring experiences.
Great upgrade that anyone should put on their ion.
Update: I have reduced my review of this item from a 10 to a 9 because I feel Smart Parts should give warning about the possible damage this upgrade can cause.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, June 24th, 2006 at 10:55 pm PST
-Smart Parts Ion, 14" Dye Ultralite, Smart Parts Q-Lock, Kila Detents, CIP Unimount, 68/3000 Crossfire, CP Sling Blade, SP 360 QEV, AKA 2-Liter +, Dye Sticky 3 Grips
-None so far
Well after ordering this and constant chats with Smart Parts sales reps for six weeks I finally received this qev. Ever since I got my ion I've wanted to add a qev to it, but was waiting for smart parts to release a banjo style one. The 360 was the answer to what I had been waiting for so as soon as I could I ordered one. After waiting forever I finally got it. Install is very simple, just remove stock banjo from hose, then take some shocker lube or w/e grease you use in your gun and apply some to the barb fitting (this allows the hose to slide on much much easier), take same allen wrench that you use to thread and unthread the stock banjos and thread in the 360, find a rof calculator to adjust the dwell and recharge rates, chrono, adjust pressure or dwell to acheive proper velocity, and your good to go. Just a side note some have noticed the qev is too tall to fit snugly inside the frame to allow the body to sit flush. I did not have this problem but those that did simply tightened the qev more and they were good.
If you dont want the hassle of having to use teflon or loctite to get your clippard style or eclipse qevs to seal then go for this one. Or if you just want the ease of the stock fittings combined with the benefits seen with the installation of a qev go for this one.
ANS Blue to Black Frame and Body
Virtue Board and LAser Eyes
CP Roller Trigger
Eclipse On Off
Freadk 14" Barrel Kit
Smart PArts QEV
Easy to istall
Okay first off i didnt have any problems installing my QEV i didnt have to shave anything at all.. There is no gap between my body and frame or anything so i dunno.. BUt any way great QEV works great increases cycle rate makes you shoot faster and use less air.. what else can you want... Buy it its a great upgrade and its cheap... easy to intsall and greatly improves performance just dont forget to lower your dwell when you install the QEV
New Designz QEV
Other Clippard type QEVs
Smarts Parts Ion
Smart Parts All-American/Freak Tip 14-inch black/red (.689)
Dye Ultra-lite 14-inch black/red (.692)
Smart Parts 360 QEV
Custom Products trigger red
Trinity 05 Body black
Hybrid Grips CK
Hybrid Low Feed Neck red
New Designz Detents
Shocktech on/off ASA red
Shocktech #1 Rail red
Cross Fire 68/4500 fiber
Super Easy to install
Quiet (other ones pop)
None at all
After trying almost every other QEV out there. Most of the other ones leaked all the time or just do not fit right. I gave up and put my banjo fitting back on and raised my dwell up again. I was told by Smart Parts to wait for this one it will solve all of your problem. So I did, I payed in full at my local dealer for one and a few weeks later it came. I slapped it on gased up the marker BAM no leaks!!! I have brought my dwell back down to 15 clicks and my pressure to about 160PSI with the stock regulator. I'm gettting about 1600 shots out of my 68/4500 AWSOME!!!!!
Stop wasting time and go out and get one ASAP.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, February 27th, 2006 at 1:19 pm PST
SP 360 QEV
VP Scythe Trigger
Dye Sticky Grips
CP Long Reg
PMI Pure Energy 68/4500
Simple and easy to install. Works perfectly for me. No cutting to install.
None that I can find, works good for me.
I got a really good price on the Smart Parts 360 QEV so I picked it up even though everyone was suggesting against it. Came in the mail, installed it, tuned it. Worked perfectly at 14 dwell. So I got what was called a "hit". Reduced air consumption from about 1200 shots on my 68/4500 to about 1600 shots a fill. Not really much to say besides it works and I would recommend it. If you are weary about it, buy a clippard.
I like the product, it installed easy, no cutting, and it worked well for me.