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VForce Grill Mask Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
60 |
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Average Rating: |
9.4 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$90 |
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The GRILL sets the new trend with its intense look of pure attitude. The unmatched comfort of this lightweight masterpiece inspires total focus on your game.
New QuickChange ClikDry Foam keeps you dry, even in the harshest conditions. The new sunglass-inspired low profile lens offers the m |
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| The VForce Grill Mask is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. Check out the Places to Buy links below for places to purchase it new. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 43 of 46 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Products Used: |
jt nvader
dye invision
dye i3 |
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| Marker Setup: |
05 BLUE TO SILVER FADE EGO W/NEXUS BOLT, TI RAM
DYE 71CU 4500PSI THROTTLE SYSTEM
HALO B W/SPEED WHEEL |
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| Strengths: |
Looks
Light
Very flexible
Easy to clean
Easy to disassemble, re-assemble
Communication
Comfort
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| Weaknesses: |
A LITTLE TO FLEXIBLE
or A LITTLE TO OPEN HOLES, ON THE MOUTH PART |
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| Review: |
up until i bought this mask, the only really high end mask i had owned was my dye masks, but upon purchasing the grill mask i was dumbfounded to how easy everything on the mask was... after my first game with the mask i really found out how different the mask made me feel, and how easy it was to forget that i was wearing the mask... i played the entire day and the mask did not fog up once.. i got shot in the lenses, touched them, washed them with water, and all i did was wipe them with a good microfiber cloth and bam it was back to business..
every thing on the mask was awesome except for one thing and that was the flexibility in the mask.. which i will explain later on..
pros:
no fogging at all, when it a little warm outside i sweat, if i start moving around a lot i sweat, not because Im, not fit, but because i just sweat, and very easily. so when im in the middle of a game i sweat bullets, and when i bought my others masks they worked awesome the first time i used them.. but towards the end of the day, they would start to fog up. but not these mask, they stayed clear throughout the whole day, even when i got home and tried breathing on them they still stayed clear as day...
the mask was super light, lighter than any other mask i have worn, i didn't have any trouble with it, i didn't have to tighten the mask to much to make sure that it did not fall off, that was a plus for me because when i tighten a mask a little to much it starts to give me a headache
i love the way that you dont need a a crowbar to take out the lenses, you would think other companies would have taken that into mind ( dye... cough.. cough..) but its as easy as the profilers, and not only that but its easier..
taking the lenses out is not even the half of it, but the foam is just as easy as the lens, not only that but replacing the strap is a very easy as well infact the only way to get the lenses out is to release the strap. then putting it back together is just as easy as reversing the steps.
communication, is vital when on the field and without it could be the difference between winning and losing.. but talking with the grillz on is as easy as talking to someone with it off. i could yell out and the whole field can here me.
the flexablity of the mask was great as well it was more flexable then the i3's. and didnt get any hits on the bottom part of the mask just one, but even though im sure i can get a couple of easy bounce of it.
the comfort of the mask was also great nothing suprizing but still very grateful for.
cons:
i put this review that the flexability and openess of the mask was a pro but, it was also a con, i put it because i was not sure if it was the ease of flexing the mask or it was the open breathing holes in the front, the reason because i got hit right in the mouth part of the mask and it busted my lip and all the paint went into mu mouth. this was either the cause of one or it was just a double wammy, and my lip was not gushing blood but it got a cut on it, and i was not sure if the mask had bent back and hit my lip or the gelitin shards had enuff force and went through the mask and cut my lip.. so i added both..
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| Conclusion: |
All in all i this mask is now my favorite and it is going to stay my favorite, if you want all of the pluses of a paintball mask get this one, dont worry about a busted lip from time to time, if you can take a ball to the neck you can take one to the mouth..
buy this mask.. it cost money because the money was well used into making it... dont think buy... go now, stop reading this review and buy one....... now. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Monday, December 11th, 2006 at 12:39 am PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 12 of 14 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Profiler
Invision family
Jt Spectra |
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| Strengths: |
Quick change system
No fog
lense clarity
Excellent ventilation
Bounce potential
IMO, looks
comfort |
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| Weaknesses: |
The mask has a small profile, some may feel that their chin is exposed.
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| Review: |
The Grill is the best mask I have used. Most high end masks have one noticeable deficiency. The invisons and Jt's all have a difficult lense change system. In addition The invisions don't have the peripheral vision of other high end masks. I have never used the Event system, but i have heard they have ventilation issues. The Grill does not have any such fault. The same people who complain about protection on any high end mask will complain about a lack of chin and throat protection, but this is not a real fault. The peripheral vision is uninhibited, although the lense gets narrow in the front. The narrowness does not detract from the fov, however. The comfort of the mask is excellent. It is comfortable the same way the profiler was, so if you thought the profiler was comfortable you will find this comfortable as well.
The quick change system on this mask makes it possible to remove the foam. You can take the lense out in under 10 seconds without any difficulty, and to remove the foam only takes another 10 seconds at most. This feature, in particular the speedy lense removal, is not just a gimmick. Everyone should wash their lense after using it, and having a difficult lense removal either causes lackluster maintenance or inconvenience.
The absolute most important attribute of a mask is its lense. The Grill lens offers unobstructed vision, but also never fogs. Well, I should say hasn't fogged. Personally i don't think it will, because the thermocure method of fog prevention seems to work better than thermal lenses. My Spectra lense never fogged perse, but it became less clear. What i mean is that there was never condensation but visibility suffered noticeably. Thermal lenses have a tendancy to trap water when they are washed also. I have heard anecdotes of Invisions, the Flex family, and Protos fogging. You almost never hear about a Profiler or Grill fogging though. This mask would probably be the least likely to fog of any mask.
People have stated that the coating wheres off on V-force lenses. It has never been a problem for anyone I know, and it obviously hasn't been a problem in the time I have owned a Grill, but even if this does happen it probably has more to do with improper treatment than lense quality. If the coating does where off it could also be that you kept the lense for longer than a year, which you technically shouldn't anyway.
Another little touch on the mask that was nice. The mask is mostly very flexible, except for around the lenses, and on the upper part of the sides. What was nice was that the rigid section on the sides goes down just far enough to keep your ears from being hit by the flexible part. |
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| Conclusion: |
I highly recommend the Grill. It is less than the Event and I3 pro, and yet IMO better. If money is really an issue, I would get a profiler, as they are IMO the second best mask, next to the Grill. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Monday, January 15th, 2007 at 4:42 pm PST |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 12 of 17 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Empire E'vents
Dye I3's |
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| Marker Setup: |
Bob Long Marq6/Onyx
Kila Products 4 Eye System
Dye Ultralite Barrel
Draxxus Pulse
PMI 68/45 Tank |
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| Strengths: |
-Awesome Looking
-East to Dissasemble
-Very Comfortable |
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| Weaknesses: |
-No other lenses |
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| Review: |
These googles are great compared to my E'vents. They make you look like you are pissed off at everything. They are very intimidating to other players. It has removeable foam for when you get your old foam all wet and smelly. The goggles have very great field vision and they come out very, very easily. I definately recommened these goggles over all the 07 line. Oh...By the way it also came with a mask bag, removeable chin strap, and a visor. |
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| Conclusion: |
Buy them. Really. I give them a 9/10...Nothing is perfect. |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Friday, December 8th, 2006 at 7:03 pm PST |
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Tuesday, February 20th, 2007 |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 7 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Products Used: |
V-Force Profiler, JT Pro-Flex, DYE I3, Ventz |
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| Marker Setup: |
2006 Cyborg
PBK Sabre Trigger
06 Sonic Clamping Feedneck
PowerLyte Barrel Kit
CP mini-rail w/CP on off
2005 Ion
CCM Clamping Feedneck
NDZ Diamond Body
NDZ Firing Can/Breech/Swivel Doughnut
NDZ Detents
NDZ QEV
SP Blackheart Board
SP Firebolt
Virtue Laser Eyes (Blue)
ANS Xtrme Roller Trigger
CP Longbottom Reg
CP Direct Mount On/Off |
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| Strengths: |
Light, Small, Flexible, Easy change lens, Comfortable |
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Price, Small |
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| Review: |
I picked up the Grill last Saturday. The first thing I noticed is how light the mask is. It weighs pretty much the same as the Profiler. It's just a little bit lighter but you would need a scale to tell exactly how much, we are talking mere ounces here.
The Grill is a pretty small mask. It covers close to the same amount of area as the DYE series masks. If you have a big beaner you might want to consider a different mask, either that or just start wearing a sandana. The lens area of the Grill is a lot smaller than that of the Profiler, but it in no way impedes on your vision when you have the mask on. The field of vision is exactly the same as the Profiler. I also put the mask being small as a weekness just because it does not protect as much area....but it isn't so small that it wont protect the vital areas of your head.
The majority of the Grill is flexible, which is good for bounces. The area around the lens is hard plastic helping to maintain the shape and structural strength of the mask. If you take a hit in the lower portion of the mask you might end up with a very minor welt on your chin or neck.
The lenses are very easy to change. Although when the mask is new the parts are stiff (mine still is, but I know other people who have had them since Cup and they get easier) but they will wear in. The lens is easier to put back in than the Profiler lenses (not that they are difficult) and seems to require less effort.
The Grill is just as comfortable as the Profiler in my opinion. The foam is a little stiff when it is brand new but I'm sure it will soften up over time. But it isn't so stiff that you would think you were wearing a low-end mask or anything. The foam pieces that rest just behind the ears (or are supposed to) are removeable. I have worn it with and without these foam pieces and the mask is comfortable either way. |
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I would recommend this mask to players who are looking for a really nice high-end mask. Because it is a little pricey I don't recommend it to the casual player, but rather to those who play more frequently. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 7 of 9 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 months |
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Products Used: |
I used a JT mask and its no where near as nice as the GRILLZ |
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| Marker Setup: |
CCI Phantom-Black
14'' barrel
13cu. in. tank
50 round hopper |
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| Strengths: |
Easy to clean
Light
NO FOGGING all day
Easy dissassembly |
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| Weaknesses: |
Price-but you pay for what you get and its the best! |
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This mask is the best ever. The large Vent holes by the mouth make it very easy to breath and to talk. When i talk to my friends during games its so easy to hear them. The flexability of this mask is crazy go nuts (wakawooooo) (ALICIA!!!) and you can get so many good bounces of of it.
Cons.- When you pull the mask apart to hard to fit it over your face, the center nose part pops out and then just pops back in. Its not a big deal but its kinda weird. |
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I recommend this mask to beginners and pros. ITS THE BEST!!! and like i said before the price is high but you pay for what you get. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, April 12th, 2007 at 8:23 am PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 7 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
JT Proflex, VForce Profiler, a couple of Proto masks |
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| Marker Setup: |
Black Ironmen DM6 with Tadao M6 upgraded board, 14' TI Boomstick, RF'd Pulse w/ Speed Feed, 68/45 Angel AIR with Guerrilla HP Reg. |
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| Strengths: |
It's very light and small, confortable. The "bouncy" areas really work well. |
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| Weaknesses: |
I'm still not totally convinced it's any safer than previous masks |
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| Review: |
First of all let me say that I still love my Profiler and even thou I like the Grill, I might be sticking with my older mask a litle longer. I'll get back to that later. As other VForce offerings I've tried before, this one screams quality the second you pull it out of its box. The first thing to notice even before you try it on is how light it really is. Side by side with a Proflex or the heavier Protos, there's no contest. Compared to the it's older brother, the Profiler, it's still lighter, but not by such margin. You'll literally forget you have it on, after a few minutes wearing it. It's very small as well, not sure it's the smallest on the market but I guess it's close enough.
The design on this thing is really clever, and it shows it the most on the surprisingly small lens it uses, much smaller than any other lenses available, and to their credit, the field of vision that was excellent on the Profiler, remains largerly unchanged or at least it feels this way. This is awesome, specially if you consider that the hardest part on a mask's always gonna be the lens, and by consequence it's the part paint's less likely to bounce off of. I suppose it's based on the lenses of sunglasses in its shape. I should point out that even thou it's advertised as being easier to replace the lens on this one, in my opnion the Profiler is still easier to change lenses.
Other innovations include a nifty foam system that can be replaced just as easily as the lenses or the strap, and the material of the lenses themselves, since they're supposed to release some photochromatic ones, that would change according to light conditions, but hasn't been released as of yet.
At first I didn't care much for the looks of this new mask, but it really grows on you. It makes you look very intimidating and somehow "pissed off", which is a lot better than the Profiler SE, that always makes me think of a clown or someone smiling.
As I said at the beggining of the review, I saw no reason to upgrade from the Profiler untill a few weeks ago, when during a game I got shot on the side of my mask and somehow the paint sprayed the "inside" of my lenses. It got me really worried about how proteticve it would really be and made me want a newer one. I finally decided for the Grill, but when I got it I noticed that it leaves a reasonably big gap on my forehead, where the top of the mask curves down (to give it that "pissed off" look) with enough space in between to squeeze a couple of "unlucky" balls. I haven't palyed with it enough to make sure this woudn't happen, but it looks damn right possible. |
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If you have a high end mask produced recently, I'd say there's not a a lot of reasons to get this one, specially if you already own a Profiler. In case you don't, this would certainly be a great upgrade, light, small and bouncy. I hope I'm wrong about the safety of this mask, so it gets.... |
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| Rating: |
| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, March 8th, 2007 at 2:57 pm PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 4 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
flex 8s, invisions, events |
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| Marker Setup: |
Black ETEK EGO
Vlocity Jr
68/3000 crossy
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PMR
UL frame
empire on/off |
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| Strengths: |
NO FOG
light
feel
flexible
clear lenses
looks
ease of lense and fog removal |
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| Weaknesses: |
None this is a perfect mask |
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| Review: |
I recieved this mask last weekend and let me say this is the best mask i have ever owned or used.
FOG: Whats there to say there is NONE. Not once did my lense fog throught the day of play.
Weight: Very light weight you cant even tell its on
Feel: it fits so perfect on your face its pure secks
Flexability: The mask is flexy enough to create bounces but not flexy enough that when you get hit your mouth gets hit to
Lenses: These lenses are amazing when i say amazing i mean it is 100% clear and visibliity is great aswell. these lenses are also capable of with standing shotgun shots and small caliber fire
Looks: I think they speack for themselves..they make you look pissed off and intimidating
Lense removal: It is very simple all you have to do is release the teath like mechanism holding the strap to the mask on both sides and then pull the slabs on the outside of the mask then just push the lense out...took me less then 1 min my first time. and for the foam removal do the above steps then get a coin and turn the circle thing under the slabs unlocking the foam(do this on both sides) then just snap the foam out
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This was the best 100 i have ever spent.... no more getting rid of fog after every game and it wont take 30 min to get the lense out anymore
this mask offers everything anyone could ever want and is a must buy |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| Only tested | 3 of 10 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Dye I3Pro, Empire Vents, Proto Standard Thermocured |
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| Marker Setup: |
Ego 07 Black Dust, Draxxus 68/45, Pulse |
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| Strengths: |
Looks & Visilibity |
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| Weaknesses: |
Fitting & Durability |
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So I went to my local paintball store knowing that the only thing I had money left for was a high end mask and I wasn't going to buy anything but a mask. I already used an Empire Vents mask and was somewhat pleased, but protection seemed... shall we say... lacking?
So as I was browsing the masks/goggles section, I came across 2 light weight masks that caught my attention. The Dye I3 Pro and the V-Force (DXS) Grill. Now the Grill is amazing in looks, however the fit on my head (could just be my head) seemed extremely off. The band/strap was extremely low on the back of my head, and the mask just didn't sit right.
Also the protection is definitely lacking. I can feel my chin showing, my jaw line is clearly running lower than the mask, and my forehead is clearly exposed without a visor (I never wear visors) |
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My final recommendation is why get this mask when you can get others for the same price? This mask fits horribly, I can see myself running and it sliding clear off my face. Also, its about a $99 at all stores, and $89 on the internet. And Most people are biased on this website, but in all honesty, I ended up buying the I3 Pro and its loads better.
Don't buy this mask unless you are planning to just look awesome.
Agg Factor = 10
Performance = 1 |
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Period of
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| 1 year | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
JT proflex |
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| Marker Setup: |
Phantom VSC 15 rd mag
clear parts
14 in barell |
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| Strengths: |
Small profile
Draws bounces
Looks great
Easy lens removal
Price
Light |
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Chin slightly exposed |
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this is the best mask i have ever used. although i have never used Events, i know plaenty of people that do, and all of them have problems with clear communication on the field and some even have fogging problems
pros:
flexible- being a pump player in speedball games makes me a prime target for egotistical guys with timmys. so i need a good flexible mask to protect me from a poor snap. this mask has never failed me, balls only break if you get hit in the lens. ive never had a problem with the mask flexing too much and hitting my face.
ventilation- there are no problems with fogging or communication with this mask. vforce created the optimal airflow within the mask to prevent fogging and optimize hearing and speaking
lenses- field of vision is perfect, you have the full range of vision that you would have not wearing a mask. the lenses are also extremely easy to remove and clean/change. this is important because it allows your lenses to last longer and you to see clearer after being gogged.
cons: sometimes i feel that my chin sticks out from the bottom of the mask. but if i look in the mirror, i dont actually see my chin, so i think that its an illusion because of the tight profile. |
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You should buy this mask, its the most effective goggle system out there, whether your a speed ball or woods ball player. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Vforce Profiler
Vforce Provantage |
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| Marker Setup: |
Red PMR
Proto one piece 14"
New Designz:
backcap
feedneck
asa
edge trigger
Halo B w/rip
Crossfire 68/4500 HP
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| Strengths: |
Low profile, light, easy to clean ,goggle bag, comfortable, no fog!! Lots of bounces!! |
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| Weaknesses: |
Price
Makes friends jeleaous |
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| Review: |
I got my grillz as a birthday present a few days ago. My dad was a little surprised by the price but whatever. So I decided to get these over the Events. No tinted lens. BUT, the grillz do come a goggle bag. So the first game I played in, it was at 9 a.m. And down here in Florida, its usually very moist and foggy. And to my surprise, NO FOG!!! BUT (theres the but again) I wear glasses. So they fogged up. Just sprayed some anti fog and that solved that problem. I realized i never took off my mask in the staging area. (not kidding) I went on the field and dropped my gun and covered my face and looked for my mask in the staging area when I realized I was wearing them. Im not used to that kind of comfort. The next game, I got shot on the rubber part of the mask, and what do you know, it bounced! Stayed in and we won the game. Now for the looks. These things look WAY better in person. I took it out of the box and they were just beautiful. The best way to describe it is an angry profiler.(youve probly heard that before) Now for disassembly. I can take the entire mask apart in 28 seconds flat. Me and my friend had a contest in the staging area cause we were bored. The changing foam comes in handy down here in Florida cause of course we sweat alot down here. But I think 21 bucks for foam is a little much. Vforce did a good job of labeling the parts on the mask left and right. It does matter what clips you put in on each side.
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I just picked up a silver mirror lens. I havnt gotten to use them yet cause there tinted and my team is in a six week 3-man championship that is played at 7 at night. The lens is awsome looking but they mirror is peeling off at the corners right out of the box. People have had this problem before. When I am able to use the lens ill put another review or something.
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The silver mirror lens worked perfectly. Didnt scratch up at all, the tint is perfect, and its looks great. Makes a huge difference on the mask. |
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If you have the money, get them. Its as simple as that. I give it a 9 becuase of the price. |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Saturday, March 15th, 2008 at 7:59 am PST |
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