Autococker Half-Block body. Light weight and Different. The Turtle Cocker. Now You don't have to worry about a Cocking rod coming loose. Faster rate of fire due to a lighter back block, bolt and re-designed Hammer. You can stay tighter in the bunker because you can tuck the gun against your mask and won't get hit in the face with the back block. With the newly patented Turtle Valve, the operating pressure is lower and the gun is quieter and more gas efficient.
The Turtle Cockers Turtle Autocockers are older, so while they may be available used and in a few cases new, they are not commonly available anymore.
Turtle Autococker Half Block Matte Black Annodization
All Turtle Internals
Belsales .44 mag ram with QEVs
AKA SCM3 LPR
Chrome Palmer's Pursuit Shop Fatty Regulator
Dye Stickies 3
Depends..If you spend $1000 on a complete one, nothing really.
If you're buying one of these, you should know what to do...
Very small and light
Well, I was sick of the other guns in my collection. Despite being able to keep up with the best, they just weren't performing beautifully like I wanted. I have built Spyders before, but never a cocker. I love the halfblock design of the Turtle. So I ordered all the stuff that I would need to build my cocker. My best resource when I was stuck were the cocker pages on ottersccustoms.com. I built it up from a pile of parts and a piece of milled aluminum over a span of 3 hours. It was excellent fun, and it was my first time really digging into a post 2000 cocker.
Performance wise, the Turtle is excellent! With my set up, it is very accurate, consistant, and efficient. I get lots of attention at the field with this little flat black and chrome cocker. Outperforms many other cockers that I have tried. Despite being eyeless it chops very little with the force feed hopper. Remember, you can buy this thing complete for $1000, but for that kind of money, I would opt for something else. The Manufacturer, Rob has a website at www.turtleinnovation.com, you can get info and prices there.
Buy one! For under $600, you can get a sleek, sexy, accurate and consistent high end mechanical gun. Very good buy, easy to say 10/10.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, April 13th, 2007 at 6:08 pm PST
E2 or Racegun if you want to go electronic
Dead on Accurate
Paint on Pneumatics
The Turtle Cocker is an amazing marker, even though slightly outdated and in a very unpopular phase of it's life. The turtle brings the idea of accuracy in accuracy, not accuracy in volume. The turtle cocker is light, very accurate, and is fun to tinker with. As long as your running compressed air and have a nice barrel, you are set. However, you're only set after you've timed the damn thing, which thanks to the great staff at my local field, was done for me for free. Once you have everything working properly the gun shoots like a dream. Paint flys where you want it to! It so nice to know your not praying for that ball to hit it's target, you know it's going to hit it's target!
If you're into breaking the fad of raining down paintballs on people, then this is the marker for you. I don't care if you don't like the way the autococker looks- it's pure performance. An amazing marker, but picky in a few areas. After going cocker, it's hard for me to even think of going back. The cocker deserves a richeous 9/10.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, September 24th, 2006 at 12:32 am PST
2k3 Halfblock Autococker
Some other goodies.
Cuts the reciprical mass in half, if not more.
Looks (personal preference)
A bit more difficult to time.
Slotting the body can be difficult.
Well, I first set eyes on a halfblock/turtle cocker about 1 year ago. And finally I did it. When I converted it, I didn't realize how much it actually helps. I lowered my lpr pressure which lead to less kick. Impulse bolts fit this too, which is what im using. One of the downsides is this is permanent. So once you start, you've got to finish. But its well worth it. It also greatly reduced the weight of the body. And no more backblock hitting you in the face!
Do it, you cannot go wrong. Just buy spare parts cause your local proshop probably doesn't have spare parts.
Snapper Half-Block Autococker
Everything is Upped....
Nothing left to do to mine but an MQ and FBM tigger!
Did I say Fast
None at all
WOW, after owning my Mac Dev Cyborg I didn't think it could get any better, but then I traded it off and found its equal, the "Snapper" from Turtle Inovations, this is the Orracle autococker taken to the next level. Mine is Half blocked as well as mini'd. It is anoed matte black, has an E1 with a Zero B board. Every part on the gun is top of the line. Not knowing what the Half Blocks really were I had always wanted one of Race Guns, but I am pretty sure this is just as good. The gun rocks solid, its simply amazing, not to mention how everyone wants it the minute they see it, then they see it shoot! This gun is crazy fast and it litterary sounds like a sewing machine, mine has the Zero B, meaning no Bounce AT ALL, however I have already been able to constantly hit 16 BPS, that with a tigger job that I don't even like! This gun is something else, Granted I have owned the highly desirable Steel Purple Orracle before so I know WGP went the whole ten yards and then some on the orracles, but this thing is off the hook!
Send your gun out to Turtle Inovations today, or buy one while you can!
worrblade with zero-b
turtle delrin bolt/block
5 piece kaner
tickler LPR (soon to be palmers rock)
palmers rock lpr
maybe an E2
Nothin...gun is flawless
Alright so I purchased this gun about a year ago and as soon as I got it I bought the worrblade and immediatly sent it out to be turtled. The conversion took notime at all and while it was there I had it anno'd satin black and when I got it back it was absolutly beautiful. It worked perfectly and it was much easier to play tighter with out the traditional cocker backblock. About a month after I had my gun turtled I decided to get it mini'd (or as turtle calls it a "snapper" conversion). And man I love it, its like a little machine gun, especially when i put the 10 inch tip on my kaner
If you still can, buy it. From what ive been told turtle was making complete delrin cocker bodies and i can only imagine how light that is
Barrel as with any gun
A trigger frame of your liking, mine came with an e1
Well, i had a pretty upped ion. But i felt like i needed something more. I was always a lover of autocockers, and i saw a guy wanting to trade a turtle for an ion. I sprung at that deal. This gun is ridiculously fast. It has the coolness of an autococker's back block function, but yet is different then every next gen gun which uses a spool or poppet design. This is old school in a new school way. I've shot similar halfblocks when i was cali and i was impressed. When i got mine, too it out for some back yard shooting, and man, is this thing light. This has it all, forget about what everybody else is getting, stand out from the crowd, get a turtle.
Its a nice marker, if you have the money or if you have a chance to trade for one, do it. These things aren't cheap if you buy and build them tho. Find a good deal and get it. It blows ions and friends out of the water.
Palmer LRP Rock, Stabilizer, ram and 3 ways
Kapp Reflex II frame
Good finish, very fast cycling, accurate as a full block and more simple to set.
Order waiting ( 6 month)
This kit has a great finish, the valve is very efficient (as a Maddman Rocket), the problem is the waiting to have a conversion or a body kit.
Turtles cockers are customs products and the craftman, Rob Long, don't make it as a full time job, so it make long time to build the product.
But what impress me is the small size of the gun and the fast cycling, especially for a méca frame.
If you want a great cocker, buy it but not be impatient... or wait the new WGP black magic...
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, July 11th, 2005 at 3:16 am PST
Lower cocking mass = faster cycling
no back block, no cocking rod
Customer service needs massive improvement
I sent my e-orry in to be turtled, after being assured that it would take a maximum of 4 weeks. This time frame is important due to me moving to South Korea soon. I ordered the standard turtle with mini-cut, mini front block, and annodized matte silver (so that it and my barrel match my Ego). 6 weeks later I was informed that the marker was back from anno and it would be shipped in 3 days. 7 days later I called and was told that there was some blowback and it would be shipped out in the morning. 7 days later I called and was told that the marker was being sent back to them due to a Postal mistake (I know not their fault, but it is kind of irking after overnighting it to them by U.P.S.). I called the following week and was told that the marker was lost in the mail and they were trying to locate it. Finally later that night I was told that the marker was found and being shipped back overnight. I finally received the marker the next day, the marker and barrel shoved into the padded case, rubbing against each other, which resulted in scratches in the new anno job. The regulator was not annoed. The mini conversion was not done (money was refunded), I was told that WGP no longer makes the mini front block (in direct contrast to what WGP rep at Orlando Open told me last Thursday). Functionally the marker works great, the lack of a back block means you can tuck in tighter than with a normal cocker.
Functionally the turtle conversion is great. Customer service is seriously lacking (The owner and his wife are nice people). Fifty cent of buble wrap would have saved the anno job (not having time to send it to be reannoed means I will have to live with it for awhile). Honestly if I had it to do over again I would not go thought the pain and frustration.
32d medium drop
emipre quick throw on/off
WGP trigger frame
Eblade ram w/ QEV's
Smaller than a Indian creek freestyle, no lie!
This gun is amazing, so quiet and small. Bob did a good job all round. But this review is to warn customers of bobs business practices. Bob does not return email, phonecalls, or messages...i ordered my gun before december 2004 and just got it in march of 05. I dont know what his problem is but when i got the gun the 3way is leaking and needs sealing up, AND HE EVEN FORGOT TO BORE OF THE DELRIN BOLT...so im stuff with a solid bolt and cant shot the first paintball...really makes me sick that after all this wait i cant even shoot the gun. Now he wont return me email asking for another one...
THE GUNS ARE GREAT BUT THE SERVICE IS SLOW AND CRAPPY.
2003 E-orracle turled with nexus internals, 14" freak, Evolution II with Z-board, Mac Dev 68/4500
Lighter weight, faster cycle speed.
Time spent converting.
First off, this is a great mod for someone who has done every other conceivable modification to their cocker. It does reduce recoil and increases the cycle rate. The conversion does take some time, about 5 weeks. The milling and anodizing is top notch, no tool marks were left from cutting the body. Follow up and support is great. Bob stands fully behind his work and is a stand up guy.
Great mod, good customer service.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, June 27th, 2005 at 6:07 pm PST