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Diablo Sabatoge, with bottomline Empire Reloadhopper and 14 in. J&J Ceramic Barrel
right out of the box the gun works well but it'd be smart to strip it and oil up the parts and a barrel but you don't NEED a new barrel its accurate right out of the box, but kinda loud, but if wanna get a new barrel after w hile becsue the only thing you should improve this gun on is range...electronic trigger if you can...
big trigger pull
i got this gun after i went my first time but i didn't want to spend a bunch of $$$ so i read some reviews asked some friends and they said that this gun was a good bet. its accurate right out of the box and the velocity adjuster is very easy to use. you dont need anything right away for this gun but if you want to get a barrel first. then i'd get an electronic trigger becasue the trigger pulls pretty big. you only have to get a 12 oz. CO2 beacsue its very efficient...then an agitadd hopper but mainly a barrel
so if you have a tight buget of you just dont wanna spend a lot of money and you want a durable gun get this gun. you dont have to upgrade this gun for a while so get this gun!
10 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, March 21st, 2004 at 6:29 pm PST
It shoots really well, its light it looks real nice.
The barrel it comes with isnt that good.
The gun is very nice and it comes cheap. The barrel it somes with isnt that good its shoots crooked but when u get a new one its an amazing gun. This looks amazing and shoots just as well. But if u put a new barrel on the gun it will shoot 10 times as good. I've been able to take out people with 3 times as more expensive guns.
I would definatly recomend this gun for anyone. Put on a new barrel and it could beat anyone on the feild!
Inferno Field Marker - good but Heavier, more chops
Spyder Classic - same build, costs alot more, chopped
Smart Parts Progressive Barrel
Gas through grip/Expansion chamber
Reliable, Doesn't hop, Light
All bolts & screws come loose! Go over the gun with thread-lock or check&tighten
Do Not be fooled by the price, this is a GREAT marker. I would recomend this to anyone who fancies playing paintball, without paying site prices.
Having played site based Rec Ball for several years I finely managed to find a group of people all willing to buy kit and play in some private woods. 3 of us bought Sabotages after reading the review in What paintball mag.
We have been playing every week for the last few months. Hardly any problems. No Ball breakages!!!
KEEP AN EYE ON BOLTS & SCREWS. Two of us have lost clips off the retaining pin and I lost one of the bolts holding the figger frame on. All easily fixed, used safty pins or the rings off key rings to replace clips, got new bolt from hardware shop (for free, Bargain)
Buy this gun if you want to mess around with painballing, but don't want to spend big bucks
i dunno, the only other gun i have ever used is the tippmann 98
stock sabotage bottomline, 12 oz co2, basic hopper
barrel for sure, an expansion chamber, and a gas thru for grip
Durable, light, nice black finish, accurate, hasn't broke a ball yet.
barrel is loud, and you get a puff of co2 from barrel, not much else.
This marker is beautiful. when i opened up the box, i have to say i was really suprised at the quality, pick this thing up and you can just tell it is tough, the grip is fairly comfortable, and despite being plastic the double trigger is strong, its easy to strip. I went out and bought some crappy BE paint and wow, this thing is accurate, i can easily get 6 bps on it, i shot 200 rnds and never broke a ball and that is using BE paint. there was a sharp edge on it somewhere, cause i cut my thumb open on it, but i haven't found the edge yet. The feed blocks the top of the gun so you have to sight down the side, but that doesn't really bother me, i still hit the target every time. When i said this thing is accurate i meant it, for a stock barrel it is amazing, i hit my neighbour from about 75feet, in a heavily wooded forest, through lots of under brush, the balls go where you point them.
Buy this marker if you are just starting out and want a reliable gun. Buy this marker if you have experience and want a good tough reliable gun. Just buy the marker already, i got a great deal on it, 200$ for the gun, the tank, the hopper, v-force armor mask, squeegee, elbow and barrel plug(thats canadian currency btw).
Excellent gun, excellent value.
Diablo Sabotage b/l, Empire Twister 14" barrel, 32 degrees 6 stage expansion chamber, 3" drop forward, co2
barrel, expansion chamber or regulator
- well built
- double trigger
- difficult to get high fps with stock springs
- no 45 grip frame
When you open the box you won't be disappointed. A nice anodized black finish. Just screw on the co2 and the hopper and away you go. The stock barrel is better than some other stock barrels on other starter markers, even though it is quite loud. I really cannot fault this marker, and you'll be pushed to find a marker that is as good for the price.
Well, if you are looking for an inexpensive start to paintballing, go for this marker, as you will not be disappointed. It's a well built and reliable marker, which capable of coping with co2 and nitro. You won't regret buying this marker.
aftermarket barrell, exp. chamber, good drop forward
This marker is soooooooo reliable it's almost boring.Std barrell is o.k. if you desire a good spread of paint, it'''s very lightweight & easy to manage(if a little back-heavy), gives a very acceptable rate of fire, ultra smooth & light trigger mech, takes about 25 seconds to field strip, can be upgraded like mad,
rarely chops balls with a revvy on, not bad on gas.
this is the perfect begginner/ second gun in my mind. It's simple, reliable & accurate & for £53.00 from fatbobspaintball.co.uk, culdn't represent better value for money for a semi marker. Certainly the best semi marker for under £100 I've ever had the pleasure to fire.
Nothing's perfect (WGP E-ranger excepted) First time out I lost the locking clip for the field strip pin, soon fixed with a split pin though. It's got a Euro grip fitted to it so you can't get decent sticky grip to fit, when I first got this gun, it would NOT fire over 220 f.p.s. but with a little coaxing with a piece of 6mm dowel behind the spring, voila ! 310 f.p.s. when fully dialled in 1/4 turn out to 300 on the dot !
The trigger feels REALLY fragile at first ( not helped by the plastic trigger guard ) but proves to be tougher than old boots & with practice will happily oblige at 6-7 b.p.s.
All round excellent marker, with some upgrading can produce astonishing results. If you're reading this looking for a tournament marker, go elswhere.
Don't get me wrong, it's well rugged enough, just not toooo fast. If your'e reading this looking for a good all-round rec/ woods gun this could be for you.
Cheap & chearful maybe, but we aint all Rockerfeller ! You will never regret plumbing for this gun & if you do, you shouldn't be balling in the first place.
YOU CANNOT GO WRONG WITH THIS MARKER.
Spyder, Rebel, Tippmann, Pirahna and some other blowbacks.
2002 shocker sport, ecIipse trigger, hogue grips and freak. I also own a Smart Parts Impulse with a 32 degrees drop forward, its mostly stock. But good enough for me. I am a field owner and use the sabotage as my rental guns.
New barrel, drop forward, revolution and maybe a regulator.
I bought 10 of these as rentals for my field and was not disopointed. Rugged and sturdy, I took one out of the box and put it to the tourcher test. Throughing it on the ground, shooting straight down siphoning liquid CO2 out of it and rapidly firing it never jammed, I then tilted it just right so it would chop every ball and it never jammed and seemed to clean its self out fairly well. Past the field owners test! Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.
The stock barrel is not to bad for renters and I was actually impressed with it but if this gun is going to be used as your main gun then I recomend a new barrel. The only real problems I had was getting the velocity over 270 fps it required some clipping of springs but I'm sure if you got a little bit better barrel it would help increase the velocity. Other than that I've been very happy!
I like these things, you can really rail on the trigger although its very long its smooth and light and you can get a great rythm on it. Holds up in cold and hot weither and is pretty good looking to. Cheap too!
This marker is pretty nice for the money. I bought it for my mother(she plays paintball with her friends and i was getting her her own gun so she didnt have to borrow people's anymore) and she likes it alot i havent used it much just shot a few times. but overall its shoots pretty well and dead on
this gun double feeds balls time to time... not sure why but im sure the problem will be fixed soon:). and the stock barrel is pretty cheesy no porting at all and its very very loud!
for the money its a good marker to start out with. If your just getting in and wanna see if you like the sport this one is for you. Anything about an amatuer i wouldnt suggest it.... you will be really let down by it.....
This gun is either good or bad depending on what you're planning to use the gun for. If you are planning to just use it for target practice it's a good gun, with decent accuracy. If you're planning to play paintball with others, beware: when you tip the gun down all the paintballs go through the gun and fall out. Seriously. Whenever i tip the gun down the painballs go through the hopper, down into the chamber, and fall out through the barrel. I have bought 2 of these guns and they both have the same problem. My neighbor is a professional paintball player and he looked at the gun and could not fix this problem. So this is not a gun for serious use.
Not a good gun at all for anything but target shooting.