Spyder TL Plus
12v Carbon Fiber Revvy
Mako ELCD Frame
Smart Parts Max Flow Reg
Psycho Ballistics Pro Drop Foward
68/3000 Crossfire HPA Tank
I Really like the LCD display screen. Other frames on the market just don't live up to the LCD on the Mako Storm. There are so many options to choose from, like a ball limiter, timer, shot counter, etc. There is Semi-Auto mose, a Burst mode from 2-12 shot bursts, Full Auto from 5-15 bps, Turbo Mode(really retarted), and safe mode. I really like the small trigger pull, it makes it easier to fire 12-13 bps on semi mode. I could pull about 8 bps with my stock TL Plus frame, but now i can get atleast 12.
Nothing really, only that gravity will not feed 15 bps, so you need a warp feed to run it to its full potential. I ran it at about 12 bps with just a standard 12v revvy and it worked fine. The Spyders will uncock themselves if you fire to fast(About 9bsp) with CO2, because the liquid gets into the chamber. Piranhas do not have that problem for some reason.
If you are looking to go electro, get this frame. It is worth the pretty penny. Don't waste your time with the crappy Kingman frames. Don't get me wrong, I like Kingman guns, but the electro frames are crap. You should probably have Compressed Air if you want to shoot full auto, or even fast, so you don't get drop off.
Super short trigger pull its like a mouse click. The modes are really easy to use, the turbo works really good it is probally my favorite mode.
Mako made it look really cheap and crappy the boo-yaah is much better looking. The grips are crappy plastic. It freezes up alot and you have to hit the side of it to unfreeze it, and then you shoot two more shots and it freezes again. They could just put it on there so people would know what they were getting. That kinda pissed me off. Also it uses up batteries really fast you get like 2000 shot out of a regular 9 vlt battery.
When the thing has a charged battery and is working it is great but when its not it is a P.O.S. I am nervious about playing with it becuse I'm afraid its going to get wet when I waid through creeks or it will freeze up and I will be defenseless.
7 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, January 29th, 2005 at 2:08 am PST
Boo-yaah elcd trigger, spyder flash classic, only tried both, have not owned them
spyder se, 12 in j&J performance 2 piece, aci expantion chamber, spyder xtra dropforward,12v revvy, 68ci 3000psi pure energy nitro
this thing shoots so fast that it will make everyone stay down, making wonderful bunkering opertunities, the burst is pretty useless, unless you want full auto and also want to conserve paint. i mostly use turbo because if i want to just squeeze off one shot i can but i can shoot really fast if i need too
THE GRIPS! THE GRIPS! THE GRIPS!!!!!!!!!!!! These things are horrible, i cant beleive i payed $200 shipped for hard plasitic grips! i dont even think that anyone makes replacement grips for it either, although i was looking at the angel ggrips and those look like they might work. Plus dont over tighten the screws that screw in the grips otherwise your grips will crack. Also you should look into a java rechargeable battery and a charger, because you will only get 1/3 battery power from a new battery. plus its bad with CO2, you really need to run nitro with this thing, other wise you will shoot in circles around your target.
if you got the proper set up (nitro hopper good gun) then this will dominate all, and someone really needs to do something about those grips!
flash which has the esp for all of u who dont know -(old company,boo-yaah,which is now mako)
spyder 2000 with exp. chamber kit and 14'' dye barrel 20oz tank and taso d/f w/ on/off 12v. hopper and mako strom soon to have 2002 auto cocker
light tigger pull
fast-which scares people on the field
pin comes out on the trigger seen happen to many of mako's
electro..... some u have to always have a fresh battery or wont work right and it eats batterys up
good for the price for someone who wants the taste of an electro (150.00 at edgepaintball) but after u use it a while u will most likey want to get out of the whole electro thing and go to a relible source thats not electro
I have a red spyder shutter w/ a 12v viewloader revolution hopper, shocktech rear cocking bolt, Smart parts all american tear-drop big daddy 18" barrel, twisted paintball products low preassure chamber, and a 6-stage ACI sub-zero expansion chamber.
-The trigger is very consistant and delivers a fast r.o.f.
-It has a an elcd so you can see what mode you are in and you can set your burst length and r.o.f.
-It is very easy to install and durable
-It doesn't come with a charger chord or re-chargable batteries which is some extra money out of you pocket
-One of the mounting bolts for the drop foward interferes with the bolt that holds the grip in place
-If you get this trigger you will within 3 months need to get a new rear-cocking bolt because it wears the stock one out pretty fast
-It chops alot of balls if you set the r.o.f. any higher than 12
It's a good trigger if you are willing to put the time and money into it. But I'd recomend getting a Boo-yaah instead. i
5 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, January 29th, 2005 at 5:19 am PST
Center Flag Hyper Frame;Spyder ESP Elec. Trigger Frame
Spyder Compact 2000(2 in 1 JAVA)
Aci Sub-Zero 6 Stage Expansion Chamber
14'' Smart Parts Tear Drop Barrel
12v VL Revy Hopper w/ and X-Board
Well when I first ordered this trigger frame I was a little shaky. Most of the reviews I had read were good, but there were some that said bad stuff. And I was about to spend around $180 on a frame I had barely used. Well anyway I ordered the frame and I got it a few days later. I pulled it out(make sure as soon as you get it that u put spacers and lock tight on) and hooked it up on my gun. OMG I took it out to my back yard and let er' rip! with my revy hopper I could get off 13 Bps! All the modes work to perfection. Also this frame is light as electronic trigger frames go and it has an LCD screen. The trigger pull is awesome too.
The GRIPS!!!! The grips are a POS. They feel like plastic. Althogh I hear DYE will be makin some sticky grips for it in a few months. Also make sure you have atleast a 12v hopper or you will surely chop balls.
This frame is the Sh*t. It works perfectly and helps you keep up with those richy riches with $800-$1,000. Buy it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, January 29th, 2005 at 5:22 am PST
14 in rifled barrel, JT 4.0 regulator and expansion chamber, turbo valve, 9v hopper
The ability to program the frame to mach your marker is awsome! From the trigger travel up to the sear catch, the rate of fire is incredible!
Battery!!!, This frame needs at least a 9.6 volt rechargable battery. If you could find a 12 volts one better.You can oder from MAKO the battery, car and home charger. Also the grip panels do not fit quite well, they leave some gaps and paint could get inside. I did the urethane dripping stuff and worked quite well.
If you are going to install this frame on a JT (3.0 or 4.0) you will need to relocate the drop foward (good luck in finding a fitting or new hose!!) or do as I did, Use the drop foward of the JT 4.0 BACKWARDS (drop rear) then connect 2 hoses together from the expansion chamber/ hose/hose/ regulator or ASA connection.
Also you need to use very small screws as not to damage the board inside.
Be sure to use threadlock or silicone on every screw on the marker, they WILL come loose. The JT can handle up to 12 bps with a 9v revvy and Co2.
The best upgrade to a gun.
If you dont want to wait for JT electro line, go fo it!!
If you have a spyder, and want to go electro GO FOR IT
You will need a expansion chamber or upgrade to nitro
I have used a bushmaster and an impulse and I'd much rather have my gun than either of those two.
I have a Piranha EXT G3 w/ a 14 inch Dye Ultrlite barrel, the mako trigger frame, an expansion chamber, and a 12 volt revvy hopper.
The gun can be programmed to so many different levels. You can adjust it to shoot between 5 and 15 shots a second. The trigger stroke is sweet. It has an LCD display screen which lets you know what's goin on. I would say that my gun is better than any bushmaster or impulse and would use it any day over those guns.
It always says the battery is dead but that's a minor issue and that batteries don't get eaten that fast. I get about 5,000 shots out if it at least.
This is a great upgrade for yuor gun. If you have $170 definitely buy it. But you'll hafta search online to find it for that.
i got an automag w/ hyperframe, 14 inch SP progresive barrel, flatline air and a 12 volt revvy. I also have a spyder w/ mako storm, 14 inch SP freak, custom products drop forward and a for grip
The storm has a very small trigger pull. I got mine SMALLER THAN AN ANGEL. All you have to do is take off the frame, adjust the set screw untill you hear it click then turn the set screw back just a tiny bit. To pick up the dead space behind the trigger pull I put a small peice of felt that had a sticky side behind it. when i shoot on simi I can shoot 15 balls a second
BATTERIES!!!! this frame eats them up so fast. The trigger shoots almost too fast.
Its a really good frame for spydes. The trigger pull is so lighe and small I shoot myself in the foot when I was in my bunker. I can shoot about 7 to 10 balls when I snapshoot. Its a very good frame for the price but i gave it an 8 because it wasts my batteries and it always says they are dead.
Spyder Xtra(green), J&J Pro One Barrel, 12v xboard Revy, 20oz anti-siphon co2
Absoulutely awesome upgrade!!! I slapped this on my Spyder Xtra and went to the backyard for a test. The Xboard Rev' had no problem with 15bps until... ...(dang Co2!) the marker got VERY cold, pressure dropped, and the marker would "half-cock" intermittently. This grip frame has an abundance of modes and you can change modes in a flash. e.g.: Start in semi-auto, get in firefight, push button F1 twice, full-auto, end of story! This upgrade is a lot of fun!
Funky, clunky grip panels. Almost look like they were designed as an afterthought. They don't seal the delecate electronics from the elements (much less PAINT!!!). The grip panels also feel like doo-doo compared to the wrap-around rubber grip that came with my Xtra. I am having my grip panels dipped in urathene to try to fix this shortcoming (it rains a LOT here in Louisiana!!!). Also the obscure, "oversculpted", trigger takes a lot of getting used to. I would've preferred a more traditional double-trigger shape rather than having a big pointy "peak" in the middle of the trigger. Oh, well. Time to dust off the Dremel and shave that puppy down!
This trigger frame ROCKS! I love it and will continue to convert and customize it more to my style. BTW: The reason the battery meter shows "empty" when a fresh 9v is installed is that the electronics in the frame are designed to measure the juice left in a 9.6v NiMH rechargeable. I have ordered the chargers and battery to save some money (have gone through MANY 9v's). Really wish they would come up with some better sealing, better FEELING grip panels!!!!