talons, blades, sterling pump (dont know which one)
Pro Carbine- w/ armson pro series 13in barrel, smart parts all american ss,dye sticky grips, venturi bolt, iisports custom hammer, 12oz w/butt plate, bipod
Pmi Trracer pump backup- armson pro series 13in barrel
NSG Splatmaster sidearm
new barrel (duh) bottemline if you can find one, velocity adjusting bolt (standard one only)
* simple design
* durable construction
* lightweight body
* accurate (even with the horrible stock barrel)
* air efficiant
* fast firing for a pump ( auto trigger)
* light pump
* hard to find barrels
* no velocity adjustment (older ones only)
* needs bottemline( for easier aiming
* hard to find
* stock barrel (what gun's stock barrel doesn't suck?)
* no ball detent (the worst part about gun)
buy one and play pump, u will get a lot better and it is more of a challenge. dont use this as a first gun though, you wont be able to keep up with semis
9 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, May 6th, 2004 at 6:49 pm PST
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If you can find one a new barrel would be nice but by no means necessary
save on co2 and paint
It is a pump so you may get out shot by guys packing a semi
Fairly recently i bought a Spyder mr1 and took it to a scenario game. Unfortunatly the paint they provided had a tendancy to break in the barrel (I wasn't the only one with this problem, it happened to almost everyone regardless of the gun they used) and part of the shell jammed my gun luckily i had also brought my tracer. It shot fine all day and broke maybe four balls.
A lot of reviews reccomend a bottomline. I don't have one, and so far haven't needed one.
The tracer is the most reliable gun I have ever seen. You could throw it in a lake, fish it out the next day and immediatly start playing(not that i reccomend this).
It's the first gun I bought, and still my most reliable.
Trracer Tagmaster with adjustable bolt, gas through stock, and a Tasco Red Dot sight
A gas through stock, bottom line, or a remote, so you are able to sight over the marker
Smooth Pump stroke
Efficient with CO2, even in cold weather
Loud, about the same as an Impy with a Progressive
This gun has a very nice pump stroke, it is also very light. The main thing is the maintenance of this gun, it is very simple to field strip, there are only 4 parts to the internals including the ASA, spring, bolt, and hammer. The Tagmaster version comes with the adjustable bolt, which was my main concern, to be able to easily adjust the velocity. The gun is very accurate out of the box, and i was able to mark people out from about 60 feet easily. I was able to mark someone out through a hole in a bunker that was about the size of a CD with 4 shots. The pump Stroke is smooth enough to where i was able to keep up with most semis on an airball field. Those semis included 'cockers and impies. With good tactics, you are easily able to get people out with one or two shots. Gogging someone comes naturally with this gun.
I would definately recommend the purchase of this marker. I got mine on Ebay with only $45 and this included the marker, hopper, a 9 oz tank, and gas through stock. It was definately a good price for the performance.
About the 9 Rating, no gun is perfect, so until one is made (which will never happen) no gun i review will get a 10 rating.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, July 14th, 2004 at 4:00 pm PST
Red Dot Sight
Custom Ported Barrel
new barrel, bottom line or a dot sight
-if you use it right it saves paintballs
-limited ball breaks using small paintballs
-be skilled if u play agaisnt Semi`s Ect.
-the stock barrel needs small paintballs
this gun("marker" for pc people) is very effective at a low price. The accuracy is amazing when compared to my friends' markers(sypders mostly) and it can hold its own on speedball and woodsball. It gets attention before the game, and even more after.
Pro: -Gets people off their gaurd when they see you with a pump
Con:-c02 goes in an odd place that limits aiming(red dot puts it more up to your eye)
Pro:-still works after been laying around a few years
Awesome gun. low maintance off feild with ease of use on field.
other then the barrel breaks when using the bigger paintballs it has worked prefectly.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, June 13th, 2003 at 5:41 am PST
PMI Trracer pump with stock barrel
Tippmann A-5 with R/T and stock barrel
Rugged, low maintenance.
Accurate stock barrel.
Needs bottom line.
It's a pump.
Hard to find, as are parts.
This was my first gun, and got me into the sport much better than most of it's price range. The stock accuracy is excellent, and that is what really makes it. It's really the only low-end pump that you can take right out of the box and start actually racking up the kills right off. Other low-end guns are often frustratingly flimsy and inaccurate.
This gun pretty much can't be topped in durability, and has a great feel as well, despite the nylon grip handle. I've played with it for about a year and bought it used, but I've never had anything work any less than perfect. My friend's Trracer is even older and he reports the same... never a hitch.
I bought my Trracer for 30 bucks used, which seems to me one of the best ways to get into paintball and actually enjoy it without committing to a long-term investment. Although I'll almost guarantee you'll be hooked once you start, and find your investments justified, you also won' t be let behind with this gun. They can be slightly hard to find, however, considering they're discontinued. ACI owns the license now, and sells them with velocity adjuster under the name Maverick. If you buy a Maverick, however, make sure it's the pump... the semi-auto version is a totally different gun, and a pretty much a piece of trash.
It pumps smoothly, for more accuracy, and you can hold down the trigger and pump for auto-style action. This technique, however, loses accuracy and range the faster you pump, especially without a bottomline.
As for accuracy, I've been amazed at some of the shots I've been able to make. My buddy (who is a much better aim than I), pegs me in the mask all the time with his from 75-90 feet. 100+ feet seems to be a little much for this gun, but for the price, that's amazing. With a velocity adjuster, you can make sure you're as close to the limit as possible.
For newbies, this gun is sublime. Like I said before, with decent equipment, you *will* be hooked, but don't turn yourself off from the sport with a bad starter gun. The only real pump disadvantage is you can't shoot one handed, or any where near accurately while running.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, May 23rd, 2003 at 1:46 pm PST
a carter buzzard- they are both accurate but the carter is by far the superior marker.
spyder compact with dye excel barrel, new designz bolt and java expansion chamber
a new quieter barrel, a 12 gram changer
accurate, light weight, smooth pump stroke, CO2 consumption, sleek look.
Loud, barrel bore is very small, chops if not right size paint is used
The moment i opened the packaging of this marker i fell in love with it. it just looks awesome and it was my first pump. Now to the review. At first glance at this marker I noticed how sturdy this gun felt. it didnt feel cheap considering what i paid for it. but looks could be decieving i thought, so I head out to my back yard and tested it out. I gassed it, cocked it, and pulled the trigger. At that moment I realized what the other people in the forums were talking about. it was loud. So i tuned it set the velocity on the bolt all the way down. It was still loud. but i didnt really mind. I tried out the auto trigger. it shot at a decent rate but I'll admit I'll never use it in a game. I began practicing my snap shots with it and i was able to pull of some quick ones thanks to the marker extreme light weight. It felt like a was holding a feather in my hands, and I was using a 7 oz tank. I then was just shooting for accuracy. i was able to knock off mostly all of my mini tree houses i have on the tree outside from about 40 feet away. I was able to hit a pole in my fence that is about 3 inches in diameter from about 35 feet away consistantly. Shot after shot, i was hitting my targets exactly were I wanted to. from testing this marker I think that its affective range is 90 ft. with a good barrel and some fine tuning it would move up to about 100 ft. the only notible problem that I had with it is that once in a while it would double feed and shoot two rounds at a time. but it rarely happened and it doesn't really pose any problem.
i would definetly recommened this marker to the person who wants to use a pump and doesn't have alot of cash. This marker is so good, i made two of my cousins want to ditch there semis and move up to a pump gun. This marker would get a ten if it was quieter.
Few Barrel Options
Bore Drop Means Potential Roll-Out with Small Paint
It was my first Nelson based marker. It took a while to adjust to the arc in the shot that the these type of valves typically produce.
Efficiency was good. I started with about 8 ounces of CO2 in the tank, and after a bag of paint, I had about 3 ounces left. Not bad, I think, for a cold day with temps in the 60s.
Accuracy and consistency was not bad for old Evil paint. The Evil was at the point where it was different sizes, so I would get either a lot of breaks, or no breaks with an occasional roll out. Some of my shots would be on target, and some would be spinners. At the chrono, when I had drained enough liquid from the CO2 tank after a full fill, I saw +/- 1 fps, discounting the occasional odd sized paintballs.
Setup was very light: 2 lbs 15 oz with a full 9 oz tank and no paint. It made it very fun to run around with.
Pump stroke was decent. Not smooth like a Sniper, or Phantom, but no less functional.
I think this is a great starter pump paintball marker for budget conscious players. It can be had for $25 to $50 used, or $90 brand new. A 50 round hopper and elbow will only run you $5 to $10, and a 9 oz to 12 oz tank at $15 to $20. Pick up a barrel cover, battle swab, squeegee, a bag of paint, and a couple of 30 rnd pods to throw in your pockets, and you are good to go as far as your marker setup.
It does not need any upgrades, unless you want a quieter barrel. The stock barrel is loud. Also, it is is a bore-drop marker, so you will need to deal with roll-out. There are a number of tricks that work well like wedgits, nail polish, or tape in the barrel.
With fresh WPN Weapons Grade paint, I experienced breaks only when I double fed.
I also had purchased another Tagmaster as well as a Trracer. Between the Trracer and the Tagmaster, the Trracer had a much smoother and stable pump stroke.
On one of the Tagmasters I installed an adjustable venturi bolt. I noticed that it was a bit quieter than the others. The loudest Trracer was the Tagmaster without the CO2 filter. It also seemed the most consistent.
Without the anti-double pump feature, it's easy for the pump handle to slide back during play, resulting in double-feeding. You know if you have this feature if the top of the trigger on the inside of the frame has a metal square that catches on the front of the sear.
I think this is a great marker for beginning players or those who do not want to spend much, yet want a decent setup. I give it a ten, because I feel it is the best marker at its price range without sacrificing performance, reliability, and ease of maintenance.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, June 16th, 2008 at 12:01 pm PST
Smooth Pump Stroke
No Ball Detent
Can't Adjust velocity.
Alright, so my WGP Pump kit didnt come in time from White Wolf, so i couldn't use my cocker at SPE. So instead i rented a Trracer. Its a very nice looking gun and light weight, but not as light as a phantom. I went to the chrono station and fired off a couple shots to get the feel of the pump, accuracy, and of course the FPS. I must say that the pump stroke (to me at least) is better than a phantom. Accuracy is great but at long range gets pretty bad. The FPS barely strayed 4 bps everytime.
PMI Trracer Final Statements:
Exterior: Looks very nice and simple on the outside, very clean cut. Would be better if it was not right feed but center feed or even perhaps stock class! I wish it wasn't backbottle because trying prop up the c02 on your shoulder and aim isnt that fun.
+Pump: Best pump stroke ever (except for the j2) and autotrigger is awesome!
+Durability: Very durable, but not as much as like a Tippmann A-5 (which is like a tank). You can crawl anywhere and not worry about messing up this gun.
+Barrel: Cant find a barrel anywhere.
+Misc Parts: Very very hard to find parts at all, the worst problem is that you cant adjust velocity on the older models.
In Game: Works like a dream in game, although I am relatively new to pumps i have been hanging around them long enough to know what to do.
+Accuracy: Great until your about 60 feet away from someon.
+Range: Argh...Weltman and his friends were longballing me from across the woodball field and i could barely hit them. Not a strong point on this gun.
+Volume: It's sort of loud but it blends in with everyone else.
+Misc Parts: NO BALL DETENT, this got me mad. Balls were rolling out whenever i would lean my barrel down. You would basically have to get a drill press and make one your self if you wanted one. If you get a ball break you have to shoot out the break (only on older models)
Overall: Great gun for the price you can find it on eBay ($40) I suggest for beginners only or people looking to have a little custom job
Official Ninjers Rating: 7/10
7 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, April 10th, 2005 at 4:17 pm PST
Very reliable!!! Can shoot any kind of paint. I know a kid at my field who has one and after every game he goes out and fills up his hopper. He will come with like 200 brass eagle for the first couple of games. The gun never breaks paint and can shoot far and accurate
Loud and thats about it.
Great entry level gun. Or even advanced. I love mine go buy one.
ghetto spyder compact base with:
expansion chamber/ bottom line
flame drop forward
3000psi 8cu tank
various other little parts
fast rate of fire (for pump)
just awsome as hell
its a pump, obvious disadvantages
i dont know how, but this gun totaly owns. ive seen the most outrageous amazing shots made with this thing. my friend shot his brother in the mask across a field, through thick brush, with one shot fired. maybe its just my perticular gun, but this thing is legendary. ive only put about 150 rounds through it and about 10 of those were hits. thats a damn good ratio. this gun is godlike, if you have one, hang on to it, or give it to me.