Spyder Leap circuit board designed by Tadao with rear facing CAMD (color access mode display)
25% lighter and 15% shorter than most spyders
Synergy Engineering low pressure dual air source system - 300psi operating system
Operates on standard 9V battery - includes charging system for 9.6V rechargeable battery (battery and charger not included)
3 modes of operation: semi auto, ramping PSP, and Ramping Millennium
Recessed dual texture grip panels
Operates on CO2 (anti-siphon) or HPA / N2 - includes fast charge in-line regulator and vented pressure relief CA adapter
Anti chop break beam eye system
3 way adjustable magnetic saber trigger
Shoots up to 25 balls per second
Delrin quick release bolt
Standard CA threads on foregrip / expansion chamber and vertical adapter
The Kingman Electra 08 is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used.
The 08 Electra is easily the nicest Spyder I've ever owned. It comes with everything that you could ever need stock.
Barrel - very quiet and accurate. All of my previous Spyder stock barrels have been garbage, but I'm using the stock over any aftermarket that I have now. That's saying something.
Trigger - Magnetic, 3 point adjustable. Need I say more?
Board - Designed by Tadao, of course It'll be good. It has semi, PSP 3 shot (yes, 3 shot) and millennium ramping. Its not adjustable beyond that, but you don't really need anything else.
Regulator - I use a CP, but thats just because I already had one. I plan on trying out the stock one when I have access to a chrono, but that'll be a couple weeks.
Feedneck - I've never been a fan of twist-clamp feednecks, but it's better than the plastic garbage. It works, no real need to upgrade unless you're as picky as I am.
On/off - Wow. Works great, even tells you which way is "on" and "off." It bleeds out remaining air which is amazing. A great on/off to be stock on a Spyder.
Size - Very small compared to older spyders. Its about the same length as my friends PM7, just a little taller.
Like someone else said, you need to fool around with the wiring in the grip frame to get the battery in properly. Not a huge deal, but whatever.
You know the "high end" gun feel? You pick up the gun and it just feels different. The kind of feel you get when you shoot an Ion one game and a Marq6 another. To me, thats the kind of feel I got when I picked it up. Really solid buy. For 200 dollars you get everything that you might need and no need to upgrade from stock. I've shot most guns around this price range save the SLG, and the Electra trumps them all.
This is just -MY- experience with the gun. Do your own homework and make your own decision, because when the time comes you need to buy what you want, not what some stranger on the internet tells you to buy.
Ramping modes make it wicked fast,
stock barrel is suprisingly accurate,
battery & charger Not included
seems to be rough on paint in the cold weather
(Update 26 Dec 2008):
My Electra stopped firing a few weeks ago so I sent it back to Kingman. The tech called me the other day and said that the problem was I had replaced the main spring with an after-market 32degree spring kit (which I did because I couldn't get the velocity over 230 fps no matter what I did). Anyhow, they replaced the spring and claim that it is working fine, they also said that to get the velocity up around 280 fps that you need to adjust the inline regulator as well as the velocity adjustment screw.
So the moral of the story is: don't replace the spring with an after-market spring kit.
(Update 17 Aug 2008):
OK. here is an update.. I came into some money recently so I splurged and spent $1250 on a brand new 08 Ego, truly the best of the best, no doubt. But to be honest, the 08 Electra is in the same class as the 08 Ego, it just happens to cost $1000 less than the Ego. What I have observed: the 08 Ego is far more consistant (it truly does shoot ropes), which means when you are on target you get 4-5 hits per kill versus the 08 Electra which has a wider shot grouping, which one might argue gives you a statistical advantage of getting paint on target than a tighter shot grouping. Also, I typically play walk-on paintball at the local fields and I find it easier to get into games when I am playing with the electra than the Ego. The 08 Ego is far more intimidating than the Electra(sorry, but it's true). So, if money is a factor, then the 08 Electra is by far the best dollar-for-dollar marker I have used. The other difference is that the 08 Ego operates at a lower operating pressure so it is easier on the O-Rings. I have blown through several O-Rings on the Electra and it is a bit of a pain to constantly troubleshoot air leaks every time you play...
Look & Feel:
It's a sexy marker, no doubt about it. It's light weight and well balanced with a 68/4500 tank and Halo hopper. It actually feels more like a high-end marker than any other low-end gun I've ever used. The trigger is sturdy and easy to adjust to any taste.
(Update 26 Dec 2008):
Originally I had posted that the stock barrel was more accurate than my J&J ceramic, which I still believe to be true. However, I have since purchased a 2-piece 14" All American Barrel and that seems to be the best barrel I have found. I haven't done an exhaustive barrel to paint test, but I typically try each barrel at the chrono everytime I play so that I get the best paint-to-barrel match. So far the 14" All American barrel seems to be the most accurate.
(Update 26 Dec 2008):
Originally I posted that I had gone through 5-6 cases of paint with no breaks. I have now gone through probably 9-10 cases and I have only had problems with barrel breaks when the temperature was below freezing. I have found that the Electra has far more barrel breaks than my A5 or my Ego.
It's nice that it works with regular 9volts, but to be honest I was pretty disappointed that it didn't come with a battery & charger. Even my VS1 came with a rechargeable 9.6v battery and charger. Personally I would recommend getting the 9.6v rechargeable Spyder battery & charger, the battery is a snug fit in the grip and you really don't want to be cracking open the grip every time you play to replace batteries.
6 Aug 2008 (update)
After a few long days of play I have found that the Electra 08 seems to drain the battery faster than my Spyder VS1. Twice now, towards the end of the day the marker stopped working due to low battery.
Rate of Fire:
It has both PSP & Millennium Ramping modes so it is insanely fast.
(Update 26 Dec 2008):
Originally I didn't care for the twisting-style feedneck of the Electra, so I think I was unfairly harsh on it in my review. The more I have used it the more I am starting to like it.
The CAM is great, easy to use and very easy to understand. On a personal note, I prefer the VS1 pistol grip over the Electra's. I think I like the VS1 grip better because it's more of a true 45 pistol grip, and the rubber membrane on the VS1 feels more comfortable to me.
Here is why I love Spyder markers, they are a breeze to clean. Slide the bolt out the back, run a squeegee through it, and you're done.
The Electra 08 far out performs it's price tag. Add on a decent hopper, battery & charger, and possibly a new feedneck and you have a marker that will run with just about anything out there, at any price range.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, December 26th, 2008 at 9:18 am PST
Autococker Trilogy Tactical SF Camo
Shocktech lever clamping feedneck
Shocktech bolt pin
Alamo City PB Delrin bolt
VL Eye Force loader
Spyder Fenix ACS
T-Board Version C
Stock clamping feedneck
VLocity JR loader
J&J Edge barrel kit
Bandit Bolts high flow valve
Alamo City Paintball Supply delrin valve cup seal
SPPS Snapdragon Magno-trigger
SPPS 50 g micro switch (splice type)
HPA and CO2
32 degrees spring kit
J & J Edge barrel kit
Zap / Archon Hopper gravity fed
32 Degrees spring kit
Evil Delrin Bolt / Stock bolt with venturi removed
Bandit high flow valve
Autococker Trilogy Pro SF (sold it)
ACI Griffin (sold it)
Syndicate Paradox ELE (sold it)
Feedneck (see review)
Price (see review)
Barrel (mixed feelings, see review)
Okay, first of all, I will try to keep my review objective to the stock marker and within the perspective that this category is LOW END electronic markers.
I got my new bundle of joy and eagerly unwrapped. Visually, the marker looks no better or worse than the online photos. So use your own sense of beauty or ugly to judge it. I think it looks better than the VS series but still a little "awkward". I don't care for the looks of the trigger and you could nearly wear boxing gloves inside the trigger guard.
In trying to install a battery, I found that a standard 9V fits inside the frame nicely. BUT- I had to take off both grip covers and carefully re-route all the wiring, as there was no apparent fore thought of battery installation at the factory. No big deal though. A word of advice - get a rechargeable 9.6V battery as soon as you can. Regular (Energizer) 9V quickly ran down to the point where it wouldn't reliably trip the sear.
The grip covers are not standard 45's but they are pretty nice. They are dual durometer and the trigger frame has grooves that the grips fit nice and tight into. I think they'll end up sealing out paint pretty good.
The manual was kind of sparse.
The two piece barrel that comes with the marker was pretty nice but noticibly louder than my J&J. About a 20 fps gain with my new Palmer's brass barrel. The stock barrel did seem pretty accurate, but I did not shoot enough rounds to measure shot groupings before I moved on to the dead-on-accurate PPS barrel. One nice thing about the stock barrel is that the back portion is "squared off" to make gripping it for unscrewing really easy. Great engineering thought there, props to Kingman.
The shooting modes are easy to access through the membrane pad and the display is foolproof. Though the modes may seem limited, semi is the only mode allowed where I play. No, I don't play tournaments.
Although I think the trigger is unattractive, I was able to modify my walking technique and get a very steady stream of paint. No ROF numbers yet. The magnetic trigger feels great. Way better than any stock Kingman trigger I've shot. Similar in feel to the Snapdragon magnetic trigger I put on my Fenix, but not the scythe shape that I Iove. The trigger is adjustable for tension, front slack, and rear slack, so anybody should be able to set it to their liking. The micro switch feels pretty heavy and seems to have a fairly long travel.
There is no blow-by up the feed neck.
The feedneck, though clamping, leave something to be desired. As soon as I figure out what threading it is (impulse?) I'll be looking for a lever-cam locking type. I just couldn't get it adjusted right for my Eye Force without over tightening the base or not getting the loader in tight enough.
How did it shoot? Here's the part where I want to remind the reader that I am striving to be objective, Okay? It felt a lot like shooting an Ion. About the same feel and recoil. I think that's actually pretty good for a STBB factory set at 350 psi. The internals are "old school" Spyder, not even fancy balance valve and all of that. The recoil was very nominal and didn't affect aim much at rapid fire. The marker is comfy to hold too. Just the right length with bottle for me (medium to tall build). It was definitely louder than a VS2 and seemed to have a bit more recoil, but the recoil was very smooth as previously mentioned and did not affect shooting perceptibly. I am a real Autococker nut and am very particular about recoil and smoothness of operation, I did not find it unsatisfactory.
The on/off is pretty unsophisticated but was easy to use. It did a quiet job of releasing pressure when removing a bottle. Just remember that air will be held between the reg and the valve. One shot should discharge the remaining pressure.
Weight and dimensions? So much lighter than my Fenix or my Autococker. And compared to the Fenix, which I would call a "standard" Spyder body, the feedneck is about 1.5 inches further back and the VA is also about 1.5 inches further back, making for a much more compact marker. In the spirit of the VS series, no drop forward is included (I have come to prefer no drop).
All the tools and replacement o-rings that you will need for regular maintenance are included; allen wrenches, open-ended hex wrench, cup seal, o-rings, etc... and a barrel sock too.
Buy it if your $199 and allegance are sworn to Kingman. I believe that it may be their best STBB marker yet, or at lease close to the RSX. This price range is a little crowded, so do your homework.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, July 20th, 2008 at 8:34 pm PST
Spyder victor, tippmann a5/98c, pmr only shot a couple of times.
Spyder electra 08
Spyder fasta loader 18 volts
2 peice aero twist rifled barrel
Pmi pure energy 72/3000 psi tank
barrell if you want it is a pretty good barrell
Magnetic trigger adjustable
On off asa
None comes to mind
Man, you really get your moneys worth if you get this marker. I bought it cause I was ready to upgrade from my old victor. I studied and decied to take a swing at this marker. Im not sorry one bit! This gun preforms flawlessley. I have only had a barrell break in this marker. I took it to a scenario game and I was ripping with this gun, I did really good at this game and I think some of it was the gun. Trust me just buy this gun, it can rip just as fast as any gun out there, even the thousand dollar guns. And this gun is really light. GO AND BUY THIS GUN!!!
Spyder Electra 08 with Empire Areo Twisted Barrel, PMI 49/3000 tank, and Empire Reloader B
I just bought this marker today and it came in the classic Spyder cardbord box with foam on the inside. It comes with The gun, barrel, barrel sleeve, multipul acceries (like small wrench, allen keys, screws, and o-rings),and the Manual. With this marker i was a little disapointed when there was no Spyder re-chargeable battery so you might have to "splerge" a little on 9v batteries.(but if your playing paintball you should have alot of money anyways)
First thing i did was try and fit in the battery which was a challange to most marker setups. When you look inside the spot that hold the battery is covered by wires. It took me a good 10 min. just to install the battery by taking out the wires and carefully putting them back in.(but that just might be me... im kinda slow). When you put the cover back on the seel in nice and i didn't see any gaps for paint to get in.
It turned on with no prob and the modes work fine. PSP ramping i love so to finally have it on a cheap low end marker like Spyder was very nice. Of course with any magnetic trigger you will have a good response time. I like the way this one can be ajusted three different ways. Tension, front slack, and back slack. It is a great stock trigger and with a little practice i got very comfortible with it.
The On/Off valve is very basic but easy to use. I didn't expect much from this and you get what you pay for but i still like the setup.
This marker it very quiet for a spyder (exception is the VS2) but not nearly as quiet as Dye markers. The blowback is very slight and if you have a stedy hand then you will manage. When firing constantly you barely notice the blowback and your aim gets a little easier.
The barrel looks very nice and pretty good accuracy. Not as good as any store bought barrles but farely good for stock. With the many ported holes it is "quiet" (but with a couple rounds shot off most of the other team will know where you are), but i still recommend getting a new barrel.
It is a very compact and light gun. It feels very comfortable in hand and will have very little trouble with balance. The trigger frame is massive but if you have crazy fingers it's the right gun for you.
For $199.99 i think it is a very good deal. For a Low-End Electronic Marker it has performed very well and for beginner players this is a great gun to by. All in all i think this is the best gun spyder has ever made and i cant wait to use it for tournaments.
spyder pilot acs
smart parts ion xe
tippmann 98 (rental)
black stock electra 08
68/3000 pure energy
9.6v rechargable battery (coming soon)
none, the feedneck would work better if you put tape on your hopper's feedneck so it fits tighter
At first i was going to buy the proto slg before i saw this gun but it didn't look good. I bought this gun off ebay and went to use it a week later, man when i tested it was like a $2000 gun or something, people say that spyders are not good, but this changes everything. This gun needs no upgrades, unless you have money. I recommend using hpa than co2 because there are no velocity spikes and its accurate all the time. I also recommend getting a fast hopper like a eggy 3 or halo b.
Overall this is a really good gun for the price, if your thinking of buying this just go ahead and buy it! you will be so happy!!!!
Tippman '98 (rental)
Tippman '98 Platinum/Pro
Smart parts Epiphany
Smart Parts Eon
Spyder Electra '08 w/eye
Halo B hooper w/Rip and V35 board
3000psi 20oz CO2 tank
Coiled remote to a 6+1 harness
Fully stock other than that
To unlock it's true potential I recommend a Halo B
Feedneck, the stock one didn't fit well
Barrel if you want to
Great as stock
Well, I'm a advance noob to this sport... Been playing for about 2 years, but that was with rentals and my friends markers cause I was too cheap to actually go out and get one. I finally decided to get my own gun after I realized I'm wasting money by having to rent about 12 times a year. I also Like my friends Tippman. I got the Electra off ebay for $280...came with a bunch of stuff. I knew it was awsome right out of the box... I held it for a couple of seconds just looking at it, inspecting it. The board was more than I expected... Very detailed to what mode your on. The ASA was specific telling you what was on and what was off (just for you people in the south who cant read)... I hooked it all together and noticed my first problem... my Halo would fit, so i had to use the awsome power of duck tape to fix it. It held untill i got a new clamping feedneck. Second problem was the fact it didn't come with a battery, just a charger... Odd? I think so too... The barrel was great, but of couse it was stock so it did throw some shots off. No breaks as far as I knew... how wouldn't I know? Performed great. A++++++++>>> I would reccomend this to whoever is looking to upgrade because it has all the internal upgrades that you want included in the price.
What more is there to say. It's a great product and I would give it a 9-10 because of the stock barrle and feedneck. Also didn't come with a battery. But had a charger???? Is that a way the people at Kingman Laugh at us??? It's great anyway. Would recomend to anyone whos looking to upgrade.
halo b rip drive and v35
pure energy 72 3000 psi
nothin just a quality loader and a good airtank, but if u r gonna keep this gun for a long time i would get some upgrades like virture if u want it, a new barrel, asa and nothing else
Kinda of a good trigger
It is a good gun for a new player but for like 50 bucks more u could get a better gun like A slg, ion maybe
Its accurate, its consistint, its fast, good air flow, easy cleaning
The stuff i dont like it eats batteries, leaky asa, twist lock clamping feedneck
all in all i would recomment this gun only for the new player with a tight budget!!!
ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's pretty good right out of the box.
You could buy it and go play the next day.
But if you really want to upgrade it, you might want to get a new regulator and a better board. (Even though the LEAP Tado is amazing)
Pretty fast (25 BPS)
3-Point adjustable trigger
None that I have encountered.
Ok, so I bought this marker after coming back from not playing for a while. I wanted a gun that would keep up with some of the newer released guns. And let me tell you, I am not disappointed in the least. From the moment I took it out of the box I was happy. And when I took this bad boy out for the first time, I went from happy to amazed. It definitely out-shot my previously owned Ion XE, and for the price of it, it isn't far behind a Dangerous Power G3 (or some other mid-grade marker). In the right hands, this gun can lay down paint like a mo-fo.
Anyone who wants an amazing gun and does not want to spend a whole lot of money on a marker, I highly recommend this. Great buy for recreational players.
It is fast, light,accurate, and sexy.
You won't be disappointed.
Unless, however, you manage to find some way to break it. Even then, Kingmans tech group is pretty efficient.