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Kingman Spyder MR1 Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
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Average Rating: |
8.7 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$90 |
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| The MR1 will take a beating and keep on firing! The slide out pull pin, field strippable bolt, and full-length stock (optional) make the MR1 an easily operated and highly accurate scenario marker with military resilience and stability. This semi-auto marker won't rust even when you're trekking through the wettest terrain, and you?ll never need to worry about batteries because there aren?t any electronic parts! |
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| The Kingman Spyder MR1 is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
6 months |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Spyder Pilot.
Tippmann 98. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR-1.
Gravity fed hopper.
20 oz CO2.
Anti-Siphon Smart Valve.
Smart Parts Progressive Barrel. |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Barrel.
Anti-Siphon Smart Valve (for co2 users).
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| Strengths: |
Looks.
Weight.
Accuracy.
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None yet. |
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| Review: |
Mm. Where to start.
I bought this gun for like $100 and i thought it was going to be a peice of crap (because of the price). I was dead wrong. This thing is pretty darn accurate right out of the box. I found a bag of 500 brass eagles in the back of my closet and i put them through the gun in about 2 min. I have not had a single break yet! People say its loud but I like the intimidation factor against my new to the sport friends. Some people say that its to heavy, well start working out. Build some muscle. The thing doesn't look like any military rifle ive ever seen, but it still looks cool. Sorta like a weird M-4. |
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| Conclusion: |
GET IT. Its 100 dollars of fun right outa the box. You will not be let down. |
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Period of
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| 6 months | 5 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Products Used: |
my old ZXS 400
Tippy 98 |
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| Marker Setup: |
MR1
14' Progressive
VL Revy
48/3000
podpack |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
maybe new barrel, 12v Hopper, |
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| Strengths: |
good Scen/milsim/woodsball
really good price
easy to clean/strip on and off field |
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| Weaknesses: |
Difficult to find parts for upgrading
7/8inch rail
heard of detent problems- easily replaced..
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| Review: |
Ok well ive bought my MR1 and i love it, i had the option of the Tippmann or the MR1, i was on a budget and i lean more towards rec/milsim/woods - type paintball: so i was faced with the Highly upgradeable Tippman 98 or the MR1: but the parts for a Tippy was nearly $200 (CDN) to get a good stock and maybe barrel to make it look like i wanted. so i said well the MR1 looks pretty good straight out of the box and i got it instead.
Although the MR1 is difficult to make it LOOK more like a milsim it is a pretty good gun, i used it a couple of times, once in a game and there were no problems ...
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been using this gun for a while, very good so far, only real pains/probs ive had were the detents but once i got the black detents i havent had a seared problem since.... |
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| Conclusion: |
the only problem i see with this gun is that it is difficult to find parts to up it, and even though ive heard problems with the Detent it could easily be replaced, and if you go to the spyder.tv site and go to the forums and talk to a rep there and they will allow you to get a free detent from kingman- also different companies detents, ive heard, could also fit it. so ill give it a 9 outta 10.. only because of the lack of parts to upgrade...so yea.... |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Tuesday, August 8th, 2006 at 5:27 pm PST |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippman 98C
Tippman A-5
BT-4
Smart Parts SP1
US Army Alpha Black |
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| Marker Setup: |
::Spyder MR1::
20" Smart Parts Tactical Barrel
Viewloader Revolution FORCE EYE Hopper
CORE Aluminum Feedneck
Spyder Tactical Rail
Piranha Spring Kit
DYE Sticky3 Grips
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
-Elbow
-Stock
-Barrel, but not a must |
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| Strengths: |
-Tough as Nails
-Solid shooter right out of the box
-Will shoot ANY paint
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| Weaknesses: |
-It is pretty loud
-Not as upgradable as the Tippmans
-Crappy elbow |
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| Review: |
I am a Woodsballer, and if your reading this review chances are that you are too. That being said, I don't expect a mechanical marker to handle like a Eclipse or a Proto.
These guns favor durability over finese and simplicity over insanely complex systems.
They are going to be dropped, kicked around, banged into tree's and sometimes plunged into snow or puddles. Taking a licking and keeping on ticking, hopefully shooting straight afterwards
Thus being the criteria, the MR1 deilvers and then some. Right out of the box, you can feel the durability. Some have called in heavy, but I found it to be comparable to a A-5. It is heavy duty, well made and screams "durable" as soon as you heft it. Add a CO2 tank and the whole setup is well balanced and manuverable. I dont bother with the stock, though it seems to be tough, it gets in the way IMHO.
I initially played a couple of games with the gun totally stock, right out of the box, shooting some cheapy JT paint. Holy crap does this thing shoot straight. Just dead on with the stock sypder barrel, which is ported and seems to be excellent quality. I played a couple of woodsball scenario's and even a few rounds of speed ball with excellent results. Once I sight in on a target, this gun is gonna deilver paint consistently every time, right on the mark. Add a upgraded barrel (my 20" tactical for instance) and things get stupid. Your range increases noticably, accuracy get's even more dead on and the opposing team starts yelling "s**t!!" and diving behind cover when you take aim.
Enough with story time, here's the skinny:
DURABILITY:
This gun is a tank. You can kick it across the room, hammer a nail with it and then shoot your friend in the facemask right afterwards. Also, I play in Alaska and it rains. Alot. This gun does not rust, nor does it mind to get wet. BUT, you will need to upgrade to an aluminum feedneck vice the plastic elbow. That or change out the elbow every time it breaks. The elbow is the only weak point on the gun and it is a major one.
ACCURACY:
I have never shot a gun so accurate right out of the box. Several guys mentioned how straight I was shooting the first day I brough it out and it quickly gained respect in a few short games. Add a J&J or SmartParts Barrel and you may just reek havok. Add a BT Apex for all the Flatline fun of a A-5.
STYLE:
The gun looks good, real good. Most importantly, it looks different from all the Tippmans your going to be playing with. I love Tippmans, they are solid markers, but when 75% of the people you are playing with have 98C's and the other 24% have A-5's, you just kind of want another flavor of marker.
UPGRADABILITY:
This is no Tippman with a million ways to customize, but there are plenty of options out there for you to choose from. The MR1 will take any barrel threaded for spiders, and there are lots of stock's to upgrade to if you need one. You can mount a reddot or scope on top of the optional Tactical rail also.
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If you are looking for a solid, reliable and accurate marker without breaking your bank, look no further. This marker has everything you need, with easy maintenance and plenty of options. This bad boy can easily keep up with the Tippman's and is a viable alternative if you are looking for a tough woodsball marker. Just make sure to UPGRADE THAT ELBOW. |
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| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Friday, May 23rd, 2008 at 2:18 pm PST |
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Period of
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| 1 year | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Products Used: |
tippman A-5 |
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MR1- right out of box- ricochet AK-47 loader |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
maybe a new barrel
hopper |
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| Strengths: |
Durable body
Excellent for woods ball
Accurate
Looks cool
Cheap
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Loud
barrel scratches easy but not enough to harm the overall rating |
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| Review: |
I've been using this gun right out the box and its works fine. I haven't upgraded the barrel and I hit my targetswith like 3 or 4 shots. I get good range, but its a little loud. A few people have worried about the detent breaking but I haven't had any problems with it. I haven't even chopped a ball the whole time I've owned it. Also the elbow that you get with it is pretty durable if you just take care of it. Wrap it in a towel or something and leave it on your hopper so that you dont have to worry about breaking that side. then just make sure its not being crushed by anything in your bag, or just put it in your bag last. Even my friends think its a good gun and they use tippmans and guns like that |
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| Conclusion: |
Good overall marker but loud so be prepared to have some trouble hearing for like 20 minutes after use. |
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Period of
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| Only tested | 4 of 4 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
1 year |
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Products Used: |
Tippmann Model 98 (think vintage on this one!)
Tippmann 98 Custom and Custom Pro
Spyder Victor ll |
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Spyder MR1
20 oz Co2
Remote Coil System
VL 200rd. Hopper |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Barrel
20 oz CO2 with on/off valve (good for any marker saves LOTS of CO2 when disconnecting) |
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| Strengths: |
Strenghts: Very Durable
Nice Feel
ACCURACCY!!!
Double Trigger |
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| Weaknesses: |
Nothing except being loud but I like em loud remides me of Tippy's |
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| Review: |
So I went to Dickssportinggoods the other day planning on getting the Tippmann 98 Custom Pro. I get there and they dont have it. My second choice was the MR1. I looked at the 98 Custom which they had but i did not care for it I wanted the Custom Pro for the Double Trigger, Drop Foward and Longer Stock Barrel! Also for Tippmanns great accuracy and durability. I previosly had the Tippman Model 98 for 6 years untill the bolt crapped out and it started double firing and chopping paint bad, so i decided to just invest in a newer gun. When i saw the MR1 i was immediatly drawn to its stylish looks. I like the rugged military stylings. So i went ahead and bought it for $99.99 not bad considering i was going to spend $160 for the Tippmann. Brought it home oiled it up first and dry shot it (reccomend doing this at least once a week, take some gun oil and pour like 5-6 drops into the ASA feed where your co2 screws in then screw in your co2 and fire it with no paint like 5-10 shots, it lubricates all your internals pretty good which will just increase the longjevity of your marker) so anyways i take it out , oil it and then load about half a hopper and just start firing immediatly from 20-30 feet away bang,bang,bang!! same exact spots i was very suprised with the accuraccy then i proceeded to step back to about 70-80 feet shot it and it started curving left, then i realized i hadnt even adjusted the velolity so i screwed it all the way in but then i encountered a problem i could pull the bolt back so i turned down the velocity by one turn worked fine its probably at its max well i then shot sommore off and it was great the stock barrel is very good not at all like i expected again bang bang bang!!! withing inches of each other from 70 to 80 feet! Verry accurate gun right out of the box |
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I'll have to write another review after i test it out this weekend when im playing woodsball! So Far i would definatly advise any woodsball player of any skill to buy this gun very sturdy and accurate !! even for speedball just take the stock off and it is prime!
only weakness is it is loud but so are tippy's if not louder, but i myself like it louder it is very intimidating to ur opponets. i give it a 9 because i havnt tested it in a game yet and well nothings perfect, very nive gun congrats to Kingman on this one! |
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Saturday, September 9th, 2006 |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 4 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippman 98 Custom
Spyder Victor 2
PMI Pirhanna
ZAP ZXS-400 |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR-1
Smart-parts 16" Linear Barrel
Tasco 30mm Red Dot Sight
32 Degrees Remote |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Barrel
Sight
Remote Line and HPA |
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| Strengths: |
Very Reliable
Rarely Chops Paint
Very Accurate
Field Strips in literally seconds. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Read Review |
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| Review: |
Overall i am Very Happy With this Marker.
Barrel: The Stock Barrel on this Marker is actually really good. Accuracy for a stock barrel surprised me. The only reason I would recommend a new barrel is the stock one has a rather intimidating report which is good when laying suppressive fire, but not good for the sniper situation. I upgraded the barrel with a Smart-parts Linear 16" Barrel and let me tell you This thing shoots darts! From 50-80 feet I can lay the ball within 3 inches of my red dot about 80% of the time (Taking into account paintball ballistics)
Sights: One very bad point for this gun is the lack of a usable sight rail, it is either too short or the top cocking bolt will hit whatever you mount to it. (sometimes with very very bad results). I ended up mounting my sight on the barrel itself, offset on a 45 degree angle. This setup solves two problems. Getting the sight on the gun in the first place, and moving the sight off to the side so your mask doesn't hit the stock while your trying to aim.
Reliability: I know the tippman fans are going to hate me for this part of the review, but I do have to say that over a weekend on the field (I play about 8 consecutive hours a weekend) The amount that tippman owners have to fiddle, fix, and adjust their guns surprises me. I rarely have to do anything to my marker except add more paint and air. I firmly believe that maintenance is key to performance, so make sure your gun is completely stripped, cleaned, inspected, and lubricated after every session on the field.
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Overall I rate this marker a 9, it looses 1 point due to the issues with the stock and and sighting rail. Other than that I would rather own this marker than any other on the market. You don't need to spend an incredible amount of money to have an accurate and reliable maker, Get the MR-1, take care of it and you'll never look back. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
6 months |
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Similar
Products Used: |
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Stock Spyder MR1
-20 oz. CO2
-VL Gravity Feed Hopper |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
I plan to do the following first...
- 16" J&J ceramic barrel $30
- Aluminum clamping feedneck $25
- Remote $25-$30
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- A force feed loader
- Compressed Air Tank |
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| Strengths: |
- Durable
- Comes with Lightweight Stock
- Overall Design
- Price $90... can't beat that |
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| Weaknesses: |
- Plastic Elbow
- Weighs ~4.5 lbs.
- Pull Trigger back about 7/8" |
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The gun has a solid feel to it and fits comfortably to the hand. The Fore grip is an awsome advantage to have. Unfortunately the bolt is in the way of the sight. The stock barrel is fairly accurate (about a 7 out of 10 for the accuracy) and the stock fits comfortably against the shoulder. If I would have to guesstimate how many BPS it was capable of, I would say easily 7 but might be capable of 10. It is very easy to take apart and clean. Overall the gun has a very natural feel to it and is a great Woodsball/ Tactical gun.
***I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS GUN TO ANY PERSON WANTING TO GET INTO THE PAINTBALL SCENE ON A BUDGET.*** |
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I might be a newb to Paintball, but I would definitley say that it is an awesome gun to start out with, if not the best gun to start out with, and for a reasonalbe price. I am a big fan of Keeping it Simple and I beileve this gun does just that. And if you happen to be one of those guys that likes things complex there are many upgrades for this gun. |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
6 months |
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Similar
Products Used: |
VL Triad
Tippmann 98
Spyder Compact |
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Spyder MR1
14" Proto 1-Piece
Revvy |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Different stock
Aftermarket barrel |
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| Strengths: |
Tough
Looks nice
Pretty inexpensive
Good gun to start out with |
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| Weaknesses: |
Barrel?
Fittings on the gun come loose
Screws came loose on the trigger frame |
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I like this gun very much although it could use some improvements. When I brought the marker home from the store I aired it up and found that there was a tiny bit of air escaping from the fitting attached to the ASA. This was easily fixed with some teflon tape. I then loaded a hopper with paint and shot the marker. I found that the barrel has pretty good accuracy, but accuracy could be further refined with an aftermarket barrel. A few days later I took it to a local paintball field, and to my dismay, the screws that attached the trigger frame to the body came loose, but this was easily fixed with loctite. The MR1 is an easy marker to strip, so its good for beginners. Contrary to what some people believe, this marker WILL NOT chop ball detents UNLESS the bolt is installed upside down after stripping it. |
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Although there are some flaws to the MR1, it is still an inexpensive, good gun. I'll give it a 9 out of 10. |
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| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 at 8:28 am PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Experience: |
1 year |
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Products Used: |
Spyder Xtra 2006 and imagine |
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Spyder xtra 2006, 32 degrees spring set, 16" cp barrel and reg, empire reloader b, and sypder rocking triger.
Back Up and woodsball:
MR1 stock ( getting spring and maybe a rifled barrel)
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
well the only necessary thing is a spring kit and maybe a barrel. a cheap electric hopper might be helpful but not necessary. |
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| Strengths: |
Comes with a stock
accurate
looks cool
easy to take apart and clean
price
durability |
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| Weaknesses: |
Stock spring
inconsistant (+/- 20) |
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Pros:
I got this gun as a back up for my other gun and i dont have many complaints about it.
This is basically a spyders version of a tippman but the insides are the same as all spyders. First thing i noticed about the gun is how some inexperinced players were tariffied of it becuse the way it looks. The stock for the gun is very helpful in carrying the weight of the gun and aiming. The price was nice too instead of pay 130 dollars on a tippman i paid 100 dollars.
Cons:
This is a very inconsistant gun although i expected it form a maker that has no requlator so this was not a big deal to me. The biggest problem with the gun was the spring i could not get it below even 300 psi (feild required 280 fps) had to do modification to get it low enough but then it was too low 190-210 fps would suggust geting a new spring kit which you can get for like 5-10 bucks. |
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I perfer this over tippmanns myself mostly because i dont like there desgin. So, If you are like me and used to using spyders and there construction and want a gun for woodsball then get this maker although you must get a spring kit.
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| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Thursday, March 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 pm PST |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 3 of 3 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippmann 98 Custom. This gun weighs twice as less, little more comfortable then the tippmann. |
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Spyder MR1 Stock
Back up:
Tippmann
Response Trigger
14" EXcel Barrel
CP Flame Drop Forward |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
None really, depends on what your likes or dislikes are. I am probably going to get a new barrel, a Low Pressure Chamber, a Delrin Bolt, and an Electronic Trigger Frame. |
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| Strengths: |
Light
Small
Skinny
Low Kick
Built pretty tough, as tough as the Tippmann. |
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Lack of regulator
No LPC |
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I will EDIT this when I test it further. I only had like 7 2yr old Evil Paintballs to shoot out of it with a 9once CO2 tank so yea bare with me.
Well I've been waiting for this gun for like 2 weeks after paying for it and getting my local pb shop to order it. Somthing about the order never being processed. But, they were nice enough to knock down$10 off of it for the wait ;). The gun cost me a total of $110 without the rebate they gave me.
I got it opened it up and smelled the sweet smell of satisfaction :P
It's comfortable, light, skinny, all around SEXY! I had bought a bolt for it before the gun called a ShockTech Superfly Top Cocking Bolt. Seeing this gun is a top cocking it SHOULD have fit but it did'nt, but the shop told me they will help me find one that fits and they'll refund the one I had already bought.
When I shot it with a gravity fed hopper, seven 2yr old Evil paintballs, and a 9once CO2 at my dumspter at about 50 60 feet I was actually impressed at the low amount of kick.. Almost none as a matter of fact. The shot groupings were about one to one1/2 apart from each shot which I also thought was pretty nice.
Some people said that the bolt chopped off there Ball Detent. Well they must have put the bolt in wrong some how cause the stock bolt has a groove that allows the detent to escape when the bolt reaches it so it does'nt shear it off.
The stock I LOVE. weighs like 5 onces (BTW I am a big kid so umm what is light to me might be heavy to you) and is very easily taken off and on by removing a set screw.
The grip is comfy for my medium sized hands. The trigger is alittle far from the "Release Point" as I call it. But there are ways for you to move it back some. But the trigger has very little side to side play and is not hard at all to pull back very easy.
The dovetail..... I don't see why they say it is short. It goes down the spine of the gun so unless you don't have a sight that can clear the bolt then I would see why you call it short but to me it is perfect.
The paintjob is also good. But, I'm finding it hard to find parts that match the Dust Black paint. (I am OCD, I can't stand things not matching nor can I stand them dirty or staying the same for a long time)
Again when I put this gun through it's paces and some more paint through it I will update the review. I PROMISE! lol
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*UPDATE*
I got a 1000R bag of paint today and went home ASAP to see what it could do and to add to this review.
The accuracy out of the box is awesome. I was 4 times as accurate as my tippy and my tippy even had an aftermarket barrel on it. The shot groupings were atleast an inch, inch1/2 apart from eachother from about 50 to 70 feet away.
I know you can't exactly walk with a mechanical like you can with an electronic but I (Well I think you call it this) fanned the gun stock against my shoulder and just started shooting as fast as I could to unload a full hopper on my dumbster. I was doing a good 5 to 15bps through the whole hopper. I noticed quite a kick to the gun but not much to hurt or throw the gun off the target your aiming at. But after I was done lol the barrel was frosty the 9once CO2 tank was sweating like mad and the dumpster had a nice bright orange circle on it :P about 5 inches straight across was how wide it is. But all in all I think this is the best gun I have owned. |
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Decently accurate, some kick, easy to hold with the tank and the stock on, and a great woodsball gun. I might even take it to the local speedball field and see how it stands up when I get an electronic frame.
9 out of 10, I wished it came with a Regulator not just a clip casing covering the hose but that's just me :P |
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| Rating: |
| 9 out of 10 | Last edited on Saturday, June 17th, 2006 at 7:56 pm PST |
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