ANS 3way, Shockteck Bomb, Stock WGP, WGP STO (best IMO)
Marker Setup:
'02 Cocker raw body, anodized by Bloen Customs (see my home page)
Kapp valve, stainless screw kit, IVG, front block, and 15 deg. ASA
ANS ram and LPR
chrome STO 4 way (I promise it's the best 4 way anyone has ever made.)
Dye Pivot frame
Shockteck Supafly bolt and fat hammer
Mac Dev titanium pump arm and cocking rod
Black magic reg
Bloen Customs beavertail
Egg II
Armageddon 3000/68 NitroDuck 4500/68
Strengths:
Instantly adjustable, stylish milling on the knob
Weaknesses:
requires higher LPR pressure to get the O rings to seal
Review:
I've tried many different 3 ways (4 ways, if you're picky). In my experience, the best one so far has been the chrome STO 3 way. Most of the other ones, including the orracle, require that your LPR pressure be turned up higher than necessary in order to get them to quit leaking. No amount of lubrication will counter this effect. If you are trying to achieve the absolute lowest cocking pressure (just enough to reliably cycle the pneumatics) you are going to need a 3 way that seals reliably at low pressure.
The ability to adjust the 3 way without an allen wrench, needle nose pliers, and a string of curses is fantastic, but since it's something you shouldn't need to do every time you play, I wouldn't sacrifice low cocking pressure for that convenience.
Conclusion:
If you already own one and are happy with the function of your cocker, I'm happy for you. If you are dead set on replacing an STO 3 way with this one, let me have it after you do the swap ;-)
black magic autococker,e-blade,freak kit,nitro duck mega reg,nexus upgrade kit,orralce trickler evo 2 and who cares about the rest.
Strengths:
this thing is very easy to time and looks awsome
Weaknesses:
price
Review:
This thing works great and i would get it if you dont not have it but if you can affored it get an eblade they are the best. i like this thing because of how easy it is to time and looks so cool but what i dont like about it is the price. i bought this for my cousions gun and i got it off ebay for 30 dollars wich isent bad but not cheap. by this thing if you have a hinge trigger.
Conclusion:
this thing is awsome ive used alot of 3-ways and this is the best by far better then freeflow 3-way. by this thing and get it off ebay.
2K3 Vertical Autococker- Ct 3 way, Sto ram, 2K2 Supa fly bolt, Tickler Lpr, Custom Product 1 piece, Viewloader eVLution II , Crossfire 68ci 4500 psi, Titanium pump arm and cocking rod, WGP Flame drop w/ Custom Product on/off
Strengths:
Super Short
Looks good
Adjustable
Not one leak
Weaknesses:
Threads are kind of weak
Review:
Con:
Well I got this product for a X-mas present. When I put it on everything work great, but the threads were kinda weak. So i had to put Teflon tape around it so it would stay put. Then it was never loose.
Pro:
After I got it on, I aired it up. Not one leak! Then when I put paint in it. The trigger pull was much much lighter than it was before. It was also way smoother then ever!!
Conclusion:
This is a great product! i would recommend this product to any cocker owner. The only con was the threads on it, but it can be easily fixed with Teflon tape. One of the best 3-ways I've ever tried!! I give it a 9 because the threads weren't that great.
Stock WGP 3-way - excellent 3-way considering its stock
Shocktech "Bomb" 3-way - absolutely disgusting, see review
Marker Setup:
Black 2002 WGP Vetical Feed
Evil Pipe Kit
Chrome Orr-acle 3-Way
Black ANS Jackhammer II
Black STO Ram
Warped Sports Adjustable Straight Dropforward (crappy version of Kapp Drop Zone III)Black Hinge Frame
Java 68cu 3000psi
Empire REloader
Stock In-line regulator
Strengths:
- Sexy
- Can easily adjust trigger pull/timing
- EASY TO MAINTAIN!!!
- Quick
Weaknesses:
- Kinda long, a little shorter than my Jackhammer II regulator
Review:
The true beauty of this 3-way is not that it let's you time your gun without removing the actuating rod coupler set screw and having to rotate the coupler, or the fact that it helps you create a short trigger, it's that if your 3-way is leaking, you won't have to remove most of the front block components or the top hats/barb fittings to be able to lube the O-rings. Instead, all you have to do is completely unscrew the inner sleeve of the 3-way, thus exposing the 3-way shaft for lubing. Since you don't have to unscrew the 3-way from the front block to get to the shaft, which often requires that you take off other front components, it will save you time and headaches in the long run. The easiest way to lube this is to remove the timing sleeve from the 3-way while the 3-way is still on the gun, put some Vaseline over the end of the sleeve that goes back on so that when you slip it back into the 3-way casing and over the shaft, it lubes both O-rings. Unlike the piece of sh*t Shocktech Bomb, it doesn't even require that much maintenance in the first place, so even lubing it isn't that necessary until after going out after 5 separate paintballing trips. It's definitely worth the $65 price tag, but since we are all cheap, just go on ebay and buy it from a reliable e-store. I got mine for 32 bucks! I've heard that the timing sleeve can come a little loose after not using it but when it's aired up, it shouldn't be a problem. Be responsible and learn how to operate your own damn gun and don't whine about something if it goes wrong. "Perfection" is not a word that goes hand-and-hand with "autococker," but when you get to "pretty damn close" you'll be happy you got it.
Conclusion:
If you experience leaking in your 3-way a lot and are sick of unscrewing the 3-way all the time, get this product. You won't regret it. If you don't know how to lube it and time it, ask your local airsmith to teach you it's not that hard.
2003 Outkast Autococker
-DYE Stainless Steel 12"
-Orracle Bolt
-Orracle 3-way
-KAPP Drop Zone II
-Nitro Duck 114/3000
-12 Volt Revolution
Strengths:
Very short throw, smooth, easily adjustable, and looks great.
Weaknesses:
Installation can be troublesome, and it can also be pricey.
Review:
Performance
-After installing the Orracle 3-way, it was time to time my Cocker and start adjusting the trigger pull. Since I have a WGP Hinge Frame, I timed the Cocker as close to the front of the pull as possible. The lug drops at the very beginning of the pull, and then the 3-way switches shortly after. Let me tell you, this thing switches amazingly fast. As soon as you start to hear it vent, it's almost completely done switching the ram shaft. My back block was completely back before I knew it. My STO 3-way, on the other hand, had a long vent/throw and took forever to switch the ram. I was very impressed. After shortening the trigger pull, I grabbed a ruler and measured the pull at the bottom of the trigger. I was astonished, as my trigger pull was only 3.5 mm long! How short! Also, the Orracle 3-way is very smooth. In fact, I didn't notice any difference in smoothness when compared to my STO. I haven't experienced any leaks with the 3-way so far, and my LPR pressure it pretty low. I did, however, thoroughly coat the shaft's o-rings with Dow-33 before installing the shaft.
-If anyone has told you that the knob on the front of the 3-way can be moved very easily, this is not true (at least in my case). To adjust the knob, I had to put the 3-way into a vise and use a hex wrench. This was a lot of force, so do not worry about your timing slipping just because of the knob. By the way, I didn't use the knob at all to adjust my timing. The timing rod's coupler was all I used.
Appearance
-At first, I hesitated when purchasing this 3-way. I really liked the look of the CT, because I thought the knob was ugly on the Orracle. I payed so little for the 3-way, I couldn't give it up. I went ahead and purchased it, opposed to the CT, and I like the look of it very much. The nickle plating matches the rest of my pneumatics perfectly. It is almost as long as my LPR, but I don't really care about that. It's a great looking and performing 3-way, to say the least.
Conclusion:
I strongly recommend the Orracle 3-way. Like said, it has a very short throw and looks very good. This is a great upgrade for your Autococker, and can improve the BPS (if you shorten your pull) since it has a shorter throw than most other 3-ways .
Rating:
10 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, January 10th, 2004 at 8:55 am PST
2003 Red Vert Feed WGP Cocker, Evlution2 hopper, 14" Dye Boomstick, Custom Products Chrome Flame Drop Forward w/ Red ASA, Black Magic Reg, Orracle Tickler REg, Orracle 3-way, STO Ram (ALL in Chrome) tryin to get an Eclipse Trigger and some other stuff on my gun
Strengths:
its Adjustable so its easier to time
Weaknesses:
I just had a pain of a time getting it on
Review:
I didn't see a big difference in the length of the trigger pull but maybe I've just not adjusted it enough or whatever, Good amount of air flow when I used with the Orracle front reg. Ireally like its looks and how it feels love how u can adjust the timing externally but if unscrew the front too mutch makes it look wierd and all. Someone tell me like how short they got the trigger pull to be and if it was in conjunction with the hinge trigger and stuff
Conclusion:
Really liked it and plus I got this instead of some other 25 dollar part thatI wanted. So guess what I got it for 40 bucks less when I tried ordering my Ram so its all good.
Rating:
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, July 19th, 2004 at 2:42 pm PST
Stock - ehhh, well i don't know anyone with a cocker that still uses a stock one
STO - great reliable 3-way if you "really" know how to time ur gun
Shocktech "bomb" - has a short throw like everyone says, but o-rings blow way too often
Marker Setup:
01 Black Magic
Dye Boomsticks in various length and bores
Gladiator inline reg
Tornado valve
Gen-x front reg
STO ram
Orracle 3-way
Eclipse D.A.R.T Delrin Bolt
Strengths:
Short Stroke
Reliable
Easy timing
Weaknesses:
a bit pricey
Review:
Contrary to others, i haven't had to retime my 3-way since the initial set up. The adjustable knob stays where i leave it gassed or not gassed up. Initial timing is fast and easy, and VERY adjustable. I attained the "ball suck" timing in roughly 3 minutes. Pull is ideally short, while I have not been able to make it as short as the "bomb" 1/2 a mm isn't too noticable, and not going through the aggrivation of an o-ring blowing out on you mid game is definately worth the 1/2 mm.
Conclusion:
Great 3-way, has it's benefits in the order it counts IMO, reliablility, pull length, ease of timing. If you don't mind spending the extra cash I'd definately recommend the Orracle 3-way
if you have this and the hinge trigger frame,the pull is very short.i can get 8 bps w/o chopping.it's very nice,very short,it leaks if you push toward the body on the trigger rod.but that probably happens on most 3-ways.i don't have to adjust it much.in fact i haven't needed to adjust it yet.
Conclusion:
there might be a better 3-way out there,but this one is very nice.like i said this is only my second 3-way...i'll have to see what else there is.i give it a 9 because it has a very short trigger pull and there' nothing wrong with it that i have foudn with it.
Over all this 3-way is pretty awesome. It's average flow rate is...well, average. The coolest plus is the looks and the feel. It's pretty adjustable and gives you a pretty short trigger pull. The price is a bit pricey but isn't that bad for womething of this quality. But it all depends on feel so if you can, give one a shot by going to a pro shop and gettin them to put one on for ya.
Conclusion:
Awesome product to buy to get a cosmetic upgrade and a performance upgrade. A fun thing to play with that's adjustable and that's always a good thing.
2k2 cocker black, kapp pump arm red, dye sticky grips red, dead on pro style df red,orracle 3-way black, kapp sto ram black, nelson spring kit, red front block hoses, jt pro series barrel red/black, 47/3k nitro, rase tank cover black, 9v revy black
Strengths:
- timing
- looks good
Weaknesses:
U gotta adjust ur timing almost every time u take off ur tank...
Review:
I bought this 3-way more or less for its looks... U must admitt they look damn nice. The quality of it is not at a all time high.. I had my pro shop rubbing heads on how to fix a little leak in it when i first bought it. Wasnt to satisfied with the fact i couldnt play with it when i first got it cause it had a leak.
Conclusion:
-Looks awesome
-Timing is easy
-Dint work out of the box (wasnt happy at all about that)
-Timing konb comes loose when there is no presure in the gun, PAIN!
