THE INVERT MINI: Fast, light, tight, and ... tiny! But more impressive than the size and feel, the MINI boasts some of the hottest new technology to hit the paintball industry in years! If you're ready to experience the next stage in paintball evolution, grab a MINI and step ahead.
* Weighing in under 2 lbs (including barrel, ASA, 9volt battery and regulator) the Invert Mini? might be THE Lightest & Tightest electronic marker available
* NEW patented proprietary P.C.P. (Pressure Controlled Poppet?) operating system
* NEW patented proprietary MINI Regulator/ASA
* NEW patented proprietary Slipstream solenoid
* Break Beam Anti-Chop Eyes Standard
* Multi-mode (NXL, PSP, NPPL & Millennium) firing capability with easy tournament lockout
* Clamping feed-neck with Ion (Smart Parts)/ICD threads
* "Cocker" threaded barrel
* No hoses to crimp or break!
* Initial production colors will be polished finish Black, Red, Blue, Silver Dust, or Olive Dust
* One year limited warranty
* Available through your local retailer in time for Christmas!
* MSRP: $324.95. At actionvillage.com
The Invert Mini is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. Check out the Places to Buy links below for places to purchase it new.
Stock, Pulse loader, 70ci 4500psi crossfire tank stubby.
Fast, lite, accurate,simple to work on.
None, other than you cant put a drop on it.
Ive used this marker now about 5 times and i love it. Straight out of the box this thing ROCK'S. I have not chopped a ball yet with this set up. The marker is a new gen3. Great for snap shooting its so lite and accurate that two or three shot burst's sends someone to the dead box. I own 19 marker from Tippmanns to Angels and everything in between and this marker is one of the best for the money.
14" STIFFI MAMBA
New Designz on/off
Crossfire peanut tank 70ci/4500
- New Designz on/off
- Barrel (not necessary)
- Very Fast
- Super Light
Maybe the fact that it doesn't come with an on/off.
Fast, light, tight and tiny. This is so far one of the best, if not the best gun i've ever shot in my life. Very quiet, very little or no kick, super fast, and very light. You might not get used to it the first days, you might feel wierd using it because of the size and fell. Give it some time and you'll love it.
The first day i got it, went to shoot it; no chopped balls, it shot ball on ball, it shoots ropes. It is air efficient, but the on/off makes it even better. It is very fast, there is no need to upgrade the board but i still did. Pretty accurate for an stock barrel, bought a stiffi and made the gun even lighter and more accurate. I am telling you, buy this gun and you will not regret, the best gun i've ever shot.
This marker is a must have, good price too. The only thing is that if you buy it now, it does not come with the case anymore. Go to your local store and try it out, you'll love it.
i 100%recomend a volocity make all the differance not only in the speed of how many balls enter the gun but the sound but the seed weight and looks. A ultralight barrel.
Love my gun i highly recomend this gun I love it i is a great snake gun or any player.You have to buy this gun. it is very light very accurate &very small and fast.I love it it even had some say that my gun is a really good ego before they saw who shot them.also became it is so small when I am waiting for some one to pop out I get them every time. For instsnce my realy good friend eric was on the snake and i was in the bunker right behind him, so when a guy ran out to bunker him I could easily cover his body with white paint. Another realy good friend of mine used my gun scince his Russian legon shoker(99th ever made)
and as I watched him use it and herd it ripp(shoot really fast) & shoot so accerate I got jelose that I am not holding it! great gun buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok now I need to tell you what not to do and what to do:ok rule #1 always unscrew your tank before dissasimbling any part of the mini.#2=DO Not turn the eyes off without air and shoot(will make a clicking noise)....break your solinoid.(not good).#3 before taking apart your mini completely watch the video on taking apart your mini will help a lot.Oh and you cant unscrew the feedneck.#4the bolt cap in the back never screw down to tight, screw it down untill it is even with the bolt and then one full turn tighter.
Ok that is all I can thank of so see ya hope this helped.
I have to give eric and cameron props scince they were the one who told me to get the gun.
I love it love love love it is twiked!
10 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, March 16th, 2008 at 8:11 am PST
Timmys - love timmys & can't comment further.
Trixes, old & new - quieter but performance is the same.
Interceptor - they rip but no joy involved in disassembly.
Ion - worth the money at half the price of the Mini.
Guerilla Ambush 68/45
Trigger, maybe. See review.
Heard about problems with first gen boards & poppits.
Can't upgrade reg/asa (yet).
Traded for a lnib Mini so i think it was somewhat broken in already, which i understand to be an issue because of the spring return on the bolt (smooth out the stiffness).
Also heard about faulty boards & poppits with first gens. No problems here, although i have yet to verify which gen this particular Mini is.
Reset the board to factory settings, aired up & first noticed the previous owner had the reg tuned below 190, which didn't cause any ill effects upon shooting some paint. My handheld chrono needs a new battery so wasn't able to check the velocity. Shot some paint, things seemed good. Didn't notice any kick that others mentioned or how i would've expected from the spring return. Or maybe kick doesn't bother me.
Week later (today, in fact), i gassed it up again and turned the psi up to roughly 190 & backed out the velocity adjuster. I had been able to shoot holes through a plastic plant pot from 20-30 ft so turning it down was a good idea. Still seemed good.
Started pulling fast to check for any shoot-down, hiccups or other assorted problems. It'd shoot a few then stop. I'd tap the hopper & shoot more, then it'd stop. Turns out the sound setting on my B2 wasn't high enough - the Mini is quieter than i thought. So i turned the sound sensitivity on the B2 to 4 (stock is 3, max is 6) and shots came smooth & non-stop after that.
The barrel is a solid performer as well. Shot some month old Karnage Tear and it was near ball on ball. And also makes the gun look totally hot.
Clamping feedneck is always a nice, small detail as a stock part and this one works really well. It's the perfect height for my hopper's neck and holds on tight.
Even the stock detents are nice. Rubber nubs suck and it's sad to see them on stock guns. Glad they're finally getting phased out with the latest guns in this price range & higher. I remember when trixes & timmys had stock rubber detents & i wondered what they were thinking. Details like this are proof the Mini went through a lot of R&D.
Internals are probably the best design focus on the Mini. Switch the board & reg spots to eliminate macro & fittings? Genius. Use as little wires as possible. Fantastic. Single tube design? Well, the tubestack design is still practical in modern pb technology so i could go either way.
EDIT: Trigger guard, i noticed last night, is enormous. Like i could probably walk this thing wearing ski gloves. So fear not, bearers of full-finger-gloves. Invert provides.
EDIT 2: Adjusted the trigger more to my liking (sticking out more). Previously expressed interest in replacing it but i'm gonna hold off for now.
EDIT 3: The asa is starting to get to me. Having an on/off would make it easier but i can still manage to unscrew the tank. NDZ makes an on/off adaptor i may look in to, but it adds maybe an inch. Some people recommend switching out regs for a Myth (because it's tiny) or getting an lp tank reg. Not sure if i want to do either of those right now.
First full day out with the Mini went well, except for the chop. Managed to shoot through it ok & finish out the day. Later that night, i did a complete tear-down (pretty easy, btw) to clean the breech & eyes, then did some forum reading to trouble-shoot the problem.
Ruled out blowback (did the two-ball-in-feedneck test & checked the poppit - gen 2, same with the board). Narrowed it down to using regular paint in cold weather. Upped the BIP to 7, per somewhere in the PBN stickies, tested it in the backyard with the same paint & it worked fine. Although, now my hopper needs new batteries. ¬¨_¬¨
This is a great mid-level-budget gun that's fast, light & simple to maintain. Gen 1 Minis had poppit & board problems but Gen 2 (any nib Mini now) has updated internals, since KEE addressed the issue early on.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, February 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pm PST
Silver invert mini
3000 psi 48 cu tank
halo b hopper
Easy to clean
The foregrip is to close to trigger frame
Takes time to get the spring to break in
Well, first off I decided to get an invert mini because I tested out my friends and it was amazing! So after I tried it out I called my paintball store and asked how much it was. They had made a mistake and told me it was 300$ when its normally supposed to be 400$ to 450$. So because of the stores mistake I got lucky and I got it for 300$. When they finally got it in stock I went home and aired it up. I shot it and I noticed it had a little bit of kick back and it was sort of unacurate. I had firgured out that it was because I needed to break it in. So after I broke it in a couple days later it was amazing. The accuracy is great now and it rips. Its also kind of nice to have one because everyone at your field compliments you on your gun. I had 7 people compliment me on mine. Its overall a great gun, BUT I would wait a couple more months till they have all the bugs sorted out. Even though mine was great and didnt have any bugs doesnt mean that yours wont have any.
EDIT: Ok. I took my gun apart today to clean it and to lubricate it and I noticed there were four huge deep scratches in my bolt. I called kee and they said that it was from the spring rubbing against my bolt. They told me it wont really mess up my gun but that they would rather send me a new bolt and spring.
I would really reccomend waiting to get the invert mini. Even though my invert is amazing with no problems I think that you should wait a little bit longer to get one so the bugs will be sorted out, then after the bugs are sorted I reccomend getting one right away.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, July 20th, 2007 at 7:56 am PST
promaster(close but no cigar)
B2K4(not even close)
halo w/victory board
68/4500 pure energy tank/low pressure
not much that I see
Good efficiency and consistancy
good accuracy/with new barrel
easy to maintain
not many upgrades(for now)
Mag bashers don't like it
Picked it up after some of the flaws were worked out by the company and fell in love with it. It shoots like a dream. Stupidly light and tight makes this gun a snapshooters dream. Good accuracy with the stock barrel, but threw on my stiffi and the gun shot darts! As far as upgrades go, I really don't need anything on it. People say the trigger is bad but if you tune it to your liking, then who's to say it's bad. The board has all alot of modes, even though I keep mine at semi. Very fast stock board, but if you like to tweek, then there will be boards out for it soon. Nice feedneck and asa/ regulator. Kinda positions like a direct mount asa, which I love. And best of all, Easy to maintain. Very little parts that can screw up and as long as you have some basic gun knowledge, you'll be fine. If not, go online for all the breakdown/assembly/troubleshooting you could ever need. People may bash it 'cause it's like a Mag, but the automag had everything but speed going for it. Problem solved! If you get it, be ready to let everyone at the field hold it and/or shoot it(depending on how nice ya are). I had two people ask the field owner if he could order some for them after shooting mine.haha
All in all I think this gun rocks! It is at a though price range at around $400, but i have shot most of the guns in this braquet(pmr, Up'd Ion, epiphany,) and to my tastes, the mini is better. I give it a 10 becauseI just can't find a serious reason to give it a lower review.
Various electronic high ends. Egos, Timmys, Angels, Dyes, the usual suspects.
Turtle Autococker Half Block Custom Milling and Anodization
All Turtle Internals
Evil Stainless Steel Front Block Kit
Nickel Palmer's Pursuit Shop Fatty Regulator
WGP kaner Kit
KAPP Nickel Hinge Frame
Dye Stickies 3
Halo B (Overkill on a mech cocker, but who cares? Its off my other gun anyway...)
Nothing comes to mind.
Unique Design Concept
Unique Design Concept
No drop forward adaptability.
Tested this at the Word Cup. Shot reballs like everyone else, so I don't know how the Eye Logic is. The balancing was a sin, and the foregrip was nasty at that. A gun so poorly balanced can be corrected to some extent by installing a drop, this gun has the silly integrated macroline...cant put a drop on it. The trigger wasn't the nicest in the world, but it wasn't bad. I could get a decent speed going on it. I was impressed with the noise level and valve performance, which were impressive, as was the accuracy.
Edit: I got to shoot another, I was happier with the performance a second time through. The trigger is decidedly uncomfortable. I still do not like the balance of it at all, and it feels too small, and you are hearing this from a Turtle owner. I am raising it from an 8 to a nine because I got a peek at the eye logic, seemed wonderfull. It was ramping maybe 24ish and making a Halo lag, and it delayed the bolt and prevented chops. Since it is basically a mag, hopefully there will be a level 10 bolt for it. That would be wonderful. I will update this review again if I get a chance to play with one.
It was a nice experience, but I don't know if I would want to dump ~$450 into one.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, December 11th, 2006 at 9:02 pm PST
SP ion, Etek 3 LT, Empire Axe and many more high-end markers.
Invert mini, Virtue'd
Invert 14" Twister Barrel
CrossFire 68-4500 Tank
Maybe a Barrel, not needed though.
A board, also not needed.
No Macroline Hose
Overall Design: This section is largely for you old-school ballers out there. The Mini is what the E-Mag should have been. I am a huge fan of all of AGD's work, and looking at the Mini, it looks like Invert took a cue from Tom Kaye and the gang at AGD. The marker seems to be a hybrid spool valve/poppet valve/blow-forward design. It's rather genius. All of the electronics are housed in the foregrip, and the mechanical guts of the marker are contained in the rear of the mainbody. All one needs to do the clean the interior of the mainbody is remove one screw and the bolt and valve slide out the back, very similarly to an Automag. The integral ASA and regulator provides air to the marker through a hard line in the trigger frame. This results in no external hoses.
Size/Weight: All of this combines to make a marker that is compact and light. It feels about as light as my CCI Phantom. For those of you too young to know what that is, trust me, it's light. This marker is so easy to sprint with, that it became an essential for the guys I play with who are in the front. They threw a 4" barrel on it and went nuts.
Price: New, this marker was only $324.99. One can find them used on E-Bay for well under $300. This puts it well under half of what I spent on my Matrix.
Maintenance: The design of the marker makes the maintenance a breeze. All one regularly needs to do is clean it and lube the bolt. It's just that simple.
Efficiency: I didn't really pay too much attention to how many pods I got out of my tank, but I seemed to fill it about half as often. I'll pay more attention to it the next time I go out.
Speed: Stock, this marker could almost keep up with my Matrix, in semi. It was competitive with everything on the field. Since I swapped the trigger to a CP Rake Trigger, it is firing even faster.
Quiet: This needs to be taken with a grain of salt, since I was using my St!ffi barrel on the marker, but it was astonishingly quiet. Not as quiet as my PM6, but people knew who was firing at them when 12 paintballs came quietly their way.
Trigger: This is purely personal preference, but there is considerable slop to the trigger. The magnetic return also makes it a very soft pull and return. I prefer a more stiff and crisp pull. The CP Rake Trigger with a spring return eliminated most of the side slop and gave it a more crisp return. This was more to my liking.
As a counterpoint, some people really like how soft the stock settings are. There's a lot of bounce at some points that some have exploited for insane rates of fire.
LED Placement: This only really applies to those of us who play night games, but the placement of the LED makes it constantly blink red and reflect off the trigger fingers. This could give a person away in a night game. It does not really apply to the regular games that I play during the day. It could simply be taped over, but I'm being nitpicky.
Board: This is not something that bothers me, as I only play at fields that require semi only, but the programming is very limited, and the rate of fire is capped at 20 BPS. The method of programing seemed a little onerous, at first. If you are in search of more flexible programming and higher rates of fire, then you might want to consider an aftermarket board.
Integral ASA: Finally a word should be said about the ASA. The unique design of the marker fixes the ASA in a static location. This is not a big deal to me, but if one wishes to install a drop forward or stock, it is not an option. This was a sticking point for some of the people I play with.
I really do like this marker. It is a perfectly acceptable tournament marker. It is very fast, and ridiculously small and light. I really like the marker and plan to keep it as a back-up. I really am concerned with the fragility of the marker, though. this would not be such a big problem except right now there are very few techs capable of dealing with minis (there haven't been a lot of classes yet). Due to this, I would recommend that people who have little experience teching markers avoid this guy for the time being. If you are confident in your repair abilities, though, or have a Mini techy on hand, this is definitely a good marker to consider. When this marker works, it works really well; easily keeping up with Egos, G7s, and Dms. For the price, you really can't expect much more, it's just too bad that all the money that went into the packaging wasn't put into making the marker a little more resilient instead.
Stock Invert Mini, Empire Prophecy and a 50/3000 tank
A new bolt possibly
Accurate Fast Light small and easy to maintain
The INVERT Mini is a great gun it has no weaknesses and it is accurate,light,fast and small.If you ever get this gun it's a big bang for your buck and also its very easy to do maintenance.You will never be unhappy with this gun you will love it.
Dangerous Power G3 (see review)
SLG (see review)
PMR (see review)
TechT spring kit
Proto 2- piece barrel .687
Vlocity Upfront SpeedFeed
TechT spring kit- little bit less kick, saves from acquiring scratches on the bolt, WAY better consistensy over chrono
TechT bolt- destroys all kick in the gun and way smoother shot
Proto barrel- whether you get a one piece or two piece, you can't go wrong with a Proto barrel on the Mini.
-No macroline (I personally don't like macro)
-Barrel (12" if you spend $324 on a gun you should get a 14")
The Mini is totally new concept in the line of paintball markers. And so far, I like it. I'm going to break down the Strengths and Weaknesses into sections for you can find what you're looking for.
The Mini is a very light gun, coming in at 1.99 lbs. That's great for snake and front players. Stick a Vlocity or Vlocity Jr. on there and you're ready to go.
It's very compact which I like because it's easier to get into tight spaces like the snake. Also it's nice and thin.
I've always had a hard time with macro's because, starting out with the SP vibe not too long ago, I almost had to drag it when moving in the snake. I'm just not a fan of it.
20 bps is fast for a marker this small.
The 12" barrel shoots pretty decent for a stock barrel. But the easy upgrade of a Proto barrel makes a world of a difference. I suggest getting a 2- piece bored at .687 or .689.
Now for VERSUS!!!
G3 vs Mini
The Mini is a poppet and the G3 is a spool valve. While the G3 has speed over the Mini, the Mini is just overall a nicer marker. The grips on the G3 feel cheap because of the edges. The Mini also beats the G3 out in the category of bolt assembly. The G3 has a little ring thing infront of the bolt when you first buy it. That little thing gets annoying! But, the G3 wins in ASA's. The flip on/off ASA is better than the screw-in one on the Mini. But, that's the only category the G3 wins in.
G3 < Mini
SLG vs Mini
The Mini just pounds the heck out of the SLG anyday. While the SLG does 33 bps, you can't hit anything because of the puny 11" barrel. This is the only product from Proto I consider a joke...
SLG < Mini
PMR vs Mini
The PMR retails at $450 and the Mini at $324. If you were to upgrade your Mini with the following:
Proto 2- piece $45
TechT bolt spring $15
TechT MRT Bolt $45
...you would have a marker that, in my opinion, shot way better than the PMR. My setup smokes the PMR because the Proto 2- piece (same as stock PMR) shoots ropes, the bolt spring making it extremely consistant, and the MRT bolt providing a smooth and kick-less shot along with a quiet one just like a spool valve, but still having the air efficiency and consistensy of a poppet. And it still costs less than the PMR.
PMR < easily up'd Mini
I would recommend this marker to first time tournament ballers or weekend ballers. The Mini is a great gun for the money. Definetly a keeper!