WGP 2k4 VF Cocker
47/3k Nitro Duck ireg
ANS GenX-2 Reg
32* Drop Forward
12' Dye Excel Barrel
System X Grips
Shocktech Splash Trigger
Spyder E-99 Avant
PMI Pure Energy 72cu/3000psi
32 Degrees Universal Drop Forward
32 Degrees 6-stage Expansion Chamber
32 Degrees LPC
16" Smart Parts Progressive Barrel
CCM Clamping Feed Neck
Shocktech Superfly Bolt
Check It Sweet Spot Trigger
Empire Reloader II
Short pull for mech
Price(don't pay over $50)
I'm proud to say that i got this trigger frame for $9 new. It works like a charm compared to other trigger frames out there and is one of the best you can get for your mechanical autococker. Its relatively easy to install and comes in a variety of colors. I installed it myself. All in all this is a decent trigger to upgrade to, but if you looking to really improve your gun, get a e2.
I recommend this product to anyone who has a love for mechanical autocockers(me). and just remember to not pay too much for it because it probably wont be worth it compared to the electronic frame.
the marker i have this product in is:
was stock, JUST added a WORR Hindge Traigger frame,
planet eclipse On/Off Purge & Mini Rail
J&J Ceramic 14 inch barrel,
KAPP Twisted Cocking rod,
Coopet-T Delrin Bolt(this guy is pretty unknown and has a GREAT product),
otherwise the rest is stock.
i usually use a dye trottle 91/45tank
Price, color, ease of install
None, i kinda wanted a single trigger, but found this for cheap
I just had my grip on my mech autococker crack after at least 5+ years(it was a plastic one-totally old school) and i LOVE my mech autococker, it is a workhorse TACKDRIVER(i also own/use a WORR Nightkast(e-blade) but i am true to my mech, NON-ELECTRO marker. this crack made me very sad and i was looking for another cheap, black, single trigger replacement, tono avail, but i did find this product, and at 30 bucks, it was a steal!
price: 30 smackeroo's a STEAL in my book
packaging: clear plastic with backboard AND instructions
Install: a sinch, but the screws were not included(as instructions stated they where) and i could find no replacement at home depot either, or at a few local paintball stores.
one shop tech told me, "hey WGP is right down the road..." so i tracked down their secret HQ and the guy covering the front desk(receptionist was at lunch) working normally in back and he said, "no problem" called up a runner from the shop and BAM he handed me the perfect screw. PROPSto WORR/WPG for that, and they wouldnt take a cent in exchange...so i get it on and good thing i actually read the instructions, i would not have thought about having to flip-flop 2 of the three way hoses.
feels great, dry fired it a bit and seems fine, ran a hand full os paint through it with no probs, playing tommorrow so i will add in an update on actual game play use.
ACTUALLY PLAYED WITH PRODUCT TODAY:excellent use in the field, my marker did use more air faster than is used to...did i install wrong or is this normal? does anyone know?
so far i HIGHLY recommend this product,
especially at 30 bucks!!!
after playing with it i still give it a 10 and highly recommend it.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, February 18th, 2006 at 8:09 pm PST
2002 VF Autococker
WGP Swing Trigger
WGP Black Magic Venturi Bolt
Freak Barrel System w/ 12 Freak front
Smooth pull and easy to install
Not quite as adjustable os the KAPP ST, no bolts to attach asa
I got a great deal on this swing trigger and went with it. I haven't been disappointed. This trigger is so much better then the stock as it is much more comfortable to grip and can really lay some paint with it. The KAPP trigger frame my buddy has is a slightly more adjustable in pull-length, but his didn't come with (and he can't find) a safety for it. So immediately I would choose this one over the KAPP.
Great product and would recommend to anyone looking to get a swing trigger for their pre-2003 cocker.
'03.5 / summer edition / something like that cocker
'04 stock reg (until I choose between a CP shorty and CP long...)
maddman spring kit (green main / blue valve)
ST superfly bolt
ST minidrop w/ on/off
a/s co2 (meh, i may get hpa someday, i may not, who knows?)
empire reloader w/ new revvy shells, vl200 lid
Powerlyte Scepter kit
getting for x-mas:
CCM delrin back block
Slik Edge III bolt
CP direct mount on/off
Shocktech Bomb 3-way
another co2 tank!
Makes gun go boom...?
Uhhh... not electro?
This frame is very good all around. I've heard the Eclipse hinge frame is the best you can get, but they're hard to find (www.compulsivepaintball.com actually has 'em in stock, if you're looking for one). The sear stop is handy for timing and getting a nice, short pull. There are smoother frames, but with a little polishing on the trigger and the inside of the frame, as well as a good lubing of the 3-way, it's as smooth as a baby's butt.
It also has 4 holes in the bottom instead of just 2, so you have options on how to mount an on/off or drop.
Not a bad frame. If you can get a good deal, take it, but if the Eclipse hinge is cheaper, I'd go with that (my opinion is based solely on hype and reviews I read here).
ANS Hinge, ANS Quickfire, Reflex II, DYE 1 Finger Hinge
RT Custom Automag
LX Bolt (Level 10)
Redz Tank Cover
2001 Shocker S/F
Powerfed w/ Air Assist
Phsycoballistics Dropforward On/Off
PE 48/3000 Tank
Clippard Ram (In the mail)
KAPP Ball Detent (In the mail)
Red Pneus Hose (In the mail)
Though it's HIGHLY adjustable, it's not as easy to do as other frames
I love this frame! Everyone thinks you cannot adjust it, but you can. It is one of the most adjustable out there, it's just harder to adjust than other frames. I did a few simple mods and it now shoots ropes as well as my Mag. It's got 4 holes for the drop, so it cam be moved up a little more if you want it. It fits Sticky Grips very well. Also, the Black Magic flame trigger is the coolest, in my opinion.
Psst... If you want to see the mods I did to mine, here are the links.
^^I did all of those (Basically, took out the return spring, replaced sear spring, shortened and set the pull, and tuned 4-way). I hope I don't get smited for posting links.
Very well worth the money. If you do the mods I listed, you'll be very content with this frame. For all you who call this frame unadjustable, look at those sites up there.
2002 Cocker with shocktech supafly bolt, sp progressive barrel, ANS GenX-2 regulator, WGP Hinge trigger frame, dye sticky grips (the new style), KAPP DZIII, KAPP Cradle, KAPP On/Off, 68ci 3000psi Nitro Duck bottle, Dye Rhino cover, 12 Revolution hopper, and steel braided hosing
Crisp pull, comfortable
Appearance isn't too fancy, but who cares? Installation.
The frame is much easier to use then the slider especially if you were used to the double trigger styles found on other markers (i.e. spyders). Installation can be difficult since you hane to reverse the three way. Back when these first came out many people said that it felt like shooting anm electro. Not so anymore since the Angels have shortened thir trigger pull yet again. It is somewhere around less than the width of a human hair or something! This trigger, however, is exceptional for a mechanical trigger. If you have large fingers the trigger is awesome because it is completely straight. The pull is fairly light. Side to side play is minimal.
All around this is an exceptional trigger. Get it.
Smooth trigger pull doesn't have near the friction of a slide trigger w/o a roller sear. Fast pull, and personally I think they are easier to pull for longer periods of time. Easier to time for me.
Triggers are not as light of pull as slide triggers, after all it is a lever and fulcrum. Didn't like the height difference at first, but you get use to it. Mine came with out grips, which was no big deal since, I am partial to my old hogues.
I am still using a 99 STO 3-way so I haven't reached the full potential of my frame. Just don't forget to swap your lp hoses around, it makes them backwards. I like it better that way, since it looks cleaner.
Mine came with the cam adjuster, which made adjusting trigger stops super quick and easy. Definately get it, too.
I upgraded to this from an ANS Quickfire, which is a smooth frame, but I have never once considered swapping back. The only thing I miss about the slide is how light the trigger was with ultra-light trigger return springs and sear springs.
Stock slide trigger
tried the dye and 32 degrees hinges in the store
94 Autococker, 03 WGP hinge w/ dye sticky 3, hollowpoint 3 way, Palmer micro rock, clippard ram, sheridan inline reg, 16" smartparts all american, 32 degrees small drop
Hinge is much nicer than slide
Smooth solid trigger pull
Grip isn't designed so you can use one finger instead of two
I tried the two above mentioned frames in the store, and the WGP has a much smoother, less sloppy feell than either of them did (they seemed basically the same) I wish that there was a hole cut out below the trigger to allow another finger to rest there so the trigger could be used with one finger, but I don't think any of the other frames really have one big enough for my finger anyway, so that is a moot point. It is very smooth, and very easy to shoot fast. It makes short stroking much harder. I could do without the little blue W on the side, but that isn't really a big deal either. The trigger pull is fairly easy to adjust, given that it isn't something you have to do more than once. There is a screw inside the grip, pointed up towards the sear, all you do is turn it until the trigger is at the desired pull.
It is possible that some other grips would perform just as well, but I haven't seen them, this one works great. I would recomend it to anyone looking for a hinge trigger.
Well, I like this frame a lot, but others despise how it feels. The pull is a bit big, but I can still rip 9bps+ off of it. It weighs hardly anything, and its easy on the hands. I do, however, dislike how the trigger-guard is. Its excessively wide (it could go 1/3-1/2 inches smaller) and makes it a beotch to fit most regulators onto a minicocker without a 15degree ASA.
If you have the extra money and dont want to go electo, this is the best choice
1999 Autococker, Orracle Tickler lpr, Orracle 3 way, STO Ram, Black Magic Regulator, 03 WGP Hinge Trigger Frame, Shocktech Cocking Rod, PMI 68ci 4500 psi preset 800-850 psi, Dye Rhino Tank Cover
Very adjustable, smooth,looks good
none for a mech
This is a very good hinge trigger maybe the best on the market for mechs. It is very adjustable, can adjust it to the point where it almost dosnt move. This amount of adjustment may only be viable on the 03's and up. I have heard that some are not very adjustable. Very confortable and can fit almost any grip on the market. I wouldnt buy anything else for a mech.
This is one of the best frames on the market for mechs, i would only recommend buying 03's and up since the older version may not be as adjustable.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, June 1st, 2004 at 2:18 pm PST