secondary for turney use mainly
bob long ripper 2 intimidator
Double finger hinge trigger
I recenly purchased this fine marker from a local retailer and must say i am very impressed. The stock reg and barrel are fine but if you use this marker as your primary marker or you are a pump fanatic they need to be replaced you will notice a major difference over the crono and more importantly on the field.Also why do you need a double finger hinge trigger on a pump that plus the asa weight just under 2 lbs. seriously i weighed it. Once these minor detailes were taken care of this became the best pump marker that i have ever used.
Ill give it a 9 out of 10 only because of the reg. changing the barrel is just a standard with every gun ive ever owned with the exception of my phantom and sl-68
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, November 7th, 2006 at 11:04 pm PST
WGP Outkast Sniper II
16" Two piece CP Barrel
ADCO Red Dot Sight
70ci Crossfire Hp tank
Bolt - New Bolt around 23 buck, do not need Delrin as it is a pump.
Barrel - stock is shocking at range
Cost (250) for stock pump.
Hard to convert
The Outkast Sniper II is a fairly standard and completely stock pump marker from WGP. It comes with a Lacking barrel, and a poor regulator, and a pretty lame bolt. I actually expected better from WGP for a Gun that costs more than the Pro-stock.
However, this gun performance wise if pretty good. First thing to do with any cocker is give it some oil, and lube the bolt (as it is metal not delrin). this marker does not come ready to fire. You will have to adjust the velocity, and do not hold the pump handle when firing, because it has a nasty habit of blowing back, and if it does not blow back, it shoots inaccurately.
Once i zeroed the red dot on this baby, i was getting groups firing from a rested poisition of less than one inch in deviation, at roughly 25-30 yards with the CP barrel; 2-3 inches with the stock barrel. The cp barrel is also alot less noisy. The loudest sound the gun makes, when set up correctly and fired properly, it the cocking it's self.
I have owned few cockers, and still own two, one is my race gun. They are superbly built machines, and bost high ammounts of accuracy. For the player who has this gun in mind, I would reccomend you stick to scenario ball, or woodsball, and get your self a ghillie suit and just snipe because of the accuracy and consistancy. Being a cocker, it is fairly gas efficient as well.
Over all, i would give this gun a 7 from 10 for how much you pay againts what you get. In consitancy i would give this cocker a 9 out of 10, for the consitant accuracy with only slight deviation. In the ups categorey, an 8 from 10 because autococker parts a disappearing from the market. And finally a 9 out of 10 on looks, because she is a sweet looking beast. If you know cockers, a good gun for you. If you are new, just buy a semi-spyder of some kind, because chances are this gun will frustrate you.
A new barrel isnt really needed, but will help. A pocket hopper and 3.5 oz tank to keep it light.
-Accurate stock barrel
-Lighter than alot of guns
-Hard to convert to stock class
-Heavier than most pumps
This gun shoots great. The stock barrel suprised me. It was alot better than I expected. With this gun you don't HAVE to to buy a after market barrel right away. SO far i've only tested it for about 40 feet. I was getting ball on ball accuracy with my Jr3 barrel, and Basically the same with the stock barrel. This is obviously a pump ment for speedball. For those out to try stock class, this is not the gun for you. Its also very easy to maintain.
I'm going to the feild next weekend and will update then.
A great gun for new and old pumpers. The price might be a little steep when you could convert an old cocker with a kit, but then again, this isn't an old cocker.
The owner of Outer-Limits let me test out his pump... it was awsome so accurate and very very light i wasted like 2 pods just shooting it at stuff cause it was my first time useing a pump. But if your really into speedball I sugest you dont buy this.
c02 or hpa compatible for 12grams of constant
Comes with a double trigger???
there is chrome on it
As other have stated the cocking rod is a bit tight at first but that is a non issue as you should strip and relube the gun as soon as you get it.
Combined with the scepter kit using a .684 and hpa this is the most accurate marker i have ever shot. No phantom even comes close (now if you could put a scepter or a matchstick on a phantom it would be a different story)
I cannot comment on the stock barrel because i just threw it into my spare box as soon as i got it.
One thing to note though. I hate steel hose so i went to remove the hose from the reg and replace it with a 90* swivel and it seems that the hose is locktited into the reg.
I will be replacing the bolt, reg, trigger frame, and pump handle soon. but awesome marker
If you want to start pump and dont want to get a phantom get this. Then if you like it you can upgrade it.
phantom cci, traccer (not that good). Other autocker, carter.
I have to many to list.
barrel bore to paint fit.
Regulator is not very good.
I bought this brand new, It came with DVD, and manuals and tools. I love playing Pump, and usually use my CCI phantom.
I said to myself, I will try autococker, so I went ahead and played with this one.
I went on a Saturday morning and chrono the outkast. I must say the paintball went outkast everywhere. Meaning, the paintball chronoed sucks so bad. It went from 243-280. I wished I stayed home and stayed with my mama.
I was thinking, maybe there is a break in point. NO THERE WAS NOT.
I thought this pump suppose to be accurate? My spyder is more accurate than this. Wonder if my talon even...
I played with it, I really didn't like it personally.
I put it on my closet and there it will stay. Let the Dust and the rust gather.
I wish I have time machine and should have never sold my old 2001 cocker sidefeed. It was so much better.
Anyways, after almost 6 months, I met a guy, who won 2nd stock tourney, and he was also using outkast pump. I said that I should Ressurect my outkast cocker.
So after six months... took the pitiful outkast out of the closet, and my outkast said "I am coming out, I want the world to know"
Well cleaned off the gun, took everything out, and put in a best reg. Palmers, change the springs, took off all the old grease out. Don't use grease, use a little bit of oil only
Drilled through pump holder, for lower pressure.
Pump it, 50 times to take off the residue...
THERE IT WAS.... Amazing.
Shooting ball to ball and STRAIGHT, on 100 feet.
I was amaze.
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE REGULATOR. Outkast Regulator equals poop.
Piece of shiznit regulator, I wish it was never born. It is not suppose to be called regulator, but Crapinator.
Difference between my cocker and my phantom, my cocker shoot accurate straight, and my phantom accurate on curves. I love them both. My outkast is no longer an outkast, but my newly adopted baby.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, May 14th, 2008 at 9:38 am PST