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Hard Corps Torque Loader Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
16 |
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Average Rating: |
8.2 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$100 |
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Hard Corps Torque Loader is the newest addition to the loader market for 2007. Made from quality ABS plastic it is both durable and light weight. At 1.01 lbs. out of the box, Torque is significantly lighter than it's competition. Also without the need for a battery door and it's screw-less design, Torque is incredibly easy to disassemble.
Now changing batteries and cleaning is your loader is made to be easy.
Internally, all of the gears are built into the motor assembly making the drive system unique as well and at over 30 BPS, Torque has no problems feeding quickly and efficiently. And, if a jam were to occur? The Torque has a reverse switch that allows fast, easy de-jamming.
With such highend features and the Torques 3D style and look this loader makes an excellent choice for anyone in the market for a new loader or looking to upgrade from a existing model.
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| The Hard Corps Torque Loader is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. Check out the Places to Buy links below for places to purchase it new. |
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Period of
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| Only tested | 16 of 19 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Empire Reloader B(2)
Halo (all of them)
Vlocity |
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| Marker Setup: |
Trilogy Competition <stock>
Black Magic <stock> |
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| Strengths: |
Uber fast
REALLY easy to take apart
Simple to understand
True force feed |
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| Weaknesses: |
Lack of screws (hopper might come apart) but they fixed it |
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| Review: |
Basically, This hopper was shown at our arena today. It was put on a DM8 and we were allowed to shoot as fast as we could. It was amazing.
The Hopper is very light, and comes in a few different colours (alien pattern, digi camo). A great thing about this hopper is there are no screws to take out before taking it apart. You just flip the lit and pull out on either side. There is no battery compartment because they fit under the drive assembly (the drive assembly just slides out too!) There is no rip drive, but there is a reverse button on the back to clear jams. Also it is a true force fed hopper because it keeps constant pressure on the balls. The battery life is good too, and estimated 6 cases on two 9v.
EDIT: Feb/08:
Well, A local team in my area, is sponsored by Hard Corps, so they all got the Hoppers (not free though). Anyway, so today I had a chance to really take a look at te Torque.
First off, It's very very quiet. A Vlocity is literally 3 times louder. A halo, about twice as loud.
The paddles are very strong and will not bend, and the reverse button does work.
The only thing I don't like is the Lid. Not that it's small, it's not that bad, but it has no spring...easy fix
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| Conclusion: |
I'm selling my Empire to get this. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Sunday, February 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 pm PST |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| 3 months | 12 of 30 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Halo
Empire Reloader
VLocity
Apache |
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| Marker Setup: |
Blk/Blu/Clr Fade 04 Streamline Excalibur
Clamping Feedneck
14" Ultralite Barrel and Freak Barrel Kit
68/4500 MacDev Conquest Tank |
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| Strengths: |
Light
Easy to take apart
Battery Options |
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| Weaknesses: |
Small Loader Opening
Jams
Weak Anti-Jam |
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| Review: |
I was very excited to be the first in my area to get one of these hoppers and put it to the test at a local scenario game. My initial findings and impressions were good.
It was asthetically pleasing to the eye, sits nice and low on the marker and is VERY quiet.
On the downside it came with no warranty card, or instructions. I have heard that they should though.
Anyway I'm going to sum up my experiance in as short, sweet, and precise as I can. I found when I took the loader out to the field that it would jam almost immediately. I tried the anti-jam button, but it seemed that the weight of the balls was too heavy to let the paddles swing in the reverse direction. I literally had to shake the loader like in the 80s to get the balls to feed. The balls would continually get jammed where the paddles and the balls meet to go into the feedneck. I tried sanding down the 'lip' where they seemed to be getting stuck, but to no avail. I tried emailing a gentleman on PBnation that apparently owns the company to get some advice or a fix for the problem, but have not heard a reply, after 2 weeks.
I also noticed that excess spillage while trying to fill this loader was high and if your hopper isn't completely empty, then you will have too many balls and they will end up on the ground.
Unfortunately, I am VERY disappointed in this loader as it seemed to have GREAT potential, and I understand that new things have their issues. However, with that being said, their customer service should be there to help solve any problems. At this point there has not been any.
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In conclusion, I have to say that I have heard a lot of people sing the praises of this loader, and I would like to think that I had the 'lemon' of the bunch, but the lack of communication and customer support means that this loader ( and the $100 I spent on it) will sit in the closet and never be used. |
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| Rating: |
| 3 out of 10 | Last edited on Sunday, December 23rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm PST |
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PeterZ |
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Monday, December 10th, 2007 |
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Period of
Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 11 of 13 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Halo B with Rip Drive
Viewloader VLocity (for a day)
Egg 3
Revvy
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| Marker Setup: |
2006 Macdev Cyborg
Automag ULE
Automag Warped
Sniper 2
CCM SS-25
CCM SS-25
Tippmann A5 |
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| Strengths: |
Light Small Fast Quiet Simple Easy to Clean Price Balance Screwless Strong Colors Tight Design |
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| Weaknesses: |
- Lid
- Capacity (160 rds) |
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| Review: |
I bought the Torque based on a suggestion from a teammate.
Initially, I was intimidated upon taking it apart, thinking I may break it. However, the plastic is very, very strong and has a bit of flex to it like the old Revvys do. Therefore, it is less likely to crack than a Halo or VLocity, imho. After taking it apart, the first thing I noticed was its utter simplicity. All of the parts come apart easily but are highly unlikely to come apart during a game unless stepped on or dropped from real height. I think any marker would fail under those conditions.
I loaded 2 9v batteries into the Torque even though my teammate suggest only one. The hopper is so light that I felt the extra 9v was not a problem. When putting the Torque back together, you must take care to allign the shells carefully as not to crimp any wires. That is pretty easy as well. After putting the Torque back together I proceeded to do a drop test with it and it literally blew me away. I loaded a Dye Lock Lid pod into it and it filled the hopper perfectly to capacity. The speed at which it loaded the pod back up stunned me. Had to be faster than any of my previous hoppers. I just have never seen anything that fast before. Also, it was dead quiet. Nothing like a noisy Halo.
I had it out on the field the following day in 40* temperatures with brittle paint. I am happy to report not a single break. Even if there was, it would be very easy to clean up. I had it loaded on my 06 Cyborg which is capable of shooting a true 34bps. Not once did this hopper skip a beat. Perfect force feeding all day. Now, I didnt shoot the marker at 34 bps but not once did the marker outshoot the hopper. The 9v's handled a case just fine even in the cold where they are likely to not perform as well. The same batteries are still in the hopper and it seems to be going well.
The only issues I had with the hopper were the lid and the capacity. The lid is possibly the smallest I have worked with... just about a 1/4" bigger than the Dye pod opening. Now that wasnt the biggest deal ever, but it took a second to get used to loading it in a firefight without spilling any precious paint. It literally took a second to aim the pod at the hoppers mouth and fit it right. Like I said not a big deal, but something they are sure to fix in version 2. Also, I had to make sure to shoot all the paint in my hopper before I reloaded. A Dye pod will fit the capacity of the hopper PERFECTLY. A ball more and you are risking a jam. Once again, not the biggest deal but something they may fix in version 2. Also, I dont think any speed loaders are available yet for any of you tourney ho's.
I have the cool camo colored shell, which is great for the woods where I play. There are a ton of other options for colors but you can even paint this hopper shell with ease if you choose to. The hopper is light, light, light with a great center of balance. the 2 9v configuration sits in the middle of the hopper. The design is sleek and tight as well. No screws means it is really user friendly in building and tearing it down which can take just a minute to do, even less. The buttons are nothing like cheap Halo buttons... no need to upgrade these at all. It is easy on paint yet feeds like a beast. And the batteries last pretty well. |
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All in all, I highly recommend this hopper. It really is everything a Halo ever wanted to be when it grew up! I can't give it a ten yet because the lid and capacity need SLIGHT improvements but I would certainly say that I can give it a 9 out of 10 and I can also say it is my new favorite hopper. Also, for 99.00 (I have even seen it at 89.00 on ebay) I think this is the hopper for the money... ANYONE WANT TO BUY 2 HALOS FOR 100 DOLLARS?! lol, I cant stand those Halos any more. Way to go Hard Corps! |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 8 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 months |
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Similar
Products Used: |
empire reloader b
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proto matrix rail drop forward back cap ultra light trigger
torque loader
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| Strengths: |
Speed style size simplicity silence |
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| Weaknesses: |
Scratches easily stiff when first opened |
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| Review: |
I bought the torque loader and was expectin either great things or something that would never be used again and i was pleasently suprised it help up well on the day all day on one full and dead battery. when i first opened it the box looked good and when i opened the box it looked brilliant with the loud mouth lid i was very happy. when i tryed to put the batteries in it too a good 20 minutes to open due to stiff parts and big hands. the simplicity was very suprising one button to work it and another to fix some problems it kept up with the pmr on millenium mode and fired well a few drop tests averaged it at 28bps on two average batteries. when i sat down at the end of the day i must say it is an amazing hopper not perfect but quite close |
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I would definately reccomend this hopper its overall performance and simplicity is second to none but the easily scratched and scuffed shell is annoying but solved by a sticker. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 5 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
pretty much all high end loaders (empires, halos, vlocities, pulse) |
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| Marker Setup: |
08 Ego
White CCU Kit
Dxs Pulse/VLocity
CP 68/45 tank
Dye UL Barrel |
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| Strengths: |
Tool less disassembly
Tough shell |
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| Weaknesses: |
Battery hog
Motor is always running
Not good product |
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| Review: |
Feed Rate 6/10:
Like other hoppers on the market this hopper has a great feed rate without having to get the version with the upgraded motor (440). Although it has the same feed rate as the stock VLocity, it runs down very quickly whereas my VLocity has had the same batteries since the PSP tournament in March and it still feeds 28 with me playing every game each weekend. So yes, it does have a good feed rate, for about 1 day of play
Shell 8/10:
The torque has a great shell. When i bought mine at the PSP tradeshow, George Spurlock, the guy that made this hopper, stood on it no problem; so 10/10 for strength. The 8/10 is because of the 6/10 i gave it for the poor design of the profile of the shell. Honestly its just preference but i play snake side so the less they can see of me the better.
Motor 4/10:
Ok, so low rating for the motor i know but i can back it up. I will admit it is very gentle to brittle paint and with the upgraded 440 motor you do get a good motor on fresh batteries, but like i said its a battery hog. Also, the motor does not have any type of ball detection system. all it does it when there is tension on the drive cone the magnectic clutch systems disconnects from the drive cone. the minus of this is that the clutch system continues to spin and it is quite loud. The real down side of how loud the drive system is is that i actually couldnt hear my teammates well at all; this was never an issue with other moppers. |
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its an ok hopper but for a good product you have to spend $100 just to get the normal motor with a bigger mouth, otherwise the mouth is smaller than a pod :(. But if you want to get the better motor that'll cost $120. in my opinion DO NOT BUT THIS HOPPER; SPEND YOUR MONEY BETTER AND GET A VLOCITY, HALO, OR A PULSE!!! |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 5 of 23 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Halo B
vLocity
Evolution2&3 |
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| Marker Setup: |
'07 Etek Ego
Halo B
45/45 |
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| Strengths: |
None! |
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| Weaknesses: |
Does nothing but jam!!!!
Holds one pod max.
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I got this hopper by mistake it was supposed to be a Halo B. I was like well what the heck ill try i out. first game of the day it jammed, couldnt get the reverse button to clear the jam. next gae i cleared it up and same thing happened. Pretty much i think the paintballs weigh to much for the torque to reverse them, but i really dont know why but the jams you have to fix by sticking your hand down in the hopper and forcing it backwerds. |
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I do not recomend this thing. I am hoping that i got a bad one out of the bunch but from my experiance i wouldnt even put another hopper that says torque on it on my gun. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Viewloader Revolution
Viewloader Evolution 2
Halo B v35 with Rip Drive |
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Proto Matrix Rail LE, Smart Parts Max-Flo Micro, Freak kit
EBlade1 Autococker, Macdev Conquest, Freak kit |
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| Strengths: |
Tool free design
Small profile |
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| Weaknesses: |
Small capacity,
Motor is always running |
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I purchased a Torque as an upgrade to my old Egg2. I wanted something with a smaller profile, higher feed rate and the tool free design really appealed to me.
Strengths:
The Torque is very easy to take apart, put your hand inside, press the pins down then lever the sides off. It can be done in as little as 30 seconds if you know what you are doing.
The Torque sits very low on the marker which means less of a target to get shot! It seems very well constructed and the internal battery housing is a really neat.
Weaknesses:
The capacity of this hopper is tiny, having a smaller profile sacrifices the amount of balls you can get inside, a 140 pot seems to fill it up and it means that you really have to know your paint level before you reload.
The motor runs constantly, i was unaware of this when I bought the Torque, IMO it is a weakness. I'm sure on Sup Air fields it isnt a problem but for recball it can get kind of annoying, it may be reasonably quiet but the constant motor sound is a bit pants. |
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Overall not a bad hopper for the money but in some ways I wish i had just gone for a Halo. I would hope in the future an updated board will come out which includes a sensor as well as the slip drive system. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Vlocity - Feeds slower and has a bigger profile
Halo B - Heavier
Pulse - heavier has bigger profile |
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Superman Invert Mini
NDZ v2 Bolt, Spring Kit
NDZ Feedneck
NDZ Back Cap
NDZ Detents
Torque Loader
68/45 PE Tank |
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| Strengths: |
Check review |
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| Weaknesses: |
Check review |
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The Torque made by HardCorps. is a very good loader. It is very durable, easy to clean, has a low profile, screw-less, light and very fast.
There are two types of Torque loaders. The standard 150motor Torque with the standard shells, and the 440motor Torque with the Loudmouth shells. The difference between these two types is that the 440 can hold 180 balls and has a wider mouth, the standard can hold 160 and has a smaller mouth. The 440motor loads slightly faster than the 150motor but not by a lot. 440motor Torque is $109USD, $125CAD. 150motor Torque is $65USD, $74CAD
What I mean by "screw-less" is that there are no screws at all on the loader. To take it apart, just simply push in 2 tabs inside the loader and pull the shells apart. The first couple times will be tough due to the tabs being firm.
The Torque's weaknesses are basically only on the standard 150motor Torque. Such as, small mouth and can't hold a lot of balls. This weakness can be removed by upgrading to a 440motor Torque.
The Torque loader is good for any player no matter how experienced you are. I recommend this loader to every speedball player. People who play Woodsball probably wont need a loader like this but there is nothing wrong with having one if you want one.
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GET THIS LOADER!! It will never let you down! |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Monday, April 28th, 2008 at 1:07 am PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 2 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Products Used: |
Vlocity (In the same range)
Halo (See my halo review)
Empires |
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Hater Cheater DM5
Ton Ton shocker
06 infamous timmy
Any gun i am needed to shoot |
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| Strengths: |
LIGHT!!!!
Battery Life is amazing
Small
Anti Jam
Simple
Easy to take apart |
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Mouth is a bit small
Lid needs breaking in |
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Well i went in three ways with some teamates to buy torques, we got them all BNIB from a guy for 74 bucks a piece so we couldn't resist.
I got the torque expecting great things and i wasn't disappointed. I popped 2 old 9 volts in and the thing ran! I did a few drop tests with reballs. Now here is a little back story. My vlocity fammed to hell with reballs and the so called "Anti-Jam" on the vlocity wasn't exactly very good. Instead on the torque i was able to hold the button down and the cone FULLY reversed, clearing any and all jams. When you turn the hopper on, like i did with 2 brand new batterys you will ask yourself WTF? because the thing doesn't make much noise so you dont think it is spinning that fast, in truth it rips. Here i will drop test right now i pulled it out of my gearbag after a case + wear has been put on it. 140 (premium) 4 seconds. NO pop corning at all. Thats 35 BPS. The loader holds 160 and fits a pod in. The mouth how ever is a little smaller than a pod but i still lose the same amount of paint while reloading. Another thing i loved about this loader is how low it sits stock in the feedneck, no sanding needed. All you have to do to dis assemble is push a PIN on the inside down and pull the halves apart. No screws no trouble.. This loader has no eyes to break, it has a simple board, actual battery harnesses.
The push buttons are wonderful and easy to use, the light stays on unlike a halo. No lid spring to lose. |
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Light
Fast
Easy to take apart
Anti jam
Small |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of
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| 3 months | 2 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Reloader B
Vlocity |
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| Marker Setup: |
2006 Infamous Intimidator
Torque Loader
Crossfire 68/3000 Tank
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| Strengths: |
Speed
Size
Easy Breakdown
Simplicity
Quiet
No Battery Door
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| Weaknesses: |
Small Size
Small Mouth
Always Spinning |
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The Torque is by far the best loader that I have ever used. The loader sits so low on the marker without any modifications needed i.e. cut feedneck. The first time I took it apart, I underestimated the strength of the shell, I gently pulled it apart but its strong enough to take a beating. The two buttons on the back are as simple as possible, an on/off button and a reverse button. The loader is so quiet when it is on, but it doesn't stop spinning, but it's almost inaudible when playing. The lack of battery door and screws just amaze me, its so nice to take apart, unlike a Halo or Vlocity. The only thing that bothers me is the smal size ~150rds and the small mouth on the shell, which have both been fixed by Hard Corps with the new loudmouth shells. |
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I love this loader, other than the minor setback (which are now fixed with the Loudmouth Shells) this loader is perfect. |
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