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PMI Piranha BL VF G3 Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
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Average Rating: |
8.4 / 10 |
Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$150 |
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Features:
-Vertical feed body
-No elbow necessary |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 6 months | 8 of 9 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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I have also played with a friend's Piranha eForce. Not bad at all. Compared to the G3, its way better. My friend had to install a bottomline onto it, but I like the electric trigger on it. Compared to the G3 BL VF its much better, because its pretty much a G3 with electric trigger, Venturi bolt, and some more internal upgrades. |
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| Marker Setup: |
I use a Piranha BL VF with a 20 ounce CO2 (PMI Pure Energy with a PMI Butt-plate on it), Venturi bolt, PMI Gravity fed hopper, 14" Jnj ceramic barrel and a JT nVader mask. Most of my stuff if for woods-ball. |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
I would reccomend you start off with a barrel. The stock barrel is Okay, but compared to the Jnj 14" Ceramic barrel I installed on mine, it fires much farther. Don't make the common mistake that a longer barrel is better because it shoots longer! Sure you can stick it through bunkers, but you can't play as tight to bunkers, and the longer barrel can cause more friction, use more air and actually decrease the performance of your marker, not increase.
Your next upgrade should be a bolt. Go for a Venturi bolt. It distributes air over the surface of the paintball more evenly, reducing breaks and chops.
Of course, if you really want to get a good rate of fire, you're going to need a fast-feeding hopper. A Revvy or Halo B is a good choice. I have never actually used an electric hopper because I don't shoot that fast that often. I'd much rather save my money. However, I do know players that can't play wihtout an electric hopper. Go for one of the above I reccomended. I reccomend the revvy over the HAlo. Who needs a hopper more expensive then your gun. Just get a 12v revvy and save up for a tank..
The last upgrades you'd want to get are for your air system. If you have an electric hopper, nice bolt and like to shoot a lot of paint in a short amount of time, HPA is for you. When you fire CO2 in a marker, every shot is going to be at a different velocity, unless you wait a while for the CO2 to expand, and refresh in between shots. Not a good thing. Also liquid CO2 can damage your internals, not to mention hinder your ability to shoot fast.
Compressed Air, HPA or N2 will do the trick. For the most part, its referred to as Nitrogen. Usually, fields will fill HPA tanks with Compressed air as opposed to Nitrogen. Air is basicly 78.1% nitrogen already, so using Pure N2 won't make much of a change. Nitrogen has a very low condensing temperature, so to get liquid N2, you'd have to cool it a lot. As for air, you'd also have to drop the temperature signifigantly to make it condense. So liquid isn't much of a problem with HPA. HPA is also more reliable. It is more consistant, so every shot you fire will be whatever PSI your regulator is set for. PMI Pure Energy is a popular brand of tanks, and I'd reccomend them. |
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| Strengths: |
Quiet, good reliability, simpel design, cheap price. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Needs regular maintanance. Bad stock barrel. Needs simple upgrades. |
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| Review: |
I won't lie. Its a pretty basic marker. It doesn't come with much, but for the price you pay for it, its about right.
I am the kind of guy who takes care of his marker and has pictures of real guns all over his room. I pull out two cloth diapers after every game, strip the marker completely to its bones, wash them off (in water if the paint is really in there good) and re-oil and reassemble my marker. I do it twice a week if I'm not playing and I do it the night before and usually after games. The Night before I just oil up the bolt assembly.
The stock barrel isn't that good, but it will shoot. I just got my JnJ Ceramic 14" Barrel (PMI markers take Spyder threaded barrels) and have only played with it once. I have noticed a significant change in my performance, but thats not to say I didn't have fun playing with the stock barrel.
I have only had one double feed, and it was because I double cocked my marker (That is, uncocking it, and cocking it again, putting two rounds in the chamber.
It did break down on me once, but I just needed a new tank O-ring. Luckily a cool kid was there to give me one of his. Thanks M8!
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Let's sum up what we have gone over:
-Stock barrel needs upgrading
-Bolt needs upgrading
-For faster shooting, get an electric trigger and electric hopper
-For consistency and overall better accuracy (but remember, the gun only shoots as good as the player plays), get HPA
-Needs regular maintenance
-Cheap
-Quiet
I hope you choose the G3 marker. Its great. Spyders are very similar to Piranha's. Some people consider Piranha's "clones" of spyders, hence the name Spyder Clone.
Some other things to consider is paint-barrel match (every barrel and style of paint has a different size (example: .685, .687 ) |
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| Rating: |
| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, June 3rd, 2004 at 12:26 pm PST |
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Saturday, September 13th, 2003 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Only tested | 6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyders |
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| Marker Setup: |
Green Spyder Aggressor XT, black 14" PMI Razzor barrel, 14 oz. co2 |
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| Strengths: |
This thing is EXTREMELY quiet! Stock barrel isn't bad. |
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| Weaknesses: |
No foregrip (not a problem for me, might be for some). See review for rest. |
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| Review: |
This gun belongs to my friend, but i used it before. Here's what I found:
STRENGTHS:
Very, very, very, very quiet. I couldn't believe how quiet it was compared to my gun. Sounds like a 'cocker. The stock barrel isnt bad, but it could be better. I didnt chop any balls using it, nor did I break any. Easy to strip/clean. Good customer service, upgrades available. Nice beginner gun. Lightwieght.
WEAKNESSES:
Velocity isn't always steady (fixed by nitrogen and a regulator). No foregrip on it, but that didn't bother me. It might bother some people though, and that's why I mentioned it. I did double feed a few times, but no breaks or chops. Kind of a gas hog. |
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| Conclusion: |
Buy it if you want a project gun, a first gun, or something to get friends started. Is fine right out of the box. Stock barrel isnt bad, but not great. Takes Spyder parts, so it is upgradeable. Can find in packages for around $100 if you look around. Great deal. |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, September 18th, 2003 at 8:17 am PST |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 6 of 22 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
6 months |
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| Marker Setup: |
BL VF G3 with drop forward |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
scrap it and get a spyder |
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| Strengths: |
good scrap metal, Vertical feed |
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| Weaknesses: |
Chops ALOT, inaccurate, |
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| Review: |
It is horrible, If you want a good entry level gun go with spyder, they are cheaper and better. I just bought a spyder xtra for 75 and it includes an x chamber and better barrel as well as a venturi bolt.
velocity adjustment knob broke off when i shot and hit my arm, the barrel sucks, the bolt sucks, The block that explode and hit me is made of plastic.
IT DOESNT HAVE A LOW PRESSURE CHAMBER< ITS A SOLID PIECE OF STEEL
Overpriced for what you get |
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| Conclusion: |
Dont get it, PMI has horrible quality control.
you can get a 50 dollar spyder victor thats better!!!! |
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| Rating: |
| 2 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, December 31st, 2003 at 2:41 pm PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 6 months | 5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar Products Used: |
Tippman 98 Model/Custom |
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| Marker Setup: |
Piranha G3 VF BL w/ 14" Teardrop Barreland a 20 oz. co2 system.
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Teardrop Barrell |
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| Strengths: |
Quiet, Doesn't chop any balls, consistent, lightweight, very air efficient, durable. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Bad stock barrell. No forehand grip. |
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| Review: |
I got this gun after playing with my tippman 98 for 6 months and this is a much better gun. I use it every weekend with my friends and it is very good with air. I used to get about 600 shots with 20 oz with my tippman, now I get almost 1000. It has no forehand grip but that doesnt bother me at all, I am just as good with one hand anyways. |
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| Conclusion: |
This is great for anyone just starting to play or for anyone who just plays with their friends. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 1 year | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder stuff:compact, java, victor, e-99....um tippy: pro carbine n model 98.....ive playd around with angels and autocockers.......thats bout it |
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| Marker Setup: |
Piranha G3 VF BL w/:
-PMI custom spring kit put in
-BL taken off and added ACI SUb-Zero 6 stage expansion chamber
-PMI Venturi Bolt
-14" Smart Parts Teardrop Barrel
-upgraded PMI Piranha Aluminum Trigger frame
-20 oz co2 system |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
um watever u want...but def. a new barrel |
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| Strengths: |
pretty accurate, durable, fast shooting, lightweight, not too loud, the field strip pin |
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| Weaknesses: |
um the stock barrel could be better....other than that this is an amazing gun |
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| Review: |
I haven;t had ne problems with this gun... It does exactly wat it is sed to do...n then sum.... it is a great gun for all skills of paintballers n isnt very expensive....if you want a great gun that you can upgrade and wont put a dent in ur wallet then get it.... with the upgrades ive done to it...it is easily tourney grade material....its very ez to clean/strip and isnt complicated at all....you should be very impressed with this gun |
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| Conclusion: |
great gun...cant say nething else....simply its a great gun...go buy it now....there are better guns out there...but for the class of markers i give it a 10 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 2 years | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
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| Marker Setup: |
Piranha BL VF G3, 32 degrees bob long expansion chamber |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
expansion chamber, new barrel with porting |
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| Strengths: |
This is a very light gun which is nice when you need a quick reaction when seeing a enemy. Also this gun is very easy to upgrade. This gun is VERY accurate. This gun is very good for the money. VERY easy to take out and put back in the internals. |
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| Weaknesses: |
The front of the hammer bent back a little. Not a problem though its easy to fix. |
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| Conclusion: |
If you want a good gun but dont want to pay a bundle for it buy this gun. This gun is good for back yard games. Also buy this gun if you dont want to get too involved in paintball. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 6 months | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
spyder imagine(tested) |
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| Marker Setup: |
9 inch stock barrel(i suggest u buy an upgrade but its a so-so barrel) 9 ounce c02 i also have a 14 inch pmi razzor barrel which does cut down the distance slightly but its great for woodsball |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
new barrel, |
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| Strengths: |
Quiet,Doesnt use alot of co2,Light,Never chops |
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| Weaknesses: |
Bad stock barrel |
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This is my first marker,its great for a cross between begginer and intermedient players.i own a black marker and barrels and its is good camo for woodsball and town.i suggest u get the black rather than a bright "shoot me now" red,yellow ect. it can shoot 7 balls a second max! thats pretty good for a semi gun. if your a hardcore woodsball player this is your gun! some people may get frusterated at the grips but it doesnt bug me.since i play woodsball alot,,i dive like im in a pool.the grip offers freat protection from you diving on the hard ground and demolishing your gun. by the way it is very durable also. |
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Buy this gun,its great |
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Friday, September 22nd, 2006 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 years | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Triton, Avenger, Rapter< tippmann custom pro. |
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| Marker Setup: |
All stock co2 powered Expansion Chamber. |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Expansion Chamber
barrel |
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| Strengths: |
Silence,
Durablility.
easy to strip and clean.
no elbow required.
great feel to it |
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| Weaknesses: |
None |
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| Review: |
I purchased this marker about 3-4 Years ago now and I never regretted it. It never breaks and always preferms great. it is very silent which I love and feels great holding it. very smooth and easy to clean and looks great.. with teh Xchamber it is also very gas efficent. |
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Great for begginers or pros. i used it and learned how markers work and after taking it apart so often i can strip and clean prety much anything. preforms just about as good as My new custom pro and has never let me down in 3 years. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 2 years | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Assorted spyders |
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| Marker Setup: |
Currently:
Dust red proto
Virtue
ST clamp neck
ST On off
Lucky 15
Reloader B
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Recommended Upgrades: |
E frame if you want, Barrel, bolt, reg, the choice is yours |
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| Strengths: |
It is a TANK
No chops
fairly accurate
SIMPLE |
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| Weaknesses: |
speed
lack of bling
This is a rental gun in most places lol |
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My first marker, awww.......
I had some incarnation of this, not sure which verson but this is the closest.
What can I say its a basic blowback, its reliable and easy, it shoots where you point it. Its not aswem Dm6 speed, but it does the job. No chops at all, and no breakdowns. Strangely efficent |
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| Conclusion: |
Broke and want to play paintball?
Really cheep, reliable, and fun.
If this is in your price range.........
BUY IT!!! |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 4 years | 1 of 1 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder Xtra
Piranha R6
F4 illustrator
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| Marker Setup: |
Piranha G3 BL VL
16" CP Barrel
Venturi bolt
20oz co2 tank
Warped Sportz Drop Forward
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Recommended Upgrades: |
venturi bolt
barrel
expansion chamber
ram air
if u have the money use HPA i know ud rather buy a new marker instead of HPA but air makes a world of a difference
spring kit |
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| Strengths: |
Accuracy
cheap
rugged / durable
quiet |
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| Weaknesses: |
Drop off in cold weather
Ball breaks cause large problems |
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| Review: |
I got this marker as a Christmas present way back when it first came out and i was amazed at how well it worked it almost always shoots straight and is always very quiet.
i also purchased a venturi bolt for it the first time i played with it and the accuracy increased a lot. |
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| Conclusion: |
Awesome gun for beginners or small budgets it a very nice marker for woods play. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, March 30th, 2006 at 4:21 pm PST |
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