Autococker Half-Block body. Light weight and Different. The Turtle Cocker. Now You don't have to worry about a Cocking rod coming loose. Faster rate of fire due to a lighter back block, bolt and re-designed Hammer. You can stay tighter in the bunker because you can tuck the gun against your mask and won't get hit in the face with the back block. With the newly patented Turtle Valve, the operating pressure is lower and the gun is quieter and more gas efficient.
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The Turtle Cockers Turtle Autocockers are older, so while they may be available used and in a few cases new, they are not commonly available anymore.
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My current gun choice is a 2003/orracle un-official tutrle cocker ( dont know where it was made, but it ripps paint like crazy). The gun has a modified orracle valve pin, with custom brass hammer internals, the gun comes with an eblade w/ eye installed.
Front Pheumatics are as on an orracle, Orracle LPR, Dye ram w/ palmers swivel qev's, and e-blade soleniod, also the front end cap has a volumizing chamber on it.
*a physco drop w/ on off and gauge.
* Ergo reg ( works like a dream, although i perfer MacDev gladiator.
* 12" Carbon fiber stiffi barrel
* angel threaded vert feed.
* custome delrin back black w/bolt.
* all stainless steel parts.
Feeding this gun i have a 2004 halo B modified with a Victory v35 board, which lets it rip to an amazing 35 BPS!!!!!!!!!!!
Recommended Upgrades:
Use HPA no doubt. Would reccomend to get a new LPR, tickler is nice and small but Rock reg blows it out of the water.
Also my last marker had prime phematics one which was a SMC freeflow ram w/ QEV's( no doubt just as good even better than besales 44 mag ram)
also this gun would be unstoppable with a RaceFrame
Strengths:
LIGHT, FAST, Compact, Cool
Weaknesses:
None
Review:
all together this gun is great. You can get your gun Turtleized by many different companies including turtle. Or you can purchase a halfback body for doc machine dot com. I couldint really point out any weakness or anything other than the use and wear on the cocker. If you get one look into the half-back, very cool turtle cockers, compared to the average turtle cocker wich looks like a chopped stock bodie.
Conclusion:
If you like to push paint, get one of these. You will dominate with it.
Freeflow mini-lotus, e-bladed, Sanchez barrel.
Freeflow Trauma Matrix LCD with Freak system.
Turtle cocker, e-bladed with Stiffi barrel
Recommended Upgrades:
None.
Strengths:
Lightwieght and wicked fast. Reliable and accurate.
Weaknesses:
Just the battery life of the e-blade
Review:
I have a Freeflow mini-Lotus also e-bladed and the Turle is both faster and lighter. Reliability is the same as is the accuracy. This is a great marker and as fast and reliable as any high end marker out there. I plays tighter and is just wicked when it come down to laying down the paint.
Conclusion:
If your looking for a light weight ,fast, accurate marker at a fair price don't over look this beauty. E-blade or race it and you have a great marker.
Turtle Body
Turtle Delrin Back Block
Turtle Bolt
Turtle Valve
Custom Milled F/F Tungsten Hammer
MADMANN Spring Kit
WGP Ball Detent
WGP Slider Frame
WGP CT 3way
PPS Rock LPR
KAPP Clippard Ram
WGP Inline Regulator
Shocktech FrontBlock
Recommended Upgrades:
Replacing the Freeflow Tungsten Hammer
Otherwise just buy the parts that you feel is needed to optimize the marker to fit your needs.
Strengths:
This conversion is light, compact, unique looking, and increases performance.
Weaknesses:
Tungsten Hammer
Review:
When I first got my turtle cocker about 6-8 months ago, i was eager to take it apart to check how well built this puppy was. I was quite amazed how well this gun was put together, the anodizing looked very sharp, no pits, fading of anodizing...Just a good solid glossy black color like I asked. I was surprised on how well built the turtle valve was, it's actually higher flowing than most out in the market, AKA being most likely the only higher flowing valve out there. Another great feature about this is that you eliminate a good 2-3 inches from a stock autococker. Turtle bodies can be made into a mini body, which eliminates approximately an inch. This also elminates the need of a beaver tail and that removed another 1 1/2" - 2" from your length. There's no worrying that your back block will smash against your mask, then again that should never happen with anyone regardless what autococker you might be shooting. Along with this, is that it makes your gun overall lighter. With a lighter back block and bolt that means higher cylic rate which means higher rof. People say autocockers aren't meant to be electros, or that they can't handle the rof...they definately need to get a sense of reality and check how these things will operate. I believe the cocking rate will be around the high 30psi to low 40psi, just absolutely outstanding.
Rob is just a great overall person to talk with, I would definately recommend his work over any other competitor that might be trying to copy his style of design. These guns are proven to be built to last and to ensure that it would be working and performing at it's highest quality when you recieve it. Nothing more than you could ask from a company. Any questions that you need to ask, Rob is more than happy to answer it for you.
Conclusion:
Enough of this babbling already...conclusion is, this is the best money money can buy for autocockers when it comes to body kits. No chops with this kit, I basically took the kit and threw on mostly all stock WGP parts and it worked like a dream. I'm so confident about this, that right now I've already ordered another body from him that is being custom milled to my likings, that just how great Rob deals with his customers. He's here to satisify his customers needs. Anyways, I can't wait to sport out my next Turtle cocker, I can already tell that i'll be needing to pick up a halo-b when i put that worrblade on it.
Lightweight, decreased cocking mass, lower operating pressure, GREAT PRICE for what you get!
Weaknesses:
None, but not able to use aftermarket parts (bolts, blocks, Pins or cocking rods)
Review:
I just wanted to do a write-up on the Tutlecocker body kit I purchased from Bob at Turtlecockers.com. I currently do not have any decent pictures yet. (Mine’s nickel plated so it’s kind of hard to get a good picture of it without reflective hot spots.)
I just have to say one word: Awesome! Honestly it is so light (and I just got a standard WGP mini-cocker body done I can only imaging how light it would be with a heavily milled body) it's much lighter than my old body. I can get much tighter to the marker without the back block hitting me in the face, no more beaver tail. It looks great (to me at least) but now my Autococker might be mistaken for something else if you don’t look close. I’m still reviewing the valve but so far it appears that my efficiency has increased.
The body kit arrived in a nicely packaged box. Plenty of padding was used. All of the body parts were already assembled so basically all I had to do was to put my front block and frame on. I had bob install ANS eye's for my ANS E-Frame. Fit and finish were very nice. The bolt seals extremely well.
The Turtle Cocker body kit comes with just about everything you need. After installing it, all I need to build another Autococker is basically a grip frame, pneumatics and barrel. I mean it comes with just about everything: Body, Back Block, Pump Arm, Valve, and Hammer. The quality is excellent. Fit is perfect. The Bolt is the snuggest I’ve ever seen. Complete seal when doing the reverse blow test. Since the Back Block and Bolt is made of Delrin you have a much lighter cocking mass. This should allow increased cocking speed and lower cocking pressure.
The valve is a whole new design. Similar to the rocket valve but it doesn’t use a standard valve seat. Like the Rocket Valve the spring is on the hammer end vs. the other end like most valves. It is basically a ball bearing that seals in a cone. Take a look on the Turtlecocker.com web site for more information. I haven’t used it enough to see if it makes much of a difference but as mentioned above it seem to indicate an increase in efficiency.
Weaknesses:
None, but some people may have issues on not being able to use aftermarket parts such as bolts, blocks, Pins or cocking rods. But hey this is a custom marker. I bet you can’t get spare parts for a Jessie James motorcycle at the local motorcycle shop (other than maybe the tires, air filter and spark plugs) or parts for a Lamborghini at your local auto parts store.
Conclusion:
Awesome! Its is absolutely wicked with my ANS E-Frame! It is also much lighter and I can get much tighter without having a back block hit my mask.
Would I recommend one to someone? Yes I would. Turtle aka Robert aka Bob Long (no not the ironmen bob long he plays for the oh-no’s) has been great in responding to any questions, allowing any changes wanted for the body I got from him.
I have wanted to get a unique body for my Autococker and I was lucky enough to stumble across one of Bob's threads. After reading and looking at the pictures I knew I had to have one.
If you want a very radical looking cocker or looking to tune your electro-cocker even more this is the way to go!
