I had a problem with an air leak the first time I used it.
It seems fairly reliable and doesn't chop balls nor use a lot of co2. The one leak I did have was easily fixed however. The expansion chamber get's uncomfortably cold after a good bit of shooting, though I suppose this means it's working. Ths stock barrel isn't very acurate and loud.
It's a good deal for the price.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, April 26th, 2005 at 9:48 am PST
i have a rebel deluxe with co2 (20 oz.) normal hopper, jt goggles
Very bad accuracy
Slanted hopper feed
Wow well my brother won this in a tournament for me and umm i have to say my first time to use this gun it busted balls and i was pretty mad. its nice and light has good color but it just isnt accurate even with the higher grade balls. and if you play in the cold it really starts to shoot bad. and every single time i have taken it to the field something has gone wrong
Well if i were you i would get a spyder or pirahna for how much you would spend on this gun but now for christmas im getting an autococker so if anyone wants to buy this gun tell me
Orion (I like it bettter though)
Triad (Orion's "twin")
Stock Orion w/11" barrel, 9oz tank.
Great Co2 usage
handle gets annoying to hold
This gun is pretty good for its price. The handle is weird comapared to most paintball guns i have tried. The side feed is really bulky. Its just like having a vertial feed and a side feed combined. That makes the aiming guide useless to me. The Co2 usage is excelent though because of its great expansion.
I suggest you get this gun if you have a very fast hand.
98 custom, lots of spyders, jt 3.5, some brass eagles
rebel deluxe with carbon fiber and i have a e force piranha in the mail right now with a revy
good for just messing around with friends or trying to shoot a bird
look at the review
bought the gun co2 was comming out of the barrel replaced the cup seal worked fine about 2 weeks later about half of the o rings busted then the trigger frame fell of when i was playing and with the velocity screw in all the way and a hard spring i get about 250fps and a ball breaks out of every 200 balls i shoot and i have a perfect paint to barrel match
dont buy this gun they dont even make it anymore just get a spyder or a piranha or a 98 custom those are 20x better
nothing is good about this gone nothing at all and i made the mistake of buying it. buy a better trusted brand like spyder or a tipman.
this gun sucks. dont buy it i got it last year and it is broke already. the bottomline is screwed up, the area where the expansion chamber fits into the gun is already loose and it is bending and the gun is coming loose from the grip and it wont tighten. it often breaks balls, i would find myself shooting 2 and three balls at a time. the gun is also real clangy. for example when u shoot it it is loud all u hear is a big clang, clang.
spyder java edition shutter all stock so far but plaining on getting a tear drop our all american barrel
i just tested it but it could defintally use a better barrle.
its not to bad. shot pretty good for stock. looks sharp. fits nicely in your hands. not very heavy.
it wasent terrible on Co2 but it wasent great. Could use a better barrle defintaly. The balls seemed to break alot in the factory barrel. it was a bit loud to. along with in acurite it did not only shoot of to the side but shot in a deffernt direction every time.
Its a pretty decent gun in my point of view. I almost bought one myslef but in stead bought a shutter due to it had more and better feautures for a little bit more money.
This gun performs really well and outshot (distance wise) all of the guns I was playing against. Accuracy was much better than I expected and allowed me to lay shots in where I wanted to. That may have been due to the Nyte Stikk, but the gun performed excellently also. Only a few ball breaks out of nearly 1500 rounds and it cleans itself very well after a few shots. Rear velocity adjust makes it easy to chrono up.
The stock barrel has no porting and makes stock distance a real downer. The rear velocity adjust set screw was too short to tighten down without coming out the back of the adjuster knob. A shorter spring or the non-tourney velocity adjust would solve this problem though. Shoots ice out the barrel without using a coiled remote. The screw holding the handle on keeps coming loose, but a little teflon tape will fix that.
This is a really good gun for a good price. You will want to upgrade the barrel but can pick up a 32* barrel upgrade fairly cheap. Watch out for ice out of the barrel (especially on humid days) with the stock barrel and no remote. You could upgrade the expansion chamber, but the remote makes the stock one do just fine. If you want a good starter / intermediate gun do yourself a favor and pick one of these up.
rebel deluxe with tear drop barrel 14",,, shark drop forward, 20 oz CO2, revoluthion hopper.
a new barrel . drop forward .
the rear velocity makes it easier to adjust. with a new barrel it gets decent range. if a ball breaks the next few shots will usually clean out the barrel.
with the high sight rail puttig a small scope or sight wont be obstructed by the power feed. If you have a quick finger like me and my friends you can shoot pretty fast.
when you first get it it breaks balls all the time. My pull rod strut broke after a few times playin but it was just loose. a new one made it work just fine. if a ball breaks you really know it because it usually breaks just after the power feed and gives a nice coat of paint down the barrel ( not that hard to clean with a straight shot.) it keeps cutting off my ball detents. Its very heavy. and a 20oz CO2 doesnt help the weight much.
if you have a problem with weight this isnt something you would want, just don't be weak,, lift some weights and you;ll be fine. If you can, use a remote witha stock. brings the weight down. after the pull rod broke and i got it fixed ive havent had any problems but with ball detents. other than that and the weight which i can deal with its a good gun. the price has dropped a bit so its a pretty good starter gun unless you wanna get a rebel topline and upgrade it from there. I cant wait for an elcd frame to come out for it...................