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Azodin Kaos Pump (KP) Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
9 |
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Average Rating: |
9.1 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$150 |
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KAOS PUMP (KP) brings all the innovations you come to expect from the AZODIN team to the pump market. Built on the KAOS chassis, the KP provides closed-bolt performance in an entry-level package.
The optimized valve and main springs of the KP give you the efficiency you need when you are out at the field. The pump action is smooth out of the box so you do not have to worry about breaking in the pump action. The KP features the innovative TRIAD Ball Retention System that prevents roll-out even when you are using the smallest of paintball.
With Cocker-threaded barrel, Ion-threaded feedneck and bottomline mounting for both straight screws and Dovetail you can customize your KP to your own specifications.
NEW SCHOOL FEATURES for OLD SCHOOL GAME
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| Product Availability | |
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| The Azodin Kaos Pump (KP) is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. Check out the Places to Buy links below for places to purchase it new. |
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Period of
Product Use: |
| Only tested | 6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Misc. Phantoms and snipers |
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| Marker Setup: |
CCI Micro VSC Phantom |
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| Strengths: |
Light
Small
Smooth Stroke
Bolt
It's a Pump! |
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| Weaknesses: |
Stock Barrel
Trigger Pull
Feedneck
Occasional Rollout |
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| Review: |
So I finally got to test the Azodin Kaos Pump. And after hearing all this hype I was eager to see what all the fuss was about.
For one I can tell you that a lot of the hype isn't. Let me explain...
First Impressions:
First thing that came to mind was "great, another spyder clone". However i think that even though some of the aesthetics are similar, Azodin has come up with something pretty new and original. The look is pretty nifty but you know what they say, looks aren't everything. I noticed right off that the pump stoke itself is amazingly smooth for such an inexpensive marker. When threading the barrel back on to the marker I didn’t like how I could feel the metal rubbing against itself.
Accuracy:
When I began shooting the marker it was fairly accurate, I can’t be quite sure on how accurate it really is only because the paint bore was really small compared to the barrel (paint: .687-6.89, Bore=: .691-6.93). Regardless, this frickin thing chucked ‘em out there. And even if you don’t like the barrel, its cocker threaded.
Consistency:
Although the stock barrel isn’t the most desirable, the chrono showed a steady 270 with a variation of +/- 5-15fps. So as consistent as a spyder clone can be, it’s more consistent than many other similarly priced markers.
After Thoughts:
If I had the money for another marker I would buy one just to beat on because they are pretty well built and a decent marker for their price. The downsides to the marker itself are the extremely long trigger pull and the iffy feedneck design. Also, you cant hold the pump andle when shooting. I found this to be akward. But it shoots beter when the pump handle is "free flaoting" for some reason. All that aside, I think Azodin will become a well known name for beginners out there and I’m excited to try the other versions (the Kaos mech, the Blitz electro, and Zenith electro) of the Azodin family.
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| Conclusion: |
All in all i think Azodin has a pretty solid marker out there. I think this is a great alternative for new pump players or any of the azodin markers for newer players in general. |
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| Rating: |
| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm PST |
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Period of
Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
WGP Outkast
WGP Trilly |
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| Marker Setup: |
Azodin KP
48/3000 Nina Tank (output 650)
14" J&J barrel
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| Strengths: |
Accurate
Pump is secure (not loose)
All around good |
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| Weaknesses: |
Feedneck cannot get 100% tight
Spring bounce-back (see review)
Break-in |
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| Review: |
This pump, for $150, is very, very good.
~Good~
This marker, once broken in, can shoot darts. I was able to nail a 5'10" man when he was uphill, behind brush, and running (~70 feet away).
The pump is sturdy. It does not wobble around like some other pumps.
This pump is fairly lightweight. My air tank (48/3000) is the heavier than my marker plus my 14" barrel plus a 200 round (full) hopper.
Comes with a hitman mod (vertical attachment to pump)
~Bad~
The feedneck cannot get 100% tight. It can get tight enough to my standards but it can annoy some people.
If hold the pump forward while you are firing, it is a bit loud.
Spring blowback. This is my biggest Issue. When you fire this marker, the spring snaps back and makes a semi-loud "fart" noise. This noise is louder than a marker would naturally make when firing. Rumors on the internet say that this is fixable by re-springing though.
The hitman mod it comes with is chrome while the rest of the marker is black. Why Azodin, why!?!?
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| Conclusion: |
This is a very nice pump for beginners - experienced players. For $150, this is a great deal. I would recommend this marker to a friend. |
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Period of
Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Phantom, Sniper, a variety of Neslon and Sheridan based pumps |
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| Marker Setup: |
Azodin KP(Obviously)
Azodin Hitman Rod
Bob Long Torpedo Reg
Empire Barrel kit
GenXGlobal pocket hopper
47/3000 Centerflag HPA(preset 850psi)
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| Strengths: |
Loaded with stock features
nice pump stroke
ease of maintenance
value |
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| Weaknesses: |
In it's stock form it makes a 'farting' noise
no stock HPR |
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| Review: |
Packaging:
The Kaos Pump came in a nice thin two piece cardboard box. When I removed the lid I was greeted by the marker itself, nestled in form fitting cardboard and covered with a sheet of bubble wrap. It came packaged with a barrel, Azodin barrel bag, a complete rebuild kit(orings, screws, and a spare cup seal), a manual, and a uninstalled 'hitman' rod. The manual is simple and straightforward. It outlines the basics(maintenence, breakdown, and velocity adjustment) but itsn't anything too impressive.
First Impressions:
I have to say that my first impressions were very good. The marker doesn't feel 'cheap' at all. The milling is nice and the dust black ano is flawless. I was going down the list of features in my head and I still can't believe that it all came stock in a sub $150 marker. It's got a clamping feedneck, a very nice pump kit, a stock 'hitman' rod, delrin bolt, ion threaded clamping feedneck, cocker threads, and the gripframe has a buld-in rail in addition to being able to take standard 2 hole bottomlines. I was leary about a double trigger on a pump, but it's actually quite comfotable. Everything feels quality. I think the only thing that struck me as odd was that it has no stock regulator, instead it has a gas thru. I'm assuming that's to keep cost down and also because most players upgrade HPR's anyways. I should mention that it doesnt' NEED an HPR, but having one allows you to really fine tune it.
Pump Stroke:
I really am having a hard time understanding how the stock pump kit on here can be so damn good with the cost of this marker. The pump kit has it's own built in pump guide that eliminates side to side play in the handle. The pump grip itself is matching dust black aluminum and is threaded on the bottom to accept the included SS hitman rod. The pumpstroke is very smooth and firm(no sloppy side to side play in the handle). Due to the design of the KP(stack tube), the amount of resistance on the pumpstroke is going to be dependant on the mainspring. That said, it's fairly light in it's stock form but mine is a bit heavy as I replaced the mainspring with a stiffer one to lower the operating pressure. I'll elaborate on this later. Heavy, but super smooth. I can feel a bit of drag on it when I pump via the hitman rod, but none when I hold the handle. With the stock spring I can't feel the drag with the hitman rod at all.
Teardown and Maintenance:
The first thing I did with my KP was a complete teardown, inspection, and lube. One of the nicest things about this amrker is how simple it is. The bolt slides out the back once you lift on the pull pin. Next, the rear cap unscrews without tools and the mainspring and hammer can be accessed. The gripframe is held on with two screws, as is the ASA. All in all it took about 7 minutes to dissassemble, lude, and reassemble the entire marker. There we no aluminum burrs and the marker appeared to have a small amount of lube in it from the factory. All good here.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to shoot much yet, but by the weekend I plan to put another 500 marbs through it. All I can say so far is that it's damn quiet and shoots darts. There is slight recoil when it shoots, but nothing major. I haven't tried the stock barrel yet, I went right to my empire kit. More updates as I get to use it. I will use the stock abrrel a bit too.
The only gripe I would have so far is that it does make a brief 'farting' sound in it's stock form. This doesn't affect performance but it is annoying. From what I've read it's an issue of airflow vs valve design. I added a HPR and turned the input pressure down a few hundred PSI in addition to increasing the tension of the mainspring. This eliminated the noise but it also increased the weight of the pumpstroke. I plan to pickup a high flow valve soon and return to the stock spring. Azodin just released a high flow valve, and AKA and 32* made some high flow valves for spyders that are drop in upgrades for the KP. I'll get one of them and see how they do.
I'm also curious about the barrel. It has a patented 'Triad' ball retention system to reduce rollouts. It basically has an oring and 3 'nicks' in a groove in the barrel end. that allow the oring to 'peek' through the breach and hug the ball. I've heard good and bad about this. Some say it will cause chops, others don't. After I can get a few hundred rounds through it I'll update with my thoughts.
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| Conclusion: |
So far, I'm very impressed with initial quality. It's loaded with features and came stock with a full repair kit. Teardown is a cinch and has pretty smooth operation. Honestly, I'd expect a pump with these features that shoots this nice to cost double what these go for new. If you want to pick up a really nice pump that's loaded with features without dumping $300-500, buy one. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
my friends phantom |
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| Marker Setup: |
azodin kp,redz barrel kit, modded winchester pocket hopper, 68/30 or 48/30 tank with spyder remote line |
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| Strengths: |
Accurate, light, smooth pump |
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| Weaknesses: |
Aluminum pump handle |
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This gun is crazy. Me and my friend shot crappy paint thru it and they were landing right on top of each other. Really light, and an extremely smooth pump stroke. Very easy to clean, theres only like 4 parts
The only bad thing is its loud if you hold the pump handle when you shoot |
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| Conclusion: |
For 150, its a steal. I was hitting my target from the opposite side of the field |
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Period of
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| 6 months | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
CCI Phantom
Sheridan PGP
Sheridan Anihhalator
Sheridan PMI-1
Nelspot Challenger II |
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| Marker Setup: |
Azodin KP
CP 14 in .685 Barrel
Check it Products Bore lock adaptor
Winchester 50 drum hopper
Crossfire 68/4500 |
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| Strengths: |
Light
Compact
Smooth
Accurate
Ergonomical
Simple to maintain
Amazing!!!
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| Weaknesses: |
Loud as Hell!!!
Farts (ill explain why)
LOW quality metals are used
Made in Taiwan |
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| Review: |
The first time I shot my friends KP, it sold me. The next day I went out and bought one. Out of the box it was great although I'm pretty picky when It comes to my favorite set-up. I threw on a Critical Clamping feedneck, CP Mini on/off ASA, CP Classic 14' .685 barrel, and a Check it Products Bore lock (detents to prevent roll-outs). Now at the chrono I am able to get +7/-7, and hit a target the size of a campbells soup can from 35 feet away. Overall awsome gun, although the quality of the metal they use is VERY low. The whole gun is made of a cheaply manufactured Aluminum. The pump rod on mine broke after 3 monthes of use. Although they're a very good company and offered to give me a whole new pump rod assembly for free, but I'm going to stick with the one that I machined out of Steel. Overall a very good solid little pump gun and at $150 you cant complain..... |
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if your wanting to get into pump, or already pump it up and want to add another to the pump collection, Buy this gun you will not be dissapointed, trust me, unless you don't like something quality that works perfectly, if you like that then you should buy a Brass Eagle pump instead :) |
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| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, November 4th, 2009 at 9:43 pm PST |
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Core202 |
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Wednesday, April 15th, 2009 |
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Period of
Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
None this is my first pump. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Azodin Kaos Pump
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| Strengths: |
Pump stroke
Pump kit
Bolt
Price
Feel |
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| Weaknesses: |
Barrel
Regulator |
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I got this gun today at my local paintball shop and this thing is great. For 150$ this thing is a ton of gun. It is very solid and has a nice pump stroke. I shot it and it shoots straight and very accurate. The only thing i dont like about it is the new triad barrel system. It is supposed to keep the ball from rolling out of the barrel but it doesnt work, if you tilt it to low the ball just rolls out. |
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I definately recommend this to anyone who is starting to play pump or is even intermediate. Its a very solid gun for its price tag, and this gun wont disappoint. |
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Period of
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Less than a month |
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Phantom, Trilogy with Sanchez Machinery pump conversion, Proto Matrix 7, Spyder electra 09 |
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| Marker Setup: |
Stiffi Switch 14" barrel
Powerlyte barrel kit
Pure Energy 68/4500
Hitmen 13ci/3000
Vlocity Jr. with Gangster chip
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| Strengths: |
Accurate and smooth pump stroke. |
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| Weaknesses: |
It's loud but if you put a reg it shoots quietly |
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I love the smooth pump stroke. Very accurate comparable to the phantom and the WGP trilogy pump. Some modifications required to get rid of the farting sound (just replace the back spring with a longer one from Spyders or Piranha's).
I added a Dye hyper 2 regulator and a proto on/off asa.
The marker surprised me several times with the accuracy and consistency. I was to consistently hitting goggles from 30-60 feet. Because of the consistency I was able to get a lot of one-shot-kills.
Update December 31, 2009:
We played under the rain in cold weather 6 degrees C. The marker was reliable and did not break down. I had to remove the hitman mod and just use the pump because it was becoming sticky under the rain.
Some people tried out the Azodin pump and was amazed at the consistency and how light it was. Still the best entry level pump for the money.
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I highly recommend this pump marker. Great job Azodin! You get a lot more for your money. |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, December 31st, 2009 at 11:51 am PST |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 0 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Open Class Phantom
Trilogy Pump |
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Azodin Kaos Pump
J&J Elite Edge Barrel Kit
Cp Regulator
On/off
Winchester 100 round hopper
13ci tank |
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| Strengths: |
Accuracy
Feel (Personal Opinion)
Looks
Farting noise |
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| Weaknesses: |
For me, there were none, I think the farting is a plus. |
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I absolutely love this marker! With the J&J barrel kit, this thing shoots darts. I would reccomend using HPA with this marker or with any marker period. It's best that you get a barrel kit for this marker, because the o-ring on the barrel tends to break for most people, but not me. I actually prefer this over an open class phantom because of the balance and weight, the phantom feels odd and more like a toy while this thing just feels purely amazing.
Not to put the phantom down or anything, It's just my opinion. The milling looks good, it could be better but that is me personally. The double trigger is light compared to other markers like a JT-Tac5. You barely notice it when you're playing.
If you want to get rid of the farting, buy a spyder magnaport valve. |
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This gun is absolutely amazing! It's up there with the phantom.
A phantom costs 100 more, but if you put 100 worth of upgrades on this thing, it could possibly surpass the phantom. My setup in my opinion is better than any phantom. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 0 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
tippman a5-not my style
spyder compact-backup gun
wgp synergy- :-( |
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| Marker Setup: |
azodin kaos pump
12oz co2
200rd hopper or micro 40 rd hopper(homemade) |
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| Strengths: |
Inexpensive
Accurate
Slick looking
Easy to take appart
Love it, never goin back to semi |
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Loud when u hold the handle while shooting |
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first ever pump gun, and never going back
i went in the rain to go paintballing today, i though , oh crap im gona get pwned using a pump, but i owned , and got two goggle shots, one it was with only 1 shot
me and my friend played a game, 2 pumps, verses 2 semis, and me and my friend owned them
i let a bunch of my friends try it, and they r thinking of switching over to pump
i love this gun, but dont use old paint, or it may crack in the barrel
ball retention system works awsome, and no balls fell out during the day
is fun and is good for people who have never played pump before
the only thing is that you get funny comments like
-so how many times do u pump it
-wow, it must be cheaper without using co2
-whats that
-or the best quote of the day (looks at my friend) woooow......... its a tippman 98
PROS
This gun is accurate, but loud if you hold the pump while shooting
gass efficent(got like 650 shots off of a 12oz tank)
really cool
can be cleaned easily
smooth pump stroke
quiet when u dont hold the pump while shooting
CONS
some chops(probably because of homemade hopper)
guide for the gun isnt best, but shows how to take appart and clean the gun
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| Conclusion: |
nice gun for 150$
very nice and reliable
cool looking
sweet deal
AWSOME FOR GETTING INTO PUMP!!! |
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