1st would be the barrel
2nd would be a better expansion chamber
The stock is a nice extra
Has some issues "stock" from the box
Barrel is crap
Expansion chamber leaks on & off
I bought this marker for the looks and boy did it get some!!
As for those people who hate the commando 2 let me just say - BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!
Yes if you buy this marker be prepared to spend some money for upgrades, but in the long run your only gonna end up with a better marker. Those few that say spend more for a better marker ought to consider this: "If I spend more on a better marker, why not buy the commando 2 and then buy some upgrades for it too." That way I can customize it to meet my needs and not have just a stock marker!!!
At first I was unsure of the stock, but damn its great. Traded markers last time I played just for kicks, boy did i miss that stock. As for upgrades - the so called "micro honed barrel" translates into "useless piece o' crap". Get yourself a better barrel from the start. Look for something ported - like the CMI barrels. The expansion chamber has its problems too. Often needs to be adjusted to stop leakage but usually its just the start of the day and is fine the rest of the day. Watch the detent pin, the rubber breaks from time to time and caused a double feed or chopping paint.
**DO NOT USE Cheap thin shell paintballs - You will constantly break paint if you do!!!
It took me a little while to figure it out but cheap paint or thin shelled paint breaks easily in this marker. Buy quality paint that is known for a thick shell - I loved 32 Degrees Competition 2002 but cant get it anymore (damn them). If your a tight wad you probably won't buy this marker cause a spyder victor is like $70 bucks verses $130 for the commando - so it doesn't really maker.
I also lightly sanded the internals which did help - just don't over sand them.
Overall, the Commando 2 is a great marker that just needs some TLC and upgrades right from the box but the money, time, and energy spent are well worth it. I've taken out guys with full autos and electric hoppers. Would I buy it again?? YES I would!!
I give the Commando 2 a nice 9 of 10 only because i think the guys at Avalon could up the stock quality quite a bit and still keep prices where they are now.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, April 12th, 2004 at 9:48 am PST
BrassEagle talon, icon-e, spyder special edtion, 98c, spyder imagine
Avalon GT Commando 2, gravity hopper, 9oz. C02
Breaks balls without electric hopper when shooting fast
Almost impossible to take apart
This is a pretty good beginner gun. I dont suggest going to a paint ball feild without an electric hopper. It is easy to shoot faster than a gravity hopper will feed even tho the trigger pull is terrible. In all honesty it chops balls like crazy which sucks considering that I still havnt figured out how to take it apart. The stock comes in handy. on the other hand this is considerably accuret even tho its stock. Be careful nothing seems to be screwed on too tight either.
This is an OK beginner gun. I wouldnt recomend this considering u can get a better fun for the same price i paid for this. But if u feel its necessary to get this gun or are mezmorised by its stock like my friends are please buy a gravity hopper and have alot of time on ur hands.
7 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, April 24th, 2004 at 5:28 am PST
I suggest this gun for anyone who wants some scrap parts...well most of the gun is actually not even worth usinfg for scrap parts. Hopefully you will take my advice below...this gun is wow...bad. If you really want a gun for around this price, or any semi decent semi-auto go look at the spyder rodeo.
Don't get this gun, it is horrible...even thought I've only tested it, testing is all i needed to tell.
Spyder E99 avant,12v revy, 16 and 13 inch J&J ceramics, 20oz CO2, Remote, and ACI 6 stage ex. chamber
A new bolt, barrel....how about u just get a new gun.
Cheep grip....the gas thru grip is HUGE....and the whole gun is pretty heavy
When I first got this gun i was excited. The third time I shot it the gas thru grip leaked like crazy, the cocking knob flew off (couldn't find it) the hammer was chipped by the bolt and the three burst stopped working (even with new batteries). So now I'm just going to type because there is a word limit, and I couldn't reach the limit because I didn't even want to typr about this gun. The only reason I typed this is so I could warn you about this gun.
Looks good...but looks can be deceiving. I recommend you buy a Spyder E99 avant.
System X baseline Vengeance Autococker with sx 10 drop foward, tear drop barrel, Vl revelotion 2 X-board hopper, Aci Bulldog 61 cu Nitrogen tank
New Barrel (don't spend to much money on it)
An ebay account so you can sell it
Only Spyder clone that has a stock
Gas Efficient (nice expansion chamber)
Trigger pull is a whore
Expensive replacement parts
Here is the scoop on this gun, it is just another poorly mexican made spyder clone. Me and my friend ordered them together and he actually got a halfway decent gun that was fairly accurate (still chopped alot). I on the other hand got a P.O.S. with a mean left hook whenever it shot and tons of other problems. I say you got a 50% chance of getting a halfway decent commando 2 from the factory. Which is obsurd you are better of getting a different gun, don't take the chance.
Okay if your looking for a good gun under 200 bucks get real Kingman Spyder. They were the first to make the spyder and they are still in bussiness for a reason. If your looking at the commando 2 your probably want a gun in the 150 price range, so I reccomand getting a spyder e99 ( Electronic). If you are a n00b and dont want to spend that much get a spyder xtra. Don't listen to these retards the say the commando makes a good sniper gun because they are full of it. Please do not buy this marker because you will regret it, get the real thing!
Spyder Semi Markers, it's spyder based construction, so no great revolution here...
SP Teardrop 14"
Palmer's Female Stabilizer
Dead On Gas Thru Foregrip
VL Revolution 12v
Maddman Rocket Valve and Spring Kit
Samurai Sword as a Backup Weapon
Depends on your further plans for paintball and you requirements... maybe a regulator? it's pretty good stock as for it's class.
Good stock equipped, spyder clone, good starting gun, parts availability.
spyder CLONE! not the real thing! the price is beyond discussion
I bought this gun together with my 2 other pals. It was our first gun, so we were pretty excited and stuff...
However now that I'm more experienced I can honestly say, that it is not worth the money, although it's a good marker.
Generally people hate it. Even in Europe (where I live), but the truth is, it's like most guns: if you put some time into it, will serve you very well. There are no miracles: the gun has to be stripped, cleaned and lubed every game. My Commando 2 works fine, rarely chops paint, never had any gas problems like shootin snowflakes or gun freezin. However it is sorta clumzy. In general it makes the impression of a massive gun as for a spyder clone. The trigger operation is not very... smooth or pleasant. This marker is also a bit loud. Also the price is way tooo high. It's around $120 in that case I think you would do much better thing buyng Spyder Xtra or Spyder Esprit (Under $100!!! and it's an e-marker!!). Also - s**t happens as they say. One of my friends who also got that marker Had nothing but troule with it. I know, coz I whitnessed and helped him with it. First the bolt simply broke and shot out the barrel which was a lucky it didn't penetrate somebody's skull or something. His gun generally freezes every game after some time, although CO2 bottles were swapped, the gun was strpped by him and double checked by me, and seemed fine. still - reckocking problems, strange behaviour generally. I guess it's bad luck, maybe even one in a million, but it could be me and I'd get pissed probably. Screws get loose during shooting, after one long game (whole day 8am till 8 pm) I discovered I was missing 2 scres holding the velocity screw piece. But that happens with most markers during long intense use I guess.
The gun is pretty good, I'd give it a 7.5, against the widely spred opinion it's a piece of crap, but unless it's been given to you as a present, or you got it very cheap, second hand or something, it's noit worth the $$ (that's why I give it a 6... or maybe it deserves only a 5?). Get something better and cheaper like I wrote above.
6 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, July 21st, 2004 at 2:36 pm PST
Imagine and Elite. This is better totally stock than the other two but can easily be outgunned by anything that has a bit o cash put into it.
My current set up is as follows-
Dye SS Boomstick
3a 91 ci 4500 psi nitro tank.
Set up for Commando II-
Stock commando with 16 inch Thunder Pig.
I would recomend definetly a new barrel as with all guns.
Also a agitated hopper is recomended but not repuired.
Pretty accurate for stock
Long Trigger pull
Cocking Nob falls off
Barrel guard is only ascetics
Expensive replacement parts
I took this gun out of the box and took it out to try it. It was my first gun so i was a little wowed at the fact that it waspretty good. It the best stock gun i had fired to the date and i was pleased. Then after about a week i took it into the feild and got down to playing. This gun was really preforming as it was extreamly accurate. I was getting many eliminations and was pleased with its preformance. now onto the bad. Despite its accuracy it was constantly choping balls. The guns absolutly chews through bad paint and i had many problems of the paint slicing when it went into the tube. Also the gun is non feildstripable so it takes like 5 min at least to clean any breaks. Needless to say if you chop in a game you done.
All in all desptie its problems i say that its a solid gun. It can pull you through games that you think are gone as long as you dont push it too hard. This gun works the best with Diablo Dusk balls.
This gun is trash. I bought it because it was my first gun and it looked good. The shop near me couldn't even repair it after it broke for the third time. The gun is bulky and heavy and breaks a ball every 8 shots or so. The internal parts are garbage and the customer service was AWFUL. Don't buy this gun. The trigger pull is seriously huge and paintballs curve so much there is absolutely no way that you can hit your target. PLEASE dont buy this gun.
Garbage, don't buy it. You will regret it. I would give it a zero but i cant so i give it a 1.
the stock is great especially for people who are used to real guns
the stock barrel sucks and the sight rail comes loose
This is a real good gun especially for a beginner. Get your kicks out of this one and then upgrade. Never try to do a tourney with this gun. The gun is good for the first months of paintball then when you get enough money to buy a better gun get it.
Ever sense i have had this gun i have loved it and i always will