Here it is, FINALLY. A practically flawless mechanical gun. The sister gun of the popular ICON-E, the Z series gun has all the goodies and great features, minus the electronics. Add to all of this a 2 year factory warranty and you will see why this is one of the best deals in paintball.
The 32 Degrees Icon Z is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
This gun is awesome. It shoots far and hard. If you are looking for a cheap paintball gun for around $70 this is your gun. My gun fires very straight and only chops paintball sometimes. I would definately reccomond this gun mostly for begginers, so if you are one buy this gun.
I went out to play with this marker a few days ago and it prefermed incredibly. i play conservative so im not a paint waster but a couple times i found myself shooting awfly fast on this machanical with NO chops. someone wrote"if you put an electro grip on this, itl be sweet" i thought that was retarded because you might as well buy an electro for twenty bucks more. besides, the way it is now is great. a few people complained about chops but ive experienced none. This gun is light, comfortable, speedy, powerful, and affordable. On top of great performance, theres great managability. its easy field strip and fits most marker accessories. Ive never played with the stock barrell, i use a CMI 16 incher and that takes a lot of the loudness away, some people complained about accuracy but SERIOUSLY, all my shots were about 3 to 1 inch apart from each other when i really tried. the air it uses is about average, doesnt kill air fast but its not a dream either, so you might want a 20 ounce for more play but i prefer a 12 ounce for the weight and comfort. on of my favorite things about its air usage is all the shots are consistent on accurracy and distance (and this is with cheap monster balls). Some people might look for more in a gun especially in speedball (which sucks) but its better than anything ive ever handled under 100 bucks. if your a begginer or an intermediate player looking for something long term and durable, buy this.
P.S. sorry if speedball sucks but i dont get what i need from it, wheres the hiding, the surprise, the sneaking, flanking, and dodging. maybe its just me but i hate it when the enemy knows your there and its a lame sluggfest of who shoots the most bps. wheres the tactical advantage?)
Buy it, read review, its short, and everythings there.
Marker is now set up to run LP (low pressure). I'm working on a break-beam eye installation to eliminate chops.
Any Spyder upgrade should fit, so pick your flavor and rock out.
Definitely upgrade the trigger, bolt, and barrel.
An agitated hopper is a must if you use an electronic trigger frame
easy to upgrade
Gun needs tweaking out of the box
I got a nice deal on a package that I couldn't pass up. For the Icon Z, 16oz tank, JT Axiom thermal goggles, squeegee, barrel condom, hopper, Extreme Rage tank cover, Redz 2-pod carrier, and a 200rd load of paint was $170. I'm just getting back into the sport and I couldn't afford another Autococker, but it seemed like a decent deal for what it is.
Anyway, the first time out here's what I've noticed.
First, the safety would not engage properly. No big deal, I just put a thin - roughly 1mm thick - washer between the trigger and the frame, problem solved. This will also take some of the play out of the trigger that some had complained about.
Second issue was velocity. In the chrono booth I couldn't stay below 285 (field speed limit) to save my life and even with the adjuster backed all the way out I could still trip the chrono at 360-380 for some reason. It took some tweaking and I ended up having to cut the spring - not a good idea.
Third issue was ball breaks. Lots of them. Again, I did some tweaking, but it's still not right and I need to do some research and figure this one out.
On the upside, the gun is a great platform for someone who likes tweaking things. As this gun is mechanically identical to a Spyder Xtra, there is no shortage of parts to make this one evil little marker. The first upgrades I'd recommend are a good hopper to keep the paint feeding properly, a good barrel, and a decent trigger upgrade. A feed neck is a necessity if you want the hopper to sit low to the marker.
In the past couple weeks I've pretty much torn this gun completely to it's bare parts and gone on an all out endeavor to make this gun operate more to my liking. The upgrades I added in this review are what I would recommend for anyone who wants a Spyder (or Spyder clone as the case may be) that can hang with the big dogs. I've gotten this gun to run LP, fire enough cycles/second that I can't walk the trigger fast enough to choke the feed, increased shots per tank, it's just a better gun.
I'd say buy it if you like to tinker with things and plan on upgrading. I am in no way disappointed with my purchase. Out of the box there are issues to address but nothing major and the issues at hand only give reason to do the upgrades most will do anyway. I'm giving it a 6 out of the box because it's not perfect - but it could be. With the right parts this thing could easily hang with the big dogs of the industry.
Updated score: 9, and that's only because it's not perfect just yet.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, July 25th, 2006 at 6:58 pm PST
metal feed neck, electro hopper, barrell, spring kit
Looks, decent stock barrell, good balance, well proportioned
Long stock trigger pull, need a vert elbow to put on hopper
for the price u can't go wrong with this gun, this gun looks really snazzy! u can get up some decent rates of fire with it, came with a 12" barrell alot of cheaper blowbacks only come with 10" barrells, nice short drop forward allows u to use ur CO2 tank as a stock,
only problem I have ever had with this gun is the vert feed. it comes with washers on the 2 screws holding it on. with the washers on the screws don't go down far enough to adequately hold it on when it is laden with a hopper. this caused my hopper to fall off my gun during one game when I was hiding from 2 players, I reached to pick up the hopper and got shot by one player I jumped back and got shot by the other. the morale of the story is take the washers off the vert feed screws it takes 10 seconds and will save u big time.
one slight inconvienince with this gun is that if u fire quickly using CO2 the whole gun gets really cold so wear gloves and u will be fine
Best gun for the money just take the washers off the feed neck screws and wear gloves
-1 for feed neck problems and having to wear gloves
I got this gun for a starter gun and it hasnt broke down yet or anything but i would recommend a new barrel and a electronic hopper i was playing with my friends and i had him he popped out from the corner and didnt even see me but then i started dry fireing so i got shot 3 times in the chest. it sucked
This is a good starting gun and anyone that is just starting should get for there first gun instead of a cheap Brass Eagle
32 degree Icon E w/ viewloader revvy and crossfire HPA 3000 psi tank/ custom painted barrel and beaver tail
Longer barrel, whisper is a good upgreade.
Better trigger, something steel for less cheap trigger feel
DYE gel grips
Quick trigger, light, accurate, affordable, good starter gun
Barrel hop because of weight, cheap feel in trigger, only a knockoff brand
I have been only playing paintball for about two weeks. I am totally in to paintballing. The Icon E is a geat gun for begineer both because of the price and the quality of the gun. I have shot my buddy's Spyder electra and its exactly the same thing. The gun rarely jams and never breaks paint. It is real light and easy to run with and its just as deadly as some of the higher quality guns. Whoever says that 32 degrees doesn't make a good affordable electic trigger gun is full of sh*t. I have taken out plenty of players with better guns, its all about seeing the field open up and picking your lines, not how much you spent on your bright yellow jersey. PLAY HARD--THRUST
Great entry level gun. I rate it as a 9out of 10 of entry level guns. Still tippman and Dragon are better for only a couple bucks more.
Icon Z, 12 oz co2, 200 round hopper, see through elbow, and a coustom teardrop barrel.
Bolt scratches (dip in motor oil) Barrel not very good
Good gun make sure you check screws after every game. Un cocks its self every once and a wile. I have shot around 1,000 balls I have only broken 1. Put rain-x in your barrel. Great gun I love it. When the sun hits the gun it glares but it does not bother me.
Great gun get it if you are thinking about getting it go on you will love it.
Java feed neck
Smart Parts tear drop barrel
Psychoballistics Bullet drop forward
Kapp gas thru grip
Very accurate gun with minimal upgrades needed.
Trigger is loose
I got this gun last year for Christmas. Right out this gun looked great. I pulled it out and it was all ready to use. I took it to my backyard and fired off a few rounds and it was awesome. I knew right away though that I needed to get an electric hopper. Very accurate and quiet.
good marker for money
drop forward comes loose
barrel upgrade needed
the Icon-Z beats most of the competition around this price range e.g. Spyder Victor & Spyder Victor II. it has a sleek areodymic look and performs great in cold conditions. Pretty good marker for beginner / intermediate & you won't be disappointed. only downfalls are parts coming loose & barrel, other than this a good buy!
Looks like a beeast
Easy to use and clean
Very Cheap and Reliable
Hasnt chop more than 3 out of 2000 balls
If you maintenace it regualrly, it will shoot like a dream
This gun is awesome, i bought it in a package off ebay for under 180, it is amazing, i play in the bush alot and it never chops balls, it is so silent and its intimating, its a beast and half. will mope ne other gun, Brass Eagles stand no chance against this gun!!!
Great Gun, Cheap, Reliable, a must have for beginner to intermediate!