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Number of Reviews: 4
Average Rating: 9.8 / 10
Manufacturer Website: Click here
Suggested Retail Price: $80

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The well-designed Armson Pro-Dot Max Duty is a great sight for paintballers, allowing two eye sighting for quicker target acquisition, no loss of peripheral vision, and unaffected depth perception.

The anodized aluminum body, high quality internal optics make this one of the toughest, most reliable paintball sights on the market. The Armson Pro-Dot Max Duty has a birdcage body military style design that makes it virtually indestructible. The sight also features simple adjustments for windage and elevation, and does not require batteries! (Even works with vertical feeds.)
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easix6 Friday, May 11th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
3 months5 of 6 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Brass Eagle Red Dot Sight, BSA Red Dot Sight, Various optical .22 rifle scopes.
Marker Setup: Black VSC Phantom with 14" barrel, extended custom pump handle, 9 oz "toolbox" (hollowed out 9oz tank that I store cleaning items in) tank and Armson Max Duty Sight.
Strengths: Does not require batteries to function. Very tough construction.
Weaknesses: You must shoot immediately, no "aiming" or hesitation. Target-dot on target-fire.
Review: The Armson Max Duty is the toughest sight in paintball - bar none. It is military grade stuff, very solid and tough. It is a OEG Sight - Occluded Eye Gun sight. That is, when you look through it - you can't see through it (it's occluded) you are required to keep both eyes open when firing a gun with the sight on it. You focus on the target down range with both eyes open and then you put the dot on target and pull the trigger as fast as you can. If you are looking to take time to aim before you fire - this is NOT the sight for you. This sight is designed for close quarters / snap shooting - and it excels at that. It is not for finite accuracy, or taking your time to aim and hit a target. It is See-Raise gun and impose dot on target-Fire...and do it as quick as you can.

I had some difficulty learning to use the Armson Max Duty as the use of it requires you to "unlearn" most everything anyone with shooting experience has learned over a life time. You do not "take aim" with this sight. You do not aim carefully with this sight. You DO look at your target down range with both eyes open, focus on it with both eyes open and then raise the sight into your field of vision and as soon as you see that red dot superimposed on the target - you IMMEDIETLY pull the trigger. You cannot hesitate with this sight, you can't take careful aim with it either as that will throw your shots off every time.

I initially sighted in at the 15 meter recommendation that the manufacturer suggests. I had a lot of difficulty learning to "let go" and shoot on impulse with the sight - I kept trying to "aim" with it as you would with an optical scope (just with both eyes open) and that just screwed me up. Eventually I got in the habit of See-Sight Dot-Fire Immediately and I started to actually hit what I was wanting to hit.

For me, the most effective range for this sight is about 20-25 meters. You can reasonable\y expect to hit a target the size of a coffee can reliably with the sight at that distance - which is more than adequate for paintball in my books. The sight is expensive, around $90.00 US but it is exceedingly well built and acceptably accurate if you use the sight as it is intended.
Conclusion: I was very frustrated with the Armson sight at first. It took a lot of getting used to in order to use it effectively - not because the sight is unusually complicated but because it is so simple to use that your old shooting habits can cause you some problems in trying to learn how to shoot the sight. It is NOT a scope, shoots nothing like an optical scope - it is the opposite actually. The object with this sight is to see the target with both eyes open, raise the gun, plant the red dot on the target and fire immediately as possible - you want to go faster - not take time to aim. If you hesitate, if you try to "aim" with the thing - you'll screw yourself up every time. Think point and shoot, think speed, and go with instinct to pull the trigger asap with this sight zeroed in and you should hit what you are wanting to in that 20-25 meter range.

It is a nice sight, very tough and well made. Furthermore simply because of the way you are FORCED to use this sight - it will improve your snap shooting ability and train your muscle memory for proper firing technique with whatever gun you mount it on. It can be a little frustrating to learn how to use it (for me it was) but the benefits outweigh the detriments it may have.

I gave this product a score of 10 predicated on the quality of construction, innate toughness of the product and the fact that the product delivers on what it is supposed to be and do. The only downside of this product aside from learning how to use it properly was that I did have to do some filing on the rail clamps - they were a little large for my 3/8" dovetail on my Phantom and it caused the sight to lean very slightly to the right - after the filing however the sight fits beautifully. I would recommend this sight to others, I would also in the same breath admonish them to be very patient with learning how to shoot it - and think faster not "take aim".
Rating:
10 out of 10
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Donster 125 Tuesday, January 30th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Basic Red-dot sight
Marker Setup: Tippmann A-5, SP 20" Tactical Barrel, Special Ops A5A2 Stock, Shorty Grip, Dagger Vest (Digicam), Marauder II Battle outfit (Digicam), Opsgear UMP gas-through mag, RIchochet R5 hopper, Lapco Offset sight rail, Armson Pro-Dot Max Duty Gunsight, Orange Howitzer Bolt, Vortex Mod,
Strengths: Ease of use
Construction
Size
Solar powered
Weaknesses: Solar-powered
Review: Well i got this sight for X-mas. However, i only got to test it out for a bit because up hear in canada, it gets too cold to play.

Construction:
The sight is very well made and put together. The casing is aluminum. The actual red dot effect is produced via an acrylic rod that is encased with what appears to be impact resistant plastic. The light enters the front and sides and lights up the rod giving the user an appearance of a red dot. Armson does make some sight with tritium i beleive. however, most contries (at least canada anyway) are not allowed to import it because it is midly radioactive (or something along those lines). Furthermore, i believe tritium is very expensive. Anyway, the reason why i bought this sight was so i can have that first shot accuracy and be able to take a paintball head on and not have it break. Special Ops paintball conducted a test and found this to be the most durable sight. after it takes a hit, simply wipe it off and its good to go! (i will update it once this actually happens to me)
+3/3

Size:
The total length of the sight is around 4" (i will give exact measurments when i update this review) and is made to fit to a 3/8" weaver rail via two attachment screws that tighten metal clamps. It is the same setup as the BT fixed sight rail system. This sight fits perfectly on the BT fixed sight rail as well as the 45* mount on the Lapco offset sight mount.
+3/3

Ease of Use:
While i have yet to zero it in. It is very easy to do. the tuning dials are locked in place with two set screws. simply looses these and dial in your sight. tighten the screw when you are done to prevent the dials from being accidentally adjusted. What makes this sight also very versatile is that is can be used with verticle feeds if needed be. TO actually use this sight 9it is similar to the Dye Izon this way), just bring your marker to bear, aquire the red dot, then look at your target. you should then see your target with a red dot on it and sometimes the outline of the sight depending on your depth perception (it is hard to explain, so im sorry).

EDIT (Sun. April 15, 2007):
I just got to play a game with my sight yesterday. I even zeroed it in. It was very easy to do as i expected. And once i did so, i had deadly accuracy. I think i still have to fine tune it a bit, but as of now, i can hit pretty much wherever you want me to, give or take a few inches. it is a great sight and i highly recommend it to anyone!
+2/2

Solar-Powered:
This is both a strength and a weakness. It is a strenth because the lack of betteries makes this a hassle free sight. however, dont go play any night or 24 hour games with this, because even though it can work in low light level environments, it cannot be used when there is no light present. In terms of low light levels, i have been able to aquire the dot inside my house during a winter overcast at around 5:00pm. so it is very good at what it does.
+1/2
Conclusion: A very good sight. i recommed it to anyone. I like to snipe, so this will give me the accuracy i need via the red dot, but its fast target aquisistion makes it perfect for medium engagements. rest assured, i will update this review once i get more play time with it.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Sunday, April 15th, 2007 at 7:26 am PST
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Xboxgamer09 Tuesday, April 24th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
1 year2 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
1 year
Similar
Products Used:
Swatforce Tactical (SUCKED), Random BSA and Daisy Reddots (Not as Good)
Marker Setup: - Marker-
Tippmann A-5A2, Hammerhead Battlestikxx 14" Barrel Kit, Special Ops A-5A2 Air Thru Stock Mod, Lapco Offset Rail, Pro team ASR-1 Raised Rail, Armson Pro Dot Max, Pro team Tac Caps (30rd and 50rd)
-Accessories-
32* Remote Line, Nitro Duck 68/4500 X-Treme Adjustable Tank, Special Ops Dagger Vest /w Integrated Sling System, Special Ops 140rd Pods
Strengths: -Solar Powered (No Batteries)
-Virtually Indestructable
-Easy to Sight In
-Super Easy to Clean
Weaknesses: -Cant find a rail to make it attach on a Weaver Rail
Review: I have used this sight for over a whole year now and I can say that it is absolutely the best sight I have ever used. I have taken numerous paintballs directly into the sight (I'm talking over 20) and it still works just like the day I bought it. I've dropped it, hit it against trees while running, you cannot hurt this thing. Just wipe the paint out of the spots where the sun comes in and it will work great.

Sighting this in took less than 20 minutes. One knob for Vertical Adjustment, one for Horizontal. You dont even need a screwdriver or any tools to adjust them, just a simple turn. Accuracy is dead on (but then again I guess it would also depend on the gun). I put the dot on my target and know he is going to the Dead Box lol And since you have to have both eyes open to use it, you still have your peripheral vision while shooting (No Tunnel Vision). This has saved my butt quite a few times.

THE GOOD:
-No battery changes ever again. No running out of batteries in the middle of a game.
-As stated, it cannot be harmed lol
-Very Very Small
-Super Easy to Sight In
-You still have your peripherial vision while using it

THE BAD:
-I have used it in a few games towards dusk, while the dots brightness does decrease, it has never gotten bad enough that I cannot use it, unless it is pitch black outside. (Heck if you wanted to, I rigged up a small LED light to a AAA battery and strapped it under my raised rail to power it during the Low Light/Night, works like a dream). Also I cannot find a rail attachment that allows for Dovetail to Weaver attachments so I could use it on a Weaver rail. But I am sure there is one out there. If someone knows of one, please inform me.
-Takes a little bit of getting used to shooting with both eyes open
Conclusion: Buy it. You will never use another sight again. Period. It owns all other sights.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Tuesday, April 24th, 2007 at 12:15 pm PST
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wolftune Tuesday, April 7th, 2009
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
1 year
Similar
Products Used:
32 Degrees Armson style red dot sight
Marker Setup: Palmers Pursuit Shop Cherry Pyre
Armson Max Duty sight
Lapco shoulder stock/drop forward
Strengths: Quick sighting
Crisp, clear dot
Works without batteries
Works in shade and sun
Weaknesses: Won't work in a few light conditions
Price (worth it in this case)
Review: As others have mentioned, this sight is a completely different style than most people are familiar with. Basically, you use the red dot from the scope in one eye and the "world" in the other eye. The red dot is superimposed on the "world" and the result is that you see a red dot on your target.

Some people could find this strange or hard to use, but so far everyone I've shown has really liked it. It just takes some practice.

Review:

Snap-shooting:
This is where this sight probably outperforms most others. Bring the marker up with both eyes open, quickly find the dot, and fire when you've lined it up with your target. Supposedly, this type of sight was used in military situations for this purpose. Since paintball games rarely allow you to take a lot of time sighting, this sight seems to fit the sport well.

Slow sighting:
Well, as I mentioned, to quickly acquire a target, this sight is great.
In theory, this sight is NOT the best for an ambush type situation (taking several seconds to sight on your target before firing while sitting in heavy cover). This is because the dot tends to move or float around, a product of the optical illusion and your brain. HOWEVER, I have found that this is not the case. At 60 feet, I can hit within 5 inches of a target 4 out of 5 times. This is not rapid firing but rather taking time to sight in each shot. So, at least for the inherently accurate paintball situations, this sight does everything you want it to do.

EDIT 4/27/09 After using this sight a few more times, I have to say that it is VERY accurate. Once you've got this thing dialed in, it does a really nice job. I was nailing people with 4 inches of mask sticking out from 60+ feet regularly with one or two shots. Excellent addition to an accurate marker.

EDIT 8/25/09 This sight has become second nature to me at this point. There's no "finding the dot" at all. It's just like sighting down the barrel but more accurate. It really works well and I'm very happy with my purchase. Highly recommended.

Light situations:
This sight will work in low light conditions. No problem whatsoever in the shade. However, since it uses light to work, it won't work in the dark (obviously). Also, it's tough to see the red dot in extreme contrasts. For example, if you're in a dark garage and sighting into a bright backyard, the dot is harder to track down. However, even in woodsball, this type of extreme contrast would be pretty rare.

Adjustment:
Fairly simple. Once sighted in, it doesn't seem to move. Just be sure to only slightly loosen the screws, turn the knobs, and then re-tighten.

Vertical Feed:
This is perhaps the best thing about this sight: you can use it directly behind vertical feeds without using adapters that increase your profile slightly and cost more money.

Durability/Quality:
It's clear when you hold this sight that it's well built. You would have to try pretty hard to physically damage this sight.

Customer Service:
My sight adjusters didn't work right. I e-mailed Armson and they replaced it. Even paid for my shipping so it cost absolutely nothing.

Price:
It's expensive (around $80 after shipping). Is it worth it? If you have an accurate marker and need a simple reference point, a ghost ring or scope ring could do the trick. However, this sight will give you that extra edge and accuracy.
Conclusion: If you're interested in this type of sight and want the best, this is it. It's durable, useful in most paintball situations, improves accuracy a lot, looks great, and has the added advantage that you can use it behind a vertical feed or other obstruction. I'm giving it a 10 based on quality and utility for this type of sight.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Wednesday, August 25th, 2010 at 4:22 pm PST
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