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Kingman Spyder MR2 Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
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Average Rating: |
8.6 / 10 |
Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$250 |
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The first military style, electronic paintball marker released by Kingman.
Features removable stock, scope mount and double trigger.
Built to withstand the toughest scenario play.
Comes with anti chop bolt, a rechargeable 9.6v battery and a range of firing modes. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 10 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Tippmann 98 Custom
Viewloader Triad |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder Mr2
-evlution ll hopper
-16 in. J&J ceramic barrel
-Bob Long Timmy Detents
-Coiled Remote w/ Slide Check |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
-fasthopper cabable of at least 18 bps
-longer barrel for better accuracy (optional) |
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| Strengths: |
Look, speed, reliability, accuracy. |
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| Weaknesses: |
The spring may need to be broken in (not a big deal). |
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| Review: |
I bought this gun new for $150. When I received it I was suprised at how good this gun actually looks. It definitely exceeded my expectations. The first thing I knew that I had to get for this gun was a new hopper, which wasn't a problem because you can get an egg II for $50 at walmart. I set up some pop cans in my backyard and started shooting them. I was suprised at how accurate the stock barrel was. The 3 round burst was cool. They would hit every time within 4 in. Automatic is just straight up sweet. It fires fast! When I went out the next day to play with some friends. I was showing them automatic and they didn't want to play with me, so I just ended up using 3 shot burst. I noticed that every once in a while, the balls would chop and come up the feedneck. I ordered some Bob Long Timmy Ball Detents the next day online ($1.99 for 3). That helped a lot. I also learned that the spring needs to be worn in. That also increased its performance as well. I used some old cheap Monster balls and they worked fine. No chops. This is a good gun. |
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| Conclusion: |
If you are a woodsball player and are looking for a fast, durable, and good-looking gun than this gun is for you. You may have to break the spring in, but all in all this gun is definitely worth it. |
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Monday, May 22nd, 2006 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 8 of 8 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 months |
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Similar Products Used: |
Some other spyders I tried out. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR2, VL Revy (soon to be HaloB w/z-board and ripdrive).
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Stiffer ball detents
Fast hopper capable of 20+ bps
Stronger elbow
Maby a new barrel. |
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| Strengths: |
Built like a tank
Shoots very fast
Stock barrle isnt bad
fairly accurate
Looks awsome
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| Weaknesses: |
On the heavier side
weak ball detent.
Needs fast hopper
A pain to disasembe. |
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| Review: |
Im fairly new to paintball, so take all this with a grain of salt.
This gun is a very decent gun once you get all the kinks out of it. Many people have had problems with the ball detent being to weak and this double feeding. I didn't have this problem because the first time I played with it I was using a revy, and thus couldn't shoot fast. I will be selling my revy to a friend and purchasing a HaloB to enable this guns full abilities in terms of speed.
I did have a few problems with this gun on the field though. The gun jammed on me a few times, and I had to recock it several times (probably due to the slow revy). The biggest problem I had was an O-ring on the valve freezing. I had to take the gun apart and a few of the guys there were surprised at how much of a pain in the ass it is to take apart. This think has so many pieces to it its incredibly annoying. Though once you get used to tearing it down and building it back up it isn't as bad. Other than the average breaking in problems I had no other issues. THe Barrel on the gun is pretty decent, but I would recommend buying a J&J Ceramic barrel. Many people also complain about the shroud keeping the gun from using many different barrel types. All I have to say is take the shroud off. You don't need it on. It just makes the gun look cooler.
Edit: I recently found out that the earlier mr2s came with a weak orange ball detent, but later versions come with a black one. The back one is strong enough. CHeck your detent, if its orange replace it emmediatly. |
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| Conclusion: |
A great gun once you get it up and running. Once you have a fast hopper, and a better ball detent installed this gun is well worth more than the 250 bucks it costs. Truly the toughest spider yet. Great for both speedball and woodsball. Initially I would have given this gun a 7, but after I broke it in I think for the price its worth a 10. But I have to deduct a point for the initial problems it comes with. So 9/10. |
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| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Wednesday, June 7th, 2006 at 2:04 pm PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 8 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
mr1 mr3 |
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| Marker Setup: |
mr2 fasta 18v and remote with 20 oz and 4+1 pack |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
barrel, fast hopper |
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| Strengths: |
Fast and acs works good
Good barrel for stock
Nice trigger
Nice look |
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| Weaknesses: |
When it chops you have to take your bolt out and clean it.
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| Review: |
ive used this gun about 3 times since i have recieved it and through all the times i have played i have not had a bad day paintballing. I use c02 and at high rates of fire and my gun doesnt freeze up. When i take this to the field were i play it everyone is intimidated by the mr2s looks. |
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| Conclusion: |
Buy this product you cant go wrong. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 7 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 months |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder Pilot
Tippman 98 Custom
VL Triton 2 |
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| Marker Setup: |
MR2
Halo B
J&J 14" Ceramic Barrel |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Fast Hopper |
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| Strengths: |
High ROF
All Metal Construction
Durable
Stock included
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| Weaknesses: |
Heavy
Needs break in
Shroud
Feed neck is cheap |
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| Review: |
After having read all the reviews twice over I decided I would throw in my two cents. I am writing this as an MR2 owner trying to give others a realistic idea of the pros and cons of this marker.
First this is a heavy marker because it is all metal (except for a hard plastic that makes up the forward grip). Thus to like this gun you are going to have to be willing to carry a heavy gun. I like heavy guns so it is fine with me plus I like the durability factor associated with a metal body.
Next you MUST have a high end hopper. Keep that in mind with the price tag. You have to buy the gun and then you have to buy the hopper. I use a Halo B, but tried first with a gravity feed. Gravity feeds will chop paint, ACS or not.
The trigger wobbles from side to side a little but it is not that bad. Adjust the trigger in tight if you like. The trigger is really adjustable which I like.
I hate the square grip of Spyders. Maybe if your 6'4" and have hands like Shaq they would be comfortable, but being under 6' I find them too square and not comfortable. But this goes for all Spyders.
This gun is side fed to the right, which makes it a little hard to site from the right hand side of the gun. Not horrible, just know that the feed is the right which means if you are going to shoot on the left hand side of a bunker it will be a little more difficult.
The stock top bar should be sunken down a bit as you cannot site down the barrel with a mask on (or you have to get a sight that is a little bit high on the gun.
There is no plug made for the back where the stock goes and this opens the bolt up to dirt and paint if you take the stock off. I handled this with some black mesh webbing placing it under the two side covers and clamping it down. This works just fine.
With my gun I chopped the first case of paint I ran through it. I took it back to the shop after several cleanings and had them put a stiff ACS spring in. This worked just great. No longer chopping paint.
The ball detent on mine is the correct one (black) but still allows an occaisional double feed. Get a timmy in there and you won't have this problem, or just a harder spyder detent.
If you use c02 expect wild variances in velocity +/- 50 fps per shot.
Now that I have laid these factors on the table let me tell you the truth about a couple of things.
Weight - If you don't like take some of it off. The side panels are held on by a single screw on either side, remove them and the side panels. They are there to 'look cool' but don't affect anything. The sight rail comes off with two screws and again is not needed unless you are going to use a sight. Remove the front plastic grip and one screw and the shroud comes off. Now you are holding a much lighter gun! And it does not affect the shooting or anything. One of the big positives of this gun is that it is metal. But if you buy it and find out that the weight is too much strip it down a little bit. It's not a big deal.
Field stripping this is quick once you know what you need to take off and what you don't. Basicly, take the stock off, take the sight rail off, take the cocking mechanism off and remove the pin and you have open access to the bolt etc.
I have noticed alot of complaints regarding the shroud and getting barrels to fit. Taking the shroud off MAY help but there is still only a little clearance between the top tube and the bottom tube. Take it to the shop when you are looking for barrels and just make sure it fits the barrel before you buy.
I love the ROF on this gun. I just set on full auto and pull single shots when I want or hold it down when I need to lay down a ton. You can go through a ton of paint real quick. This is awesome for suppression fire.
The accuracy on this gun is decent, but it isn't an angel or ego. I am working on seeing if converting to HPA will help with fps spikes and accuracy. Maybe a c02 reg would also help this. I'll update as I find out.
Also this is a newer gun so finding upgrades is not the easiest thing in the world. |
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| Conclusion: |
All in all after you break the gun in (and if needed put in a stiffer ACS spring) it's awesome. Again it is not an ego, but it is good. You can lay down paint, pick 'em off, woodsball, speed ball etc. I would recommend this gun, but realize that once you buy it the spending isn't over. You still need the hopper, probably a pressure reg and a decent barrel. |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 6 months | 6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Tippmann 98, Tippmann A-5, and Spyder Imagine. All of these markers are pretty good, but I prefer the MR-2 over all of them. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR-2
CCM Feedneck
Trinity AK-47 Expansion Chamber
Apex barrel
Trinity Center On/Off with Rail - Black
Macro Line Air System
Spyder FASTA Hopper - 30 BPS
Red Laser Sight with Pressure switch
Pure Energy 20oz Tank
32 Degrees Coiled Remote |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Definitely a fast hopper. I recommend the Spyder FASTA hopper (30 BPS).
CCM Feedneck for Hopper durability and eliminates movement.
Apex Barrel to increase accuracy on your shots.
Trinity Ak-47 Expansion Chamber for better air consistency in cold and hot weather. |
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| Strengths: |
Very fast
Very durable
Very affordable
ACS bolt
Side feed for better aiming
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| Weaknesses: |
Barrel limitations because of shroud.
Requires a fast hopper to keep up with the marker. |
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| Review: |
The Spyder MR-2 is a wonderful marker. I use mine to play scenario and speedball. At 25 BPS this gun keeps up with all the markers out on the speedball field. Just make sure to adjust your trigger sensitivity (There is a screw in the trigger frame to do this).
I play a lot of scenario games and we allow full auto for this type of play. Everyone knows when its me shooting, but not very many will stay and trade shots with me anymore. This includes a Tippmann A-5 with an e-trigger, Smart parts ION, Tippmann 98 with a response trigger, Spyder Imagine, Spyder Electra, and Spyder Pilot. Many have tried and a lot get burned with this marker. I have even seen opponent's paintballs breaking against one of my many shots before it even gets to me. In the meantime, the other balls are still flying their way.
This gun is really fast and really consistant. With my set up, I have not broken any paintballs in my marker in over 5000 shots. As a stock MR-2 with a Spyder FASTA hopper (30 BPS), I broke 2 paintballs within 2500 shots. Still pretty consistant without my set up. This is really good considering I use Visible Impact and Bonus balls.
Some people have said that there is not many modifications that can be done to the Spyder MR2, but I disagree. I have set up my marker the way I like it and can still put quite a few more accessories on it (check out the pictures). The only problem is finding a good barrel to fit on it. They are out there you just have to look. I highly recommend the Apex barrel. |
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| Conclusion: |
I recommend this marker to anyone looking to strike fear into their opponent's eyes. You will see them run when they hear you comming. It is very affordable and very durable. Any style of player and exprience level will enjoy this marker. |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Saturday, April 28th, 2007 at 3:52 am PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 6 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 months |
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Similar Products Used: |
SP-8 |
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| Marker Setup: |
MR2, ricochet apache LED, Red dot sight |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
You need to get a very fast hopper like a halo b or empire b because without a fast hopper the gun Chops. The gun needs a new barrel, but it is not completely necesary. |
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| Strengths: |
Never chops (with a fast hopper), shoots accurately, and is very fast. |
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| Weaknesses: |
The gun is not compatible with many spyder barrels. |
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| Review: |
Basically this Gun is great for senario players, and even speedball players. The only thing I should say is that the gun should always be used with the stock because the lack of o rings on the Delrin bolt. The stock has o-rings on it which keep air from escaping out the back ou the gun, making shots more accurate. The gun is a little heavy, but with the stock, you won't mind the weight. The fact that the gun has teh mode switch on the back on the grip makes it easy for senario players. |
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| Conclusion: |
The MR2 is Cheap, great quality, and is a fun gun for paintball |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 6 of 15 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
A-5, Ion but heavyer and slower... |
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Ion
Halo B
Virue board
Roller trigger
Q-lock |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
a ricochet AK or better... |
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| Strengths: |
--Read review-- |
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| Weaknesses: |
--Read review-- |
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| Review: |
PROS
-Shoots fast
-Looks great
-built in stock
-very durable
-Takes HPA and CO2
-Comes with a battery and a charger
CONS
-My ball detent puked out after first game
-Its a little bit heavyer then most
-Can get hard to clean
-elbow isnt that good
-shroud stops barrels from fitting |
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all in all if u want an electric marker and u dont want the A-5 or 98 get this, u might like it....
Hope this review helps...
But then again the ion is like 50 bucks cheaper and much better... why not just get that? im selling my mr2 dont really like it.... |
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| 8 out of 10 | Last edited on Friday, May 12th, 2006 at 8:34 am PST |
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The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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Period of Product Use: |
| 2 years | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder pilot , spyder mr 1 - these guns are blowbacks like the mr 2 , this means you will see alot of ball breaks or chopping. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Invert mini
viewloader vlocity
68 4500 carbon fiber |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
Force feed hopper
high pressure air tank
new barrel or barrel set |
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| Strengths: |
Very stong gun
price
full auto |
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| Weaknesses: |
Blow back type gun ( more ball breaks )
heavy
very loud
bulky in size |
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| Review: |
right out of the box i noticed it was heavy. i took this gun to my nearest field and began shooting with it, right away i realized that this gun was loud, really loud. second with a normal hopper (not force feed) the balls do not make it to the chamber fast enough, this is one reason the gun will chop paint or miss fire, the third thing i noticed was the amount of frost that was building up on my barrel and the amount of snow cominig out of my barrel, this of course is becuase of the c02, this gun has preasure spikes all the time with c02, it will shoot 300 then 255 then 265, it is impossible to crono this gun on c02. the chance of balls chopping is also increased with c02. another thing i noticed was the accuracy (or lack of) with the stock barrel, a new barrel is highly recomended.
about 1 month later i added a new force feed loader and a new .688 barrel and high preasure air tank, the gun seemed to perform much better than before, the force feed loader keeps balls in the chamber ready to fire ( as long as the loader can load balls faster than the gun can shoot them) so there wasnt as many ball chops or miss fires. As soon as i added the air tank as opposed to the c02 , the gun was easier to crono, there wasnt as much spiking in the preasure, also there was no more snow coming out of my gun and the barrel wasnt getting frosty, i did find that this gun used a huge amount of air. when i put the new barrel on it helped to reduce the amount of niose a little bit, but the gun is still niosy, and my accuracy was highly improved. |
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Overall, i would only recomend this gun to somebody who wanted to play woodsball or scenario ball over speedball this gun is heavy, and loud and it does break paint even with the acs bolt, i would have to say if you want to consider yourself a serious paintball player do not get this gun, instead save the money and move out of the blowback and low end guns , and get a mid range or better gun. |
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Saturday, December 29th, 2007 |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder Pilot ACS
Tippman 98 Custom |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR2
J&J 16" Ceramic
ViewLoader Evolution 2
20 oz. CO2 |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
New Barrel
Faster Hopper Than Gravity Feed
Good Paint |
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| Strengths: |
Fast (25 bps), looks cool, sight rail |
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Barrel, chops with a slow hopper,some barrels don't fit because of the shroud. |
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This gun is AWSOME. It's incredibly fast w/ up to 25 bps, and the only problems that I have had is that the stock barrel is very inaccurate, and that if you shoot too fast with a gravity hopper, it will chop. Yesterday i was playing with friends in my woods and i fired maybe almost a full hopper off before i could hit a stationary person. The next game, i switched to my stock Pilot barrel, and that was way better. But since i also just bought the J&J Ceramic, i tried that out and it made my day. at the end of the day, i had the least paint on me of about 6 people, and i think some of my friends were jealous...
Maybe a little heavy if YOU ARE A PANSY. Seriously, it doesn't weigh more than 11 lbs loaded w/ a tank and hopper w/ paint.
Also while playing, my trigger frame became loose, but no biggie. simple fix, and i didn't even have to come inside to fix it. 2 minutes max.
PAINT:
DON'T USE RPS STINGER SERIES BECAUSE THEY BROKE FOR ME ABOUT EVERY 4th SHOT, AND I HAD TO LEAVE THE GAME.
HOPPER:
GRAVITY HOPPERS ARE USELESS FOR THIS GUN!!! I RECOMMEND THE VL FORCE W/ EYES OR AN EGG 2 or 3.
BARREL:
J&J CERAMIC 14"-16" IS PERFECT. (20" IS WAY TOO LONG)
SMART PARTS PROGRESSIVE DOES NOT FIT UNLESS YOU TAKE OFF THE SHROUD.
A FEW OTHER BARRELS FIT BUT THE J&J IS THE BEST OF THEM.
VELOCITY:
COULDN'T REALLY GET IT BELOW 300 FPS, SO I HAD TO CLIP THE INTERNAL SPRING A LITTLE, AND NOW MINIMUM IS AROUND 280 FPS.
CLEANING/MAINTENANCE:
TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO FOR OILING IN THE MANUAL, BUT IF YOU GET A BALL BROKEN IN/ON THE BOLT, PULL THE BOLT OUT THE BACK (A LITTLE WORK) AND CLEAN IT OFF AND OIL THE PARTS THAT CAME OUT.
STOCK:
I MODIFIED MINE SO THAT I COULD AIM WHILE WEARING A MASK (JUST CUT OFF THE TOP BAR OF IT)
Just a little info for everyone, i highly recommend this gun.
Edit 1/6/08:
I use this gun in my woods w/ my J&J 16" and my Egg 2, and it still chops quite a bit, so i might buy the Z-board upgrade so it can keep up. probably another factor is that I'm using cheap paint (ZAP DBX Practice paint) but if i get some better paint, it might be alright. Another problem could be that the ACS bolt isn't broken in yet (from what i read in another review) but maybe later it won't chop so much.
Overall a great Milsim gun with not too many upgrades (yet) but, i recommend this to anybody who plays woods ball, or maybe even speed ball if you want. 9 out of 10 only because of chopping. |
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I would recommend this gun for rec ballers and woods ballers, but if you play speedball, maybe not the best choice, but still a competitor. basically, get a new barrel and hopper, and don't use cheap paint, and this gun will perform like a mother. |
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| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Sunday, January 6th, 2008 at 5:43 pm PST |
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Period of Product Use: |
| 3 months | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar Products Used: |
Spyder MR1
Spyder Electra |
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| Marker Setup: |
Tippmann X7
Flatline barrel
Red Dot laser sight |
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Recommended Upgrades: |
HALO B HOPPER
Scope
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| Strengths: |
Accuracy
Weight
E-grip
Cocking Mechanism |
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| Weaknesses: |
Chops alot without electronic hopper
Feedneck
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| Review: |
I play alot of woodsball, and for that i need a nice, rugged marker, something that can take the dirt and mud i trudge through. And the MR2 delivered just that. Before i had this gun i had the MR1, which was an okay gun, but i needed the full auto to keep up with the demands from my fellow teammates. I saw the MR2 on badlands, and i had to get it. 3 weeks later i got a ring at my door and there was the guy with my box, i ripped it from him and took it out. At first glance its an amzing gun, then before i evn shot it i took it apart., evreything looks fine to me, i lik there new bolt for it the ACS bolt, i put evreything bak together and slapped on my 20 ounce CO2 tank and a regular, yes i know, regular hopper. It says up to twenty five balls per second on the package so i turned it on and let her rip. I loved the way it shot, it was very accurate, i flicked it from semi to 3 round burst, and then to full auto, but thats when my problems began. DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT GET THIS GUN WITHOUT AN ELECTRONIC HOPPER, the regular hopper cant meet the 25 balls per second demand or even the semi auto somtimes to,obviously becuase regular hoppers arent that great anymore, afterwards i had problems with the semi and three round burst with that to ,plus the feedneck wasnt on perfectly, it was on an angle,
So i fixed the feeneck and got me a halo b drive hopper, and evrythins bin peachy evr since. This gun is very light and when my friends tried it out, they were jealous cause after the game all of there heavy guns were hurtin there arms, sept me. i like there M16 style cocker, its enclosed so no dirt can get in, and its on top of the gun,so u pull it with two fingers and wolla. |
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Thats my review, I'd recommend to get this gun, if u can afford the Halo B hopper, but if u can't id recommend the MR1, there both from spyder so ur gettin your moneys worth. Overall nice gun , just watchout with the off feedneck, i rate this gun 8 out of 10, cause of the expensive hopper You have to buy with it and the offside feedneck. |
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