Pump: CCM Series 6
Mechanical: WGP VF Tactical
Electronic: 06' Karnivor E2, 06' Maniac Ego, 08' WGP Jeff Orr, WGP Tactical Trilogy, Smarts Parts Epiphany, 06' Proto PMR SE
Jeff Orr Limited Edition Karnivor Pump Body (Short Body)
CCM Pump Internals and Externals w/ LA Hitman Mod, CCM Feedneck, CCM 86 Deg Frame w/ Autotrigger, CCM Series 6 Regulator, in pump handle return spring, magnetic ball detent, mini hopper, 45/4500 CP Nitro w/ SP Maxflow Reg, two piece SP All American barrel .689 back with 14 in front.
COLOR: All parts Gloss Black except trigger frame which is Matte Black and CCM brushed aluminum parts. Etched "One Shot, One Kill" on side near barrel inlet.
Eye hole cover & screw (eye holes are drilled in factory)....Must modify cover to be reasonable length (about half stock), All other recommended upgrades are listed above in marker set-up. The CCM 45 Deg frame has more grip options. 86 Deg frame only has stock style grip readily available.
Impossible to find factory Karni Pump
Pin Lost Easily
The Jeff Orr Limited Edition Karnivor Pump body is awesome. It is a Karnivor that has been nearly turtled with the bolt pin going to the top. No beaver tail and clapping back block is nice. The velocity adjust is very accessible, the bad news it is accessible to dirt. The major problem is that the body has eye holes drilled, which one makes no sense and two implies that the bodies were not strictly honed for the pump.
Stock the Jeff Orr Limited Edition Karnivor Pump was sold for about $400, however they were a very limited run and as of late 08' have been nearly impossible to find. Rumors abound that WGP may make another run, but it would more likely happen on the Limited Edition Jeff Orr E2 Cocker bodies (Not Karnivor bodies at all)(This is complete speculation with a hint of rumor).
The stock marker would rate a 7/10 overall. The WGP pump mechanics were not CCM quality. The pump pull was not near as smooth. The mechanics also felt cheaper in overall build. Additionally, there was no autotrigger setup with the WGP mechanics. And no Hitman Mode (that can be either good or bad, i say bad). The pump return on the WGP mechanics needed some work. The Trigger frame was adequate, but again no Autotrigger.
WGP needs to rethink their feedneck, the screw tight neck is a pain. And it is too tight for many hoppers.
The ASA was alright, a bit clunky in looks; functional but ugly.
The WGP regs are mediocre at best; CP, CCM, DYE, EGO regs seem to be a better bet. (I did not have trouble with the reg on this gun, but the same reg on my E2 Karni is not all that good.)
The stock marker did shoot exceptional without the upgrades. The stock Kaner barrel provided decent accuracy. Air consumption was par for pumps.
Stock the Jeff Orr Limited Edition Karnivor Pump is a very strong marker for the price.
With the appropriate upgrades the marker is simply the best shooting marker I have ever touched (well it ties the CCM Series 6, which shoots as near perfect as any marker ever made) and is by far the best looking pump, PERIOD, EVER!!!
Note: Be very conscious about the paint size that you shoot. paint near .691 and definitely paint above .691 will give you problems as the barrel inlet is rather tight. Not really sure if this is an across the board issue or if it an isolated problem.
If you can find one, buy it. If you can find two buy both. This gun is such a rare gun that finding one may be literally impossible in the years to come.
If you are into Autocockers and into pumps it is a must find item. But take some time and take some money and build it right.
It looks Amazing....
Stock it is a 7/10
With upgrades it is an 11/10
The average is 9/10 - The CCM Series 6 will cost less and shoot almost identical, but will likely cost less than the stock WGP with all the upgrades....
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, March 16th, 2009 at 1:25 am PST
One Peice feed from White Wolf
UC kit from Wevo
Deadly Wind Barrel
CCM 86 or 45 AT Frame
CCM Deluxe Pump Kit
Maybe New internals
Same as Electric E-Bladed Version minus pnuems and E-Blade
Same as Above
When I do get my karni and get it setup the way I want it I will definatly update my review. The Upgrades I mentioned are the ones I would get but as far as internals go I have heard the karni lowers are probably the best thing for it, so maybe some lighter springs for those who wanna run a Hitman Mod.
When I do get it I will update my review.
I for one am extremely excited that WGP decided to make a pump verison of a truly awesome cocker. I would have gotten one earlier had they not have been so expensive and didn't have all the extra electic semi crap on it. If your a Sniper fan I would definalty give it a try before you buy. 10 for just being a really sexy cocker