Didnt like the hardline. i see why the used it though.
I got to say this is one nice looking gun. eye kandy. there is also a gauge you can look at when you are adusjting how much air goes into your expansion chamber. neat lcd screen. easy to read. diffrent firing modes. thats cool.kind of complicating but i got use to it. also there is a game timmer i recently figured out how to use. it has alarms to so it beeps when the time is up. the cool thing is that the trigger frame is diffrent from normal spyder guns. this has a full trigger guard wich is pretty useful and looks good. id rather have paint hit that then my hands. also this gun comes with a flat tirgger stock. it just makes it easy for me so i dont have to spend anymore mone on buying a sweetspot trigger. with a flat trigger you can walk the trigger very easy. you can shot faster. the thing that surprised me that it was accurate. i used cheap balls to. i was looking at the reviews and they say its accuracy is bad. i try it out and it was on the money. now they call me the "one hit wonder" down at my field. it surprised me. most spyder guns arnt that accurate. they usaualy go straight for a awhile it curves. but not this one. i played with the c/a adapter till i got the air pressure right. enough for the ball to go straight and not to much to blow my lines and blow up the balls.one more thing i want to add is that this gun doesnt chop as much as people say. my friends gun chopped more than mines and they both have acs bolts. plus he had the evo 2 hopper while i had the revolution one. but you need a good electric hopper/loader. it even says it in the manual.
I would recomend this gun to anyone. this gun aint that expensive. common you got to look around. you can get a new one on ebay for about a 100 bucks and its new. i got mines from this guy. his bussiness is called "wavetogo" thats a deal. dont diss this gun because of the price. try it out for yourself!!! happy paintballing!!!
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, October 6th, 2006 at 1:24 am PST
WGP Autococker, All american 14 inch barrel, Orracle bolt.
For the love of got PLEASE get a new bolt if your buying this! A new barrel would be nice too.
Electronic trigger is nice, Inlet for charger, and thats about it.
Bolt, Barrel, chops balls like CRAZY
I have had this gun for over a year. I will tell you about some of the problems i have encountered with this gun, they are all TRUE so dont think i am aggsurating because i am not! This gun is good for anyone who is willing to upgrade just about everything on it and has the patiance to get it fixed alot, and does not mind chopping many many many paintballs. I would say 4 out of 10 balls get chopped with a full hopper. Also i have come to notice that the bolt just sucks so bad. The Anti double feed... wow that is a joke. Im not even sure if this has one installed. On my gun i just replaced a o-ring on my bolt which should have fixed the problem. Youd think so at least. It was still shooting 2-4 balls per shot. I would be very happy if i fired only one ball and it didnt get chopped. Now also this gun jams. it jams ALOT. I found myself (as a front player) many times getting out because my nexion kept jamming and i would have to recock it. I would say it jammed ever 7 to 10 shots on my gun. dont get me wrong, this gun would be great if you upgraded the bolt, barrel, the entire gas system and.... okay just about everything exept for the body and the trigger. Sometimes on the ride back from the field i felt a overwhelming urge to throw this pos out the window then shoot it with a bazooka. I am a pretty patiant person too. Who knows maybe my gun was just sent with some problems. If i were you i would NOT risk it. Even if it worked perfect there are SO MANY MUCH better guns out there you could buy for that large amount of money!
I have come to conclusion that... well this gun is the worst gun i have ever layed eyes on in my entire life. Truely it is the BIGGEST waste of money. Please! Do yourself a favor and save your $350 and buy a MUCH BETTER and much sweeter gun like a WGP vert feed autococker!
If you new to paintball you wont even notice it.
Every one says that this gun is expensive... well it is unless you have ebay if you go on ebay there a kingman dealer selling this gun for 169 buck including shipping so before you even think about buying this gun at a online store look on ebay if you can
if you cant find his ebay thing he has a web site famousguy.com but i dont think he sell his stuff nearly as cheap there
Evolution XL Electronic Hopper, New Bandit Bolt, 68/3000 Crossfire Bottle, Complete Freak All AMerican Barrel System
Barrel is a must.
Fast, Looks Great, Short Trigger Pull, Lot of Options.
Chops Balls like there is no tomorrow. Jams Constantly.
I purchased two of these guns. At this point I am very frustrated and dissapointed. I have to call about my electronic trigger. On one of the guns it doesn't work anymore. This is after only two times out to the field. The gun just died three times while in three seperate games. The gun cannot shoot in full auto even stock without busting two dozen balls in a game. With the new bolt, it is even worse. In semi auto it jams every 30 seconds. Most of the time, the gun needs to be taken apart. I am going to try and lower the air pressure below manufacturers specs and see if that helps. With the Freak Barrel it does shoot very very straight when it does shoot. With their supposed tournament barrel stock, at any long distance you can't hit the side of a barn. I am giving this gun one more chance when i get a new trigger to try and dial this gun in. It's possible that the gun has to be set up better then I have been able to do. I love the gun, the way it feels, the way it looks, the way it sounds, if I could just get it to fire properly. If not, both guns are going on ebay in two weeks and I will look for another gun. If the gun gets dialed in properly, and begins to work well, I will come back and change my opinion on this gun. It is only fair to do so.
If you have someone that has one and you can shoot it and not have the problems I am having then I would buy it. I would not buy one until the "bugs " are worked out. Again, it just may be the way mine are set up.
and a few other electro blow back markers
-ninja 50 ci 4500 psi hpa tank
-vl evolution 3 hopper
- jt proflex
-unwanted shots ( Read review)
- not very air efficient
I just recently bought this gun on sale for $80 which I thought wasn't bad considering the suggested retail price. I've shot it quite a bit since on of the main problems I have with it is Even in semi automatic it will sometimes shoot in bursts but that may be because of how close I adjusted the trigger but still. One of the very good things about is I've shot about a whole box of paint through it and didn't have a single break even on full auto at 13 bps as long as you ave an ok hopper I think you'll be fine. another thing is the weight, with a hopper and tank this thing weighs a ton but if your strong and can take it you should be good.
I would recommend this to someone who wants to play recreational and wants an electric gun it's ok but as soon as you get it you should adjust the trigger
j&j 14in barrel
pmi 20 oz co2 tank
wiggle in the trigger
no LCD cover
first off the gun is cool fun and gets paint down the field. most people have never seen it so a lot of people ask about it
it is a bit loud but not bad after a new aftermarket barrel is screwed in
the drop forward is weird but its easy to get used to
the bolt does scratch the internals but not badly
it shoots great it has chopped a ball or two but what gun hasn't chopped
its LCD screen is a bit exposed because there isn't a cover over it but its ok
its easy to take apart once the pull pin is broken in(a bit tight right out of the box)
the airline is solid but would be better with a steel braided hose but any gun is better with one
I would say its a great gun for the average player it gets the job done so go ahead and buy it and have fun.
Brass Eagle Raptor Silver Eagle (HAHA my First)
Tiller 2pc 16" Twist Barrel
48ci/3000 Pure Energy HPA
Kingmen Delrin ACS Bolt
Rocking Trigger Frame 2.0
High Pressure Air (Nitro)
Delrin ACS Bolt
Electric Agitated or Force Feed Hopper (minimum 14bps)
Very Good air consumption
Lots of unique milling
When I first got this marker it was stock with a 20oz co2 ran great. First shots chronoed @ 340. The Pressure and you Fps is extremely easy to adjust via a small set screw on the drop and a locking velocity adjust on the back of the marker.
Only problem was that the bolt if not religiously oiled and maintained will scratch inside of breach ( has not effected performance.) The stock feed neck seemed to jiggle just slightly but I placed 1 small 1/8 rubber o-ring under each neck screw to correct this. Those are the only problems I have ever had.
Stock barrel is really quite nice for a stock. Never Chopped a ball even at 13bps. Runs great on my HPA aswell strong vary consistent. Excellent on battery use. On a full charge battery I can probably get around 15,000 shots.
The stock trigger is really responsive and can adjusted to sit right on the switch giving you really fast firing. the marker it self is vary durable I play alot of woodsball with it aswell and it get smashed and banged all over the place. Never had a failure. Well balanced and comfortable grip. I love it. Plus noone on the fields i've played has ever seen one before.
I would recomend this product to anyone interested in Purchasing a blowback. In my opinion it is the best. I give it a 9/10 because the stock bolt should have been delrin from the get go and the stock feed neck slightly jiggles $0.10 fix. Other than that this thing will fight to the end.
No Electronic hopper yet, but used a friends Empire Reloader
You Need a E-Hopper
Easy to change modes
Whole LCD Screen
does Chop, that was using a terrible hopper, with Empire Reloader did fine
This gun did work fine with me, and i got it for only $150, and it was worth it, in my mind, this gun is great. It shot straight, and chopped few times. I am proud to be an owner of this. Although none of my friends no of Raven, i beleive they all will soon. It is not a superior gun, but it helps out alot
Great Gun, where i got it it was only $150, so it was cheap
gauge and LCD screen
very good right out of the box
LCD is hard to see and difficult to change settings on the field
Great starter gun, I got mine for about 200 bucks online
all you need is an electronic hopper and your good to go right out of the box
very comparible to the spyder pilot ACS
has several features on the LCD screen like:
timer (never used)
ball counter (very useful)
rate of fire (usefull with low end hoppers)
Have heard 2 types of reviews some claim it is Ravens first failure others sware by it.
Great starter electronic gun but pales in compareisson to high end guns
autococker prostock 04 with cp dropfoward, oricle bolt, and an all american barrel, viewloader egg 2, 68/4500 dye throttle
Smartparts ion with no-rise, Progressive barrel, egg 2, and 68/4500 dye throttle
a different gun, but if you get it,
mabe a new bolt
possibily a feedneck
if you have the money, a new regulator (cp works good)
Size (a little bit big)
I tried this gun out, and It was ok. It was like a good spyder. It looked really cool. a little too much like a spyder (I am not a spyder hater. I use them), I like the milling. it cuts the weight down, and looks nice too, but it is more expensive than a spyder, so you could get a ion, for the same and it would be better. I am not saying don't get this gun, but I am saying that it is like a really good spyder, and if you like then then it is a fine gun, but if you are looking for a really good gun, this is not the best. I like it, but i would rather use my ion that i got for $275, but I still like this gun, and it does its job well
This is a ok gun. you could do better with a different gun, but this works fine, and does its job well, it also looks real cool in my opnion, so i will give it a 7- not to low, not to high, a bit better than adverage
5 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, March 18th, 2006 at 11:45 am PST