The Vengeance Base marker comes complete with all system X original parts, Vengeance frontblock regulator, 6-way adjustable Vengeance Regulator, Tacky grips, Inline V-Regulator, Swing Trigger, Everything on this marker was made by the people at System X.
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The System X Vengeance Base is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
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Vengeance base model,Kapp 03 cradle,SX delrin bolt/pull pin back block,On Target Demonic barrel,Kapp cocking rod,Shocktech ball detent, pure energy 88/3000 tank,
Recommended Upgrades:
delrin bolt - pull pin back block
Strengths:
Very accurate,little kickback,comes w/awesome equipment.
Weaknesses:
twister bolt/back block,regulator
Review:
Awesome marker, great price,couldn't have made a better investment,very adjustable trigger pull,smooth operater.
The twister bolt was hard to pull,I've used 400 grit sand paper to get burrs out of the back block -helped a little bit-then just replaced with delrin bolt and pull pin back block.
Conclusion:
awesome value,great tech support,top line marker,
buy a 12 volt rev., a good tank, and a better barrel
WGP Autococker 2000,KAPP flame autococker 2001,2000 sto Autococker with KAPP hinge,ANS GX-4
Marker Setup:
ANS GX-E with A.C.E.,nickle plated
DYE sticky 3's
J&J two piece barrel
Pure Energy 88cu 3000psi fiber tank
12v Revvy with Xboard
Recommended Upgrades:
everything.....change the internals,the pneumatics,the inline reg,bolt,barrel,put a drop forward on it....change it all
Strengths:
it looks like an autococker
Weaknesses:
it is cheaply made,the pneumatics are terrible,and it needs a real anno job!!!
Review:
I got the System x based on the reviews and the price seemed good,upon arrival I took one look at it and thought wow that is one ugly 'cocker.....After i aired it up at the field,it immediately leaked from the front lpr,i adjusted it and the three way started leaking,i finally got it to stop leaking after completely retiming it,i had a pmi razor barrel so i screwed it on to find a gap inbetween the body and barrel, i tried several different barrels all with the same result,I finnally shoot it and the feel was terrible,it chopped paint badly and it choked on me........final result ,I went home angry.
Conclusion:
stay away from this thing,if you are looking to get into 'cockers,get something that wont totally frustrate you,i got it working excellent,after replacing everything i could have had a much nicer model for the money......
Rating:
1 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, March 19th, 2004 at 7:01 pm PST
The trigger frame wasnt made to the universal demensions of all standard autocockers. The safety on these are smaller than the average pin size. Also the screw holes for the grip are spaced farther apart than other standard autcockers.
The stock barrel is unaccurate. In my own field test at 75 feet and 100 feet in preformed badly. At 75 feet the shots were missing on average 4-5 inches off the center mark. At 100 feet that average moved up to 7-8 inches off.
The front pneumatics are very poorly made. When firing faster I expiericed 3 way leaks. Also the front regulator doesn't cycle air fast enough, causing drop off in shots. Same as follows for the vertical regulator.
The bolt which was designed as a full face bolt to allow maximum airflow is bad aswell. As all stock are made of metal you can expect it to wear out the breech of your gun.
the beavertail on this thing is what i resent the most. The thing is so weak and flimsy it feels as if it will break any moment.
The vertical feed neck doesnt hold hoppers too well either. My evo II spins around on the thing and a layer of tape is too thick for it.
Conclusion:
As I said before, this gun is made poorly and looks like it wasn't planned very well. It's more trouble than it's worth to turn this gun into a tournament level paintball gun which can stand up against the guns at the top of the food chain. In my tests and analysis during play, it's a pain in the butt. I recommend going with companies that know what they're doing. I cant stress enough..DONT BUY THIS GUN!
Lot of markers...From Angel's to autocockers to automags to emags
Recommended Upgrades:
I did not own it, I played two games with it....
Strengths:
It is impossible to shortstroke...or the one I shot was...
Weaknesses:
Well, from the two games I did play with it I did not like it. The trigger is extreamly heavy, and if you find a way to short-stroke this thing your a complete moron...
Conclusion:
Well, from the two games I did play with it I did not like it. The trigger is extreamly heavy, and if you find a way to short-stroke this thing your a complete moron...I really not like it because the one I used was a COMPLETE newb's gun, too, but we got some shell stuck in there and it was a nightmare!
