Centerflag 88/4500 HP Tank, Straight ASA, VL Magazine (modded)
CAR Stock, VL Magazine, Straight ASA
This is one awesome gun. But it definitely limits what roles you can play on the field. For over ten years I've been playing sniper or pistol-packer. This gun does not allow for stealthy operations. It is LOUD, and you will be known on the field after the first time you open up. I got lots of extra looks and became a target on the field. I've only played with it once and my accuracy was very poor. I found some of my balls were dimpled still in the case, so I think that may have been paint rather than the gun. Especially since most everyone else raves over the accuracy of this gun. I modded the VL magazine to accept balls from the front loader also. About halfway through the day I found a few bent pins in my magazine. I think they bent from balls jamming in magazine rather than being mis-indexed...this is because I never dropped the clip all day long until then, so how can it become un-indexed? My own fault for trying to modify the gun from stock. It was nice having almost 300 balls on gun, but not worth busting a mag for. The base color of the gun was great for blending in to foliage, which I didn't expect. It is a bit large if you like to low-crawl across fields.
Overall, I wouldn't want any other gun for a full size marker in the modern arena. After living on a pump "rifle" for ten years, this was a great second gun. I recommend it to everyone, but don't be disillusioned on what this gun is.
Tracer (close relative to AT markers), 2k2 autococker, Spyder (TL Plus and classic), and automag
AT-85 with Hopper adapter, Modified trigger, Bottom line, 12v Revvi, and 68 ci 3000psi Bulldog II tank
Spyder Classic with Die Excel Barrel, cyclone bolt, and crappy 9oz BE CO2
Bottom line or remote
Well the best thing I can think of is the look on peoples faces when they see it for the first time. Trust me, every one will be asking what it is, were you got it, and how much it was.
Accuracy is one of the strong points of this marker. I can line up an old street light in the sites an hit it almost every time.
Mantaining this marker in not as bad as you might think. Other then oiling it you only have to clean it every 5,000 rounds or once a month. I must say, that is better then my spyder.
This marker can fire fast in both semmi and full auto with out any chance of chopping a ball. The one time I did have a ball brake in it was becouse of the paint (the 'good' BE crap) and it still worked well as a long range shotgun.
Full auto is nice though most fealds say you cant use it. It 2 - 3 ound burst you might get away with it.
Stock, this marker is ready to go and hold it's own with high end electroes and autocockers.
LOUD! When you dry fire, it sounds like a M-16! Though this is not always a bad thing.... But still every one knows were you are.
Imput presure must stay over 700 PSI to prevent damage. This is the worst thing about this marker.
An electro marker has a better trigger then this one, some one that knows what they are doing can probably make it close though.
You can't do all the cool stuf to these markers like most. They are made out of high impact plastic.
The grip is not the best out there. A .45 would be a lot better.
It's a bit long.
Teck suport can be a little slow.
New, they are a bit pricy. But right now ATS is selling re-furbished AT seares markers for $450. I like mine a lot and think it was a good buy. I think this marker deservers a 9.5 but not quite a 10. But sence 9.5 rounds to 10 and even crappy BE markers sometimes get 10's Im going to give it one.
Nothing except for the hopper adaptor clip & remote or/and bottom line.
Accurate - Very! even with dimpled paint!!
Distance - holy crap, this gun shoots far!
Noise - 1 loud MF...I love loud guns... Mine received the name "The Cannon"
Ballbreaks - rarely (3000 rounds, 1 ball break - easy fix, lightly coat the inside of the magazine with rifle oil inside)
Weight - very light
Feedrate - Fast, I unloaded a magazine in alike 2 seconds - even semi is fast!
If you bend a few pins, just bend them back into place with your thumb!
Maintenance isn't that hard - Just keep that manual near you... You don't really touch much on there.
And people won't stop asking questions about it!
Expensive, easy to break, front loader kinda sucks (port needs to be open more-I think the newer version has that done already, not sure)
Most fields won't let you play in full auto (luckly there is a screw hole to turn off full auto) But you don't really need it! :)
I wouldn't reccomend this gun for the beginner. But if you take apart guns all the time and you want something fun, get this one!
ATS AT-85 with gas through stock, 23 and 16 inch barrels, bipod, and red dot sight
GO HPA!!!! stay away from CO2
*Loud - some consider this bad, but it's really intimating
*Stock parts are top notch
*No expensive upgrades necessary
*Inexpensive for what you get
*Competent, Knowledgeable tech support (not some lackey)
*Hopper less design
*Conversation piece on the field (you will get tired of people asking about it)
*Doesn't break paint
*Best used with Mid - Front players
*Tech support kinda slow
*Must keep it lubricated
*Good luck finding parts near by
*Clips are a little flimsy and you'll bend some pins at first
Best purchase I ever made. With my spyder I was hitting about 3-6 people a day on the rec field I play at. With my 85, I hit on average about 14, and I still use the same amount of paint. The Tippmann A-5 comes in close in comparison to this, but you need a lot of upgrades to get it to even close. If you've been reading reviews and thinking about getting it, stop reading and buy the damn thing, you'll be glad you did.
NOTE: This is a gun for the mechanically inclined. It's like a swiss watch NO JOKE!
a red dot sight and TS1300v magazine with a feed tube on the side.
Good accuracy: Very close to my TIPPMANN Flatline
Good distant: Not as far as the TIPPMANN Flatline, well it is close combat gun
Good ROF: Much better than TIPPMANN Flatline
Never jam: I used some cheap paints (ZAP pro) for testing; it still worked like a champ in full auto. The barrel looked like new after firing 800 round of ZAP pro.
Finally, it is light and compact, especially with a remote coil and a red dot sight, you can get anyone on your way.
Not a single thing.
It is a well engineered maker with a unique design. It cost a little bit more than the normal maker, but with the good performance and the full automatic, it is totally worth every single penny. It is a high maintenance marker, but with the instruction and the video tape provided by the manufactory, it wonít be a problem at all. Well, it makes you will feel much closer to your marker.
I'm currently runnig it stock with a 68ci 4500psi Crossfire Nitro tank, Ricochet 2K Electronic Hopper with the hopper clip adapter. In the future it will be remote with an M4 stock.
None . Just get a nice size nitro tank for a nice long enjoyable game, without having to refill every other game. This tank can lasts over 1200 with no problem. I have a regulator but don't even use it.
Good? Its GREEEAT!!! The Newer model built are AWESOME.. They have a couple important upgraded features on the Unisizer which allows you to shoot pretty much any size ball WITH NO PROBLEMS!!! The accuracy is spectacular! you won't believe it until you shot it. Haven't broken a ball yet , I put that on my ATS AT85. I use only RPS paintballs , I love the "Marballizer" and "Big Ball"
Bad? This gun is sick. The only bad thing is probably using the forward loader clip, since it only carries 60 -65 balls. To fix that just get a hopper clip and problem solved. The other problem would be me giving away all this good info and people going and getting one of these guns and using them against me. J/K
This gun is an all out CHAMP! Straight outta the box. No barrel , or trigger changes needed. It is the tightest looking thing out in most PB fields 908%% of the time. I get hit up by at least 8- 10 people every time ask me WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING! That sh*t is sweet. One guy actually asked me on the field is that a paintball gun? I look at weird , telling him what else do think it would be on a paintball field. About being loud, that's bull , to me at least. Maybe the upgrades fixed that problem , I never had the old version, but other than that it sounds beautiful , gives the team a little more balls when your on their side, lets not worry about the opponent. I just lube it after ever game, takes me 15 minutes. I love this gun and do recommend it to others, who don't mind watchin the video 3 times like me and takin the gun apart to lube ever so often. I wish I could give it a higher rating. Get one and find out for yourself. You'll thank me later.
Good Luck Paint Ballin!
hopper clip if you use alot of paint and are a front line player.
The AT-85 is extremely accuarte which is it's best asset. the sight is great it is like a real gun. It's loud which is good and bad. Clip feed makes sure you never break a ball. Looks great, reloads fast, it's semi ROF is equal to that of a stock cocker, extremely light, if you keep it maintained properly you will love this badboy.
The clip is easy to mess up but is easy to fix. You will bend pins and maybe nock off the chain and you will have to fix sometimes and it is kind of long even with a 47 ci tank.
Great gun, performance like a cocker, orignality, shoots great out of the box. Don't listen to the people who say it breaks alot if it breaks its cause of you not knowing what you are doing not the gun. Don't run Co2. Keep it well maintained and enjoy!
I have used a mini-mag, and a shocker s/f. I love the mag for it's durability, you can play and throw in the closet and come back two months later and wow. It shoots fine. Shocker is very accurate but expensive. Plus you go through a lot of paint.
Currently using a AT85 on a remote with the M4 stock. Using a 47ci nitro tank.
Run Nitro it is a must for this gun!
This gun rocks. Hands down the only gun that can shoot this good out of box is ...??? There are no other guns that shoot this good out of box for the money. I paid 500 for the gun and another 150 for the remote and nitro. That's cheap compared to my old setups. Gun has a very low profile. I got hit less after i got this gun. That's a fact.
You can only carry 85 rounds at a time. But if you buy the extra holders you can reload for action quickly. (the spare foward mags only cost about $12. cheap!)
Hands down a great gun. If you are a rec player who wants the longest shooting gun for a fair price this is it. Plus because of the guns low profile others can't hit you hopper, they must get a clean shot or google you. But if they are about to google you then you deserve to be out. hehe
This is a great gun, first of all it is the best out of the box performance I've seen, next the flip swith for semi to full auto is really awesome, next the stock barrel on the gun is great, the gun also has a low profile without you haveing to spend $200 on a warp feed, and finally it has the best instruction manual I know of, it came with a movie explaining basic maintance and how to strip the gun totally apart next the book, which was about 50 pages long showed you every detail of the gun so when you strip it you know what to put were.
There are only three things I see wrong with the gun, first there is that there really arent alot of upgrades for the gun but if you ask me I dont think you need anymore upgrades then what they have, next there is the problem of useing a the gun with the forward loader if you plan on shooting more than 10 shots you have to tilt the gun upward but this problem can be easily solved just by buying the clip that works with a hopper, and I see a problem with how loud the gun is if you ever heard how loud a rental gun is at a field thats how loud this one is. I was reading the other reviews and I saw someone who complained that because he didnt maintance his gun before 1500 ball his gun broke well he should know that all guns should be maintanced before and after ever use, even in that means just oiling the gun. I also read people say not to get the gun for CO2, and I agree with them because as with ever high end marker you dont want to use CO2 anyway, it damages all guns over time no matter which one it is.
I would say that this is the best gun out there for it's price with it's only competition being a tippmann model 98. this gun can become your best friend, with about 200 in upgrades you can have everone at the field jealous of your tricked out AT85. If you got the money buy it, in my opnion it is the best gun out there, even better than a angel.
The first and last word in scenario/milsim paintball. Nothing is nearly as good. This gun is select fire via the flip of a switch. It holds 65 round forward loaders and 25 round clips. That means you can have 85 rounds on the gun at one time and carry 65 round clips with you. The hopper clip allows you to put a hopper on it but it is not neccesary except it extreme conditions. This gun is the most accurate paintball gun available period. I own two Autocockers, a Shocker a Tippmann 98/flatline, several others and have shot or played games with just about every other gun on the market, including Angels. None of them can compete. It is true that paint is the primary factor in determining accuracy and that no paintball gun will be accurate without very good paint, but this gun is as accurate as can be with minimal defference to paint. You can literally place ball upon ball right on top of one another from 20 yards. It's remarkable. The sound is great, the weight is amazing, it is lighter than any other gun on the market, and the sights are incredibly accurate. The service is also very good. Not the speediest but not bad. And they are very reasonable. I cannot say enough good things about this gun. It is worth EVERY PENNY.
well I didn't mean to go on so long about the good aspects luckily there isn't much that's bad. This is not a gun for the tinkerer. It is a very complex system that is reliable once set up and maintained well. Be advised, the slightest bit of new gun curiosity can change your experience from heaven to hell. There is nothing more frustrating than getting goo from this gun after you've seen what it's capable of. It's usually set up correctly from the factory just READ THE DIRECTIONS oil often and enjoy. If you open it just remember I told you so.
If you like to be in the woods, this is the gun for you. Sniper, stalker, kamakazi, whatever this gun is great. I can't wait to see what they ome up with next.