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Kingman Spyder MR2 Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
143 |
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Average Rating: |
8.6 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$250 |
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The first military style, electronic paintball marker released by Kingman.
Features removable stock, scope mount and double trigger.
Built to withstand the toughest scenario play.
Comes with anti chop bolt, a rechargeable 9.6v battery and a range of firing modes. |
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| The Kingman Spyder MR2 is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Electra, Tippman A5, |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder Mr2
Kingman FASTA 18v LCD
16" J&J Ceramic Barrel
Coiled Remote
Scope |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
FAST HOPPER should be the first thing you get for this marker
Longer barrel
Remote
Strong Detents |
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| Strengths: |
SUPER sturdy (read below)
very accurate out of the box
fast ROF
Good looks
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| Weaknesses: |
Sort of heavy, but not really
Weak stock detents |
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| Review: |
First off, I'm going to start with a stupid story on how the mr2 is extremely sturdy. One day I was helping my friend back out of his new driveway. I put my paintball bag down, with my gun on top. I told him to stop going backwards and come up a little. Well..he went too fast up and ran right over my paintball bag. The paintballs busted, the hopper was smashed but the gun..on top, did'nt have a scratch on it.
Also the ROF is great, and i love woods ball so this is almost the perfect gun for that.
You definitely want to get a stronger detent and a FAST hopper. When I first got this gun, I put a case through it and I chopped about 10 balls on auto and 5 on semi.
I would'nt recommend this gun for speed ball. It is pretty heavy for speed ball, but it can still be used. If you have any arm strenght, you should be fine
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| Conclusion: |
I choose 9 for this gun because of it's great accuracy out of the box, the ROF and looks. The 1 off was the detent. |
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Monday, March 13th, 2006 |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Electra
Spyder Imagine
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Spyder MR2 with Halo B and 4500 psi air system |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Metal feedneck elbow, remote and a new barrel |
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| Strengths: |
Durable, Looks and shoots great out of the box |
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| Weaknesses: |
Elbow is plastic and gun needs good paint |
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| Review: |
I wanted a gun that was fun and fast for woods play. This gun is it. Having used a spyder electra I knew that a faster hopper was going to be needed by this gun so I tried to anticipate and plan for any possible problems. What I discovered was on my first game and first attempted shot my gun starting chopping paint I broke down the gun and discovered that the left over paint I had used before on my electra was jamming in the feed of the MR2. I measure the feed diameter and discovered the paintball was too large. I changed to smaller diameter paint and the problem went away. I shot 2500 rounds with no further problems. The gun is a little on the heavy side but a remote should solve that. |
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| Conclusion: |
I would recommend this gun to anyone since I have not run into the issues others have noted. This gun is easy to clean and is built solid. You get excellent performance at a reasonable price. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, March 23rd, 2006 at 7:57 am PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 5 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
slower markers.....JT Excellerator, Spyder Imagine |
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| Marker Setup: |
MR2 with the stronger detent. Vlocity loader. Otherwise stock cuz this marker is amazing right out of the box. |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
MUST have a fast loader. I have the Vlocity and it keeps up no problem. |
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| Strengths: |
Awesome out of the box with a fast loader. Barrel is pretty good for stock |
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| Weaknesses: |
None for the most part. |
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| Review: |
Way awesome marker. Chopped like crazy out of the box cuz it needed a faster hopper. It came with the "new and improved" detent so that wasn't an issue for me. It claims to fire up to 25 bps but I can't come close to doing that so I thought I'd just try my slower Viewloader which loads up to 13 bps. No good. Still chopped like crazy.
Threw on the VL Vlocity and set the force feed at 2. Not as much chopping. 5 wasn't quite good enough either. 6 did the trick. Never misses a shot. Never chops. And never has to be recocked. The three round burst hits their target 60 feet away within a few inches of each other. The full auto just keeps shooting ropes till the loaders empty.
Looks great and hits hard. Actually have some trouble dialing the pressure down to the 280 fps that is allowed around here. Can't really go lower than 300. I'll have to cut the spring a bit if I get caught. LOL
I know there are more expensive markers than this one, but you wouldn't be getting much more for all that extra money. Take the stock off and it's great for speedball. If you're into everything else there's a rail to attach sites to.
Couldn't buy a better marker for the money. But don't even bother taking a single shot until you have a fast loader if you don't want to be cleaning paint out of the marker and the loader. |
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| Conclusion: |
But it if it's in your price range and you don't want to have to upgrade EVERYthing. I'd give it a 13 if I could. |
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Period of
Product Use: |
| Less than a month | 5 of 7 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
SP8, A5 |
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| Strengths: |
Cost, Stock, ACS |
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| Weaknesses: |
None so far |
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| Review: |
I own an MR2. First I love the package it came in, very well packed. I enjoyed how the stock is an option, and how it comes with it. The way it functions is pretty neat. Yes it is a spyder, and it acts like a spyder. I have a Ric AK hopper for it, and it works fine. |
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| Conclusion: |
I'm not sure for the 25 BPS that they claim, but for the cost, I'm very impressed.
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Saturday, October 11th, 2008 |
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Period of
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| 2 years | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippman 98 Custom
Spyder MR1 |
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MR2 without Eyes
Viewloader Vlocity Hopper
JJ Edge Barrel Kit
68/3000 HPA Tank
Remote Line
BSA Red Dot
Palmer's Male Stabilizer
Custom Grips
No Stock
CCM Feedneck Adaptor
Alamo City Delrin Bolt
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Everything in my Marker Setup
You really need a good Force-fed hopper
Paintballs that aren't brittle
High Pressure Air
Weaker mainspring
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| Strengths: |
High Rate of Fire
Durable
Weaver Rails
Three Different Firing Modes
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| Weaknesses: |
It's a paint blender without the proper set up
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| Review: |
I've owned my MR2 for a little over 2 years and have shot tens of thousands of rounds through this marker. It wasn't untill I purchased my Vlocity Loader that I started to have a good experience.
I have installed many upgrades on this marker and am very proud of my current setup. With everything installed and with the right paint, I can usually nail my opponents with one to three shots at 30 yards.
The MR2 does not like brittle paint! It will work fine with co2, but is way more consistant with HPA.
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| Conclusion: |
It takes alot of money and upgrades to get this marker to work well. I've heard that the MR2 w/eyes is a much more reliable gun. After going through so many ups and downs with this marker, I can not recommend this gun to any of my friends. For the money that you would have to put into it to make it work well, you could purchase a super reliable Automag or a decent Electro marker with eyes. |
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Scias |
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Monday, March 10th, 2008 |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 months |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Victor, PMI Pirahna |
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Spyder MR2 w/ metal clamping feedneck, red dot scope, new detent, 9V Fasta Hopper |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New detents, metal clamping feedneck |
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| Strengths: |
Rate of fire
Spyder Ease of Maintenance
Looks
Weight |
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| Weaknesses: |
Detents
Weight
Not AS easy to break down as other spyders
Battery problems
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| Review: |
When a use a specific kind of product for the first time and it treats me well, I usually stay loyal to the brand name. This occured with Kingman's Spyder guns. I owned a Spyder Victor for my first gun. It was great and I never had a major problem, and it was very easy to break down and modify. That same quality I saw in the Victor I still see in the MR2.
I debated between the MR1 and MR2, but the ACS bolt and the forgrip on the MR2 sold me, even though I was leary about having to rely on batteries to be able to shoot my gun.
The first thing that attracted me to the gun were the looks. I play recreational woodsball, and everyone out there owns a Tippman. I wanted something different, but that still had that military style. The MR2 definitely has that.
BODY: The body is mostly metal, which gives it a good sturdy feeling. It also weighs quite a bit compared to other guns. Personally, I like heavy guns. It gives it that realistic feel. I listed that under a weakness as well because some people don't like their guns heavy. It also just looks really cool. I feel like I'm ready for some heavy firefights just holding it in the field, and having something somewhat unique is something I strive for. I like the Tippman A5 look, but I liked the MR2 looks better (except the crappy hard plastic grips on the handle, which you can buy better ones).
BARREL: It's a standard 14" barrel. Looks good with the gun and has pretty good accuracy. Personally, I think the gun actually looks better WITHOUT any barrel, but it's not much use to anyone like that. Might look good with a little CQC barrel.
RATE OF FIRE: It's fast. The three round burst and full auto are a novelty, they're just not practical in a firefight unless you have a very good hopper. Using them is like playing the random ball chop game. Semi auto is nice. The trigger is so light that you can let loose a crazy barrage of paint just flying at the enemy. Maybe it feels so fast because I only have experience with the victor, but still, when I let 10 balls loose, and my opponent only sends 5 at me in the same period, I feel pretty good.
EASE OF MAINTENANCE: While my friends spend forever it seems messing with their tippmans, I pull the pin out of my spyder and everything comes out. That and most everything is held together with a minimal amount of screws.
NOT AS EASY AS OTHER SPYDERS TO BREAK DOWN: The only thing about the MR2 is that, to remove the bolt etc. you have to remove the screw for the cocking lever, which is under the raised sight rail, so you have to remove the raised sight rail. THis does get annoying after a bit.
BALL DETENT: Yes it is true. The detents are very weak little nipple things that double feed like crazy. Getting some Bob Long Intimidator detents will fix the double feeding. Easy fix, $3. They are a very tight fit, I had to trim a little off the edge to get it to fit.
BATTERY PROBLEMS: The battery that came with my MR2 was bad. It held about 200 balls worth of charge and that's it. Took me forever to figure out what the problem was because I didn't expect it to be bad. I hate battery operated things. These batteries are about 15 bucks a piece for the spyder brand ones, which is absurd personally. They're supposed to last 5000 -10000 shots I think I read. So I modded (and at the same time voided my warranty) the gun to use a 9.6V RC Car battery, which holds about 6-7x the charge. Lasted me all day the other day, and it probably would have lasted the entire weekend had I played everyday.
ACS BOLT: It works. Not every time, but nothing's perfect. It's good, but you have to break it in. Just take it out and compress the spring a bunch, otherwise don't expect it to prevent chopping worth a flip.
RECOMMENDED UPGRADES: An all metal, clamping feedneck is expensive, but it's a good investment. Even though it held up, I wouldn't expect the plastic feedneck to keep going for extended periods. Definitely get new detents. An electronic hopper is essential for keeping up with it's true potential. A high end hopper is recommended for use with auto and 3 round burst modes. My 9V fasta keeps up well with my semi auto, and that's all I ask for.
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For recreational play, especially woodsball, I highly recommend this very stylish, functional gun. It's heavy, and loud, but it just feels right to me. Will, like any new gun, require a break in period, especially for the ACS bolt.
I give it a 9 because of it's minor flaws and the experience I had with the battery, even though it was an isolated incident. Would have been a 10 otherwise. |
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Period of
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| 6 months | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
A5 |
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SP Ion
Epiphany
Electra
MR2
VS1
VS2
VS3
Tippmann 98, A5, eXT, XT, XL
Halo B w Rip Drive w V35
Empire B2
Empire Reloader 2 w sound activated
some Cheap HPA tank 45/3000
Pure Energy co2 20z
New Boss Barrel
M16 Barrel and complete kit (A5)
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
make it look like Milsim |
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| Strengths: |
* High rate of fire
* Ergonomic Mil-Sim look & feel
* Versatile performance |
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| Weaknesses: |
Quite hard to find a barrel to fit. tourney legal or not? |
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| Review: |
Fast
yes its really fast, i have not yet having the chance to test out the ROF but 25bps seem achieveable
Firing mode
Few firing mode, but it still a good one for it price
Accurate
compare to 98 and better than A5 and SP8 for me
Light
very much than the bulky A5
Comfortable
yes it is, dont judge by it look. feel it
Intergrated Drop Forward
needless to say, look it yourself
Feed Neck
side neck, fit most of my e loader without any problem
No maintenance required
yes not much, one of the most reliable low end e-marker. but when it break inside your marker, it not an easy task to clean it up
No chops
out of 1 case 2000 round pb i tested, no chop at all. |
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i dont know about you all guys. but i have no regret getting this marker. eventhough it just for my collection (most of the time i used my Smart Parts's marker), but for people out there who op for budget marker nor beginner for woodsball, this is a good one for you.
GET IT.
I would give 10 because of it price < perfomance.
it really suite many paintballers budget |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Victor,Spyder mr1,Tippmann a5,spyder sonix and spyder Xtra |
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Spyder Mr2 with trinity spring kit and Turbo valve,coming soon: bt apex barrel and eggy 3 |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
trinity spring kit and Turbo valve,Electronic hoppers ones that can feed 20 bps or more,red dot scope ,barrel but not neccesary . |
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| Strengths: |
The acs bolt,black matte for stealth,its a powerful a fast shooting gun. |
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You have to keep it lubricated for best acs performance,loud and needs electronic hopper. |
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Well the "stock mr2" is crap,because when i first got it and started playing it chopped a lot of paintball and all of the other paintballs got wet with the paintball fill and couldnt use them so after every game i had to clean the barrel and the hopper but once i had some modification done to it , i played a game and it didnt break any balls, and that was with the gravity fed hopper.It needs good paintballs and a 20 bps or more electronic hopper.Another thing the ball detent is a crappy one it broke when i cleaned the gun. For optimance performance keep lubricating the bolt after you are done playing. ill asure once lubricated the acs bolt works! This gun at a distance of 90-120 feet its very acurrate(with stock barrel) but i figure it will be more acurrate with an apex or an j&j performance barrel. Also recommend to put eyes on the mr2 im putting them in the future but think about it the acs bolt with eyes, no balls will break. |
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This gun is a good gun for begginers and veterans. ohh and when you get the gun make sure the ball detent is black if not change because the orange one is crap,also i recommend the eggy 3,halo and fasta hoppers for this gun.(Remember this is my opinion,so please do not leave any bad comments ,if you have another opinion fine its your opinion) Anyway i give it a nine because nothings perfect) |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Mechanical Markers:
Spyder Rodeo, PMI Pirhanna, Kingman MR1, Tippman 98 Custom
Electronic Markers:
Smart Parts Ion
All decent guns, but only the Ion can be equally compared with the MR2 |
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KIngman MR2, Halo TSA Backman (smoke), J&J Ceramic 14" barrel, 20 Oz. Co2 |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Definetly a fast hoppper like an Egg II or III, or a Halo B. And the 14" J&J barrel is one of the best for the gun, and at a reasonable price. |
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| Strengths: |
Sturdy
Fast
Reliable
Easy operatation/clean
Inexpensive
Can be compared with much higher priced markers |
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Stock ball detent
Stock Barrel
Slightly heavy (but I prefer it that way) |
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I just bought this on my 18 birthday, and i love it. It was only $229.00 on ebay, and it came as a package with a 20 Oz. Co2, Squegee, MR2 marker, Halo Backman LED (smoke), oil, and 4 pods with a pack for them. And plus, the guy who sold them got the whole package to me in just two days, and I ordered it on a Sunday when UPS wasn't even working.
But anyway the gun is amazing. I can get about 14 to 15 bps out of it, only because I have a Halo Backman, which can only feed 15 bps max. So because of this I have chopped a few balls, but it was not because of the gun malfunctioning. Some of the strengths were that it has the capability to achieve 25 bps, which is crazy fast. And I love it so far because it is entirely made of metal (aluminum), and though some people thinks that its heavy, it's not bad at all. If you think about it, the lightest guns on the market may only be a few Oz. lighter, or a pound at the most. That doesn't really make a difference. I'd rather have a sturdy gun, that doesn't feel like it's about to break in half. And the gun also was very easy to use because of the switch on the back of the handle. Unlike some other electronic guns that I have used, there are no dipswitches inside the handle, and you don't have to figure out what color light means what, or how many flashes means something. Kingman did a very good job with it and laid it out as easy as possible.
But there were also a few things that I didn't care for. Like the stock ball detent, because I think that is why I chopped a few balls. The stock barrel was also disapointing because it worked decently until I broke a ball; because then the paint balls were flying out of the barrel every which way. But then I fixed it by simply removing the barrel and squegeeing it clean.
I also wanted to point out that the stock trigger is pretty good aswell. I was incredibly pleased with it, and it was easy enough to walk the trigger right out of the box. And I like the fact that Spyder included the Stock with the gun, for those of us who prefer to play woodsball. I really would have been mad if they made you purchase the Stock separately.
Overall I am very pleased with the gun, and the only drawbacks were minor; plus they were expected. For instance, the stock barrel on any gun is only OK at best. But basically I am very happy with my purchase and I would reccomend the MR2 to any player from begginner to amateur to even professional. Because even though the gun may not compete with Timmy's and Bob Long's, it is still a capable weapon. And soon enough there should be plenty of upgrades to further your skill. Buy this gun! I promise that you won't be dissapointed. |
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The gun speaks for itself. If your interested in a Mil-Sim marker, it's one of the best out there. And if you really don't like it, Kingman has a one year warranty to go with it. So don't worry.
I am giving the Kingman Spyder MR2 a rating of 9 out of 10 because of a few minor flaws, and because nothing is perfect. There is always room for improvement.
Hope to see some of you out on the Paintball Fields someday, good luck. Your going to need it. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 4 of 11 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Rodeo, Spyder Pilot ACS, Spyder compact, and lots of others |
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Currently I use a Smartparts ION with aftermarket Bolt, Dropforward, and aftermarket Circuit board. |
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| Strengths: |
Heavy duty, No external moving parts. |
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Side feed problem, Ball detents no good. |
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It's funny because I was sitting right where you were when I was thinking about buying the MR2, but I think you should hear some things first that you won't find elsewhere.
I purchased the Marker from an online site. Got it in 4 days (not bad). I opened it up and was very impressed with it's looks. I must say it really does look cool. So I put the buttstock in (you have to use an allen screw which in turn scrapes the buttstock) and I found out quickly that,though functional, it was not comfortable and I could not see myself using it on the field. Thats ok because it is not necessary to use the marker. I took it to the field that weekend using the halo B hopper, CO2 and Compressed air. I used Heat and Diablo paint. Well things were good for about 8 shots, then a ball broke. I cleaned it out and fired about 20 more rounds, all on semi, and broke another. I cleaned it out and thought I would test the hopper out and turned it to full auto. That was good for about 2 seconds and paint started shooting out everywhere. At that point I knew there was a problem. So I went home and did a thorough cleaning and inspected all aspects of the marker. Everything checked ok, so I went online and checked some blogs and found out that the ball detents were faulty. That would explain the barrel breaks. So I called kingman (several times) and was assured that I had the right ones. So I looked to aftermarket. Let me first say that this gun was not designed to be upgraded. The aftermarket barrels I had would not fit into the shroud and if you took the shroud off you had to take grip off too and now it does'nt look to "cool". You can't upgrade the Bolt because the MR2 uses a 2nd generation bolt that nobody makes an aftermarket for yet. So you can't really upgrade it without sacrificing looks. So I wanted to return the marker. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOUR STORES POLICY BEFORE BUYING THIS GUN. I had more problems then I can list with returning this marker and had no help from kingman either. Please think ahead before buying this marker. Maybe my particular marker was defective but doubt it after looking further into it. |
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Overall I do NOT recommend this product for anyone who wants to upgrade or aspires to be pro. I do however believe this marker is okay for REC BALL ONLY. Use high quality paint and a high speed hopper. If you have any problems contact kingman tech support. It is important for you to also choose a store with a decent reputation so they can help you with any problems you have. |
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| 7 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, June 15th, 2006 at 5:41 pm PST |
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